Nice work Tim Newcomb and Todd Schultz! M101-4 and M101-5

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Posted By: <b>Jimi</b><p>Hey guys,<br /><br />Great work on the M101-4 and M101-5 write up in Old Cardboard. I just got it in the mail today and read your article first. The pictures were helpful, especially regarding the different backs. I have always enjoyed that set though knew very little on it. Too bad I can't afford to work on that set though!<br /><br />Hey, Tim, e-mail me when you get a chance. Let's catch up!<br /><br /><br />Jimi

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Posted By: <b>Andy Baran</b><p>When I was still collecting baseball cards, the M101-4/5 were among my favorite sets. The article was very informative. There was one topic that was not covered that I hoped would be discussed. Does anyone have a theory as to why certain cards (Ruth, Baker, etc.) have grayed out backgrounds rather than real backgrounds?

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Posted By: <b>leon</b><p>I read the article last night. It was very informative and well done....As maybe one of the first M101-4/5 back collectors out here I really enjoyed the in depth discussion on them too. Way to go guys!!

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Posted By: <b>Scot Reader</b><p><br />I have been looking forward to this article. Thanks Tim and Todd!

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Posted By: <b>Paul</b><p>It is an outstanding article. I was a little surprised by the estimate that there are only about 70-100 "sets" of M101-4, including all backs combined (and even less of M101-5). Does that mean that each player in M101-4, taking all backs into account, is about as scarce as a T206 Wagner?<br /><br />That actually reminds me of a second questions. Why did Burdick have such a hard time documenting and ultimately acquiring a T206 Wagner? If I remember correctly, for many years he was not convinced of its existence. And he acquired the card only a few years before he donated his collection. But he had so many other cards that were so much rarer than the Wagner. Why could he find these, but not Wagner?

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Posted By: <b>Dave Hornish</b><p>Yes, a great article; I really liked the back gallery. Well done lads!

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Posted By: <b>Tim Newcomb</b><p>For your kind words about the article. It was fun to do. <br /><br />Paul's question is a good one -- we went back and forth about whether to include numbers of that kind-- (like are there 25-50 Green/Joyce cards known total, etc.) In the end this is the only such estimate we went with, knowing it would be questioned (by us too). <br /><br />But on the other hand, there are tons of cards a lot scarcer than the T206 Wagner-- E cards, T cards, etc. etc. That card is only "rare" in its specific context of T206. Its value is the product of a perfect storm-- a very scarce card in the most widely-collected set, an A-list HOFer, the anti-smoking Wagner lore, and now decades of hobby legend behind it. <br /><br />One other thought: a while back when I polled M101-4/5 population among this group, we got a total in the low thousands-- the equivalent of 6-8 sets at most. I think mine accounted for 25-30% of that total (I had about 300 cards in the two sets at the time). From that surprisingly low number owned by a group of avid collectors, I guess I extrapolated that there were not a huge number of sets out there-- dozens more, certainly, but not hundreds and hundreds.<br /><br />Anyway, we can continue to discuss. I got a note this morning from a man who gave me a lead on where the Mall Theatre was located! I'm about to look into it.<br /><br />Tim

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Posted By: <b>Brian Weisner</b><p><br /> Hi Tim and Todd,<br /> The article was fantastic... I've read it twice and I'm sure I will have to go through it another 10-15 times before it all sinks in. I only collect certain players from the issues, but I will probably start a back collection soon. Be well Brian<br /><br />