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06-24-2008, 05:17 AM
Posted By: <b>Marty Ogelvie</b><p><P>Were these cards from a card game??</P><P>I found a Wagner on eBay <A href="http://tinyurl.com/5gwnmq" target=_blank><STRONG>http://tinyurl.com/5gwnmq</STRONG></A>&nbsp;and noticed it had a high grade but that 2 more were graded even higher (9)!&nbsp; It seems to me that if these cards were part of a card game, they would be worse for wear but to have this many graded so HIGH makes me wonder what these cards are made of?&nbsp; Acylic?</P><br><br>martyOgelvie<br />nyyankeecards.com

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06-24-2008, 05:44 AM
Posted By: <b>Steve</b><p>The cards came in a box with a board and instruction sheet. Would be nice to find one complete!

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06-24-2008, 06:17 AM
Posted By: <b>Marty Ogelvie</b><p>I thought they had to but was not sure and I hadn't seen anything to confirm. Are the cards made from a thicker card stock?? <br><br>martyOgelvie<br />nyyankeecards.com

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06-24-2008, 06:26 AM
Posted By: <b>leon</b><p>They are made out of stock that is similar, in thickness, to modern playing cards...maybe a little thicker. The reason there are so many high grade ones is that there have been several new "decks" of them found. Complete games in new condition....There was a set on ebay a few years ago that a board member bought. They came back 8's, 9's and many 10's.....He got them slabbed, registered on PSA Registry and sold them for quite a bit in auction....These cards are the most prevelent to find in high grade of any other pre war vintage cards....and also the most affordable, relatively speaking (obviously).

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06-24-2008, 06:32 AM
Posted By: <b>Marty Ogelvie</b><p><P>7K is a years worth of GAS!!!&nbsp; I guess I could ride my bike for a year in order to AFFORD this Wagner!! <img src="/images/happy.gif" height=14 width=14></P><br><br>martyOgelvie<br />nyyankeecards.com

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06-24-2008, 06:38 AM
Posted By: <b>leon</b><p>I don't care for some of the hype with sellers either. They say it's one of Wagner's rarest cards with only 17 graded.....Pesonally, from experience, I would say this is one of his more common pre-war Wagner cards....

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06-24-2008, 06:50 AM
Posted By: <b>Matt</b><p>IMO the fact that the corners are round also helps a lot with the grades on these issues.

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06-24-2008, 06:55 AM
Posted By: <b>Marty Ogelvie</b><p><P>Leon, the ability of a great salesman is to hype something without it sounding like HYPE.&nbsp; Which is exactly why I am no salesman.&nbsp; I have just as hard a time dishing out BS as I do swallowing it!</P><P>Matt, Yes.. that makes sense now that I think of it.. round corners would definately ease the grading. </P><br><br>martyOgelvie<br />nyyankeecards.com

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06-24-2008, 08:03 AM
Posted By: <b>leon</b><p>As a career salesperson I agree with you. I don't like to be "sold" and I can smell it 2 miles away. Give me the facts and let me make my own mind up. Giving misleading facts, as this seller does (imo) only drives me away. <br /><br />Your blurb about hype reminds me of the definition of the word "tact" that I have heard before.<br /><br />"Tact" is calling some one an a**hole and having them thank you for it.....

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06-24-2008, 12:19 PM
Posted By: <b>leon</b><p>I got an email from an interested party about this particular card up for auction. Though in my brain housing group I wouldn't really consider it scarce or rare, the facts seem to point out a different scenario. I never mind saying I made a mistake...so on this one, with the sets as listed below, I made a mistake....the Fan Craze could in fact be considered scarce....Here are PSA pop's I was given for Wags in these sets.<br /><br />1909 Cogans-24<br />1909 E90-1 Amer. Crml -23<br />1909 Dockman Batting-27<br />1909 Dockman Throwing-33<br />1909 E95 Phila Crml-63<br />1909 T206 -26<br />1910 E98 Set of 30--23<br />1910 E90-2 Amer. Crml-34<br />1910 Standard Crml-49<br />1910 Tip Top Bread-18<br />1911 E94 Close Candy-19<br />1911 M116 Sporting Life Pastel-42<br />1911 M116 Sporting Life Blue-29<br />1913 National Game-41<br />1913 Tom Barker Game-26<br />1914 Cracker Jack-21<br />1914 Polo Grounds Game-43<br />1915 Cracker Jack-43<br />1940 Playball-107<br />1949 Leaf-270<br /><br /><br />kind regards<br /><br /><br /><br />

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06-24-2008, 12:38 PM
Posted By: <b>barrysloate</b><p>Leon- I think NL Fan Craze is a little harder than the AL set, but that would not be the Wagner I would guess had the lowest pop.

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06-24-2008, 02:57 PM
Posted By: <b>fkw</b><p>Hi Marty, <br /><br />These 2 books are a must have...... they will answer 95% of the questions you may have about PreWar cards sets (Net54 can answer the last 5% <img src="/images/happy.gif" height=14 width=14> )<br /><br />"2008 SCD Standard Catalog of Baseball Cards" (2009 will come out sometime in Sept. or so)<br /><br />"The Encyclopedia of Baseball Cards" by Lew Lipset<br /><br />Happy collecting <img src="/images/happy.gif" height=14 width=14>

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06-24-2008, 04:01 PM
Posted By: <b>Marty Ogelvie</b><p>Thanks for all the responses.. <br><br>martyOgelvie<br />nyyankeecards.com