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06-11-2008, 09:17 AM

Posted By: Jason DuncanAs alot of you know, lately with new ebay feedback policies they have really screwed some sellers. As a result of some malicious buying lately, and some unwarranted negs lately, I was suspended from ebay until further notice. I have spoken with them about the situation and caught them in a bag of many conradictions. I do not have time this morning to go into the details, but will post my latest issue. I recently purchased an item from fellow member David Rosenberg on ebay 1888 N29 Queckenberger GAI 3. I promptly paid David a refund from an item he won from me that I accidentally sent to PSA from a previous auction. Anyway I included payment for the Queckenberger on 5/27.08 Check #5535 and sent it returned receipt. He signed and sent it back to me acknowledging payment. Quite a bit later on I recieve the card. I am sad to report today that David filed a non- paying bidder strike against me on ebay to get his fees back even though I paid for the item. It saddens me that he did this knowing that while suspended I have no recourse. I cannot even properly dispute the item until I am back on. He knew this and took advantage. I would reccommend that David (collect_abit) Make it right and remove the strike. I reccommend all buyers beware of this type of malice. In the meantime you may see alot of my nice stuff enter the B/S/T threads here soon. Jason

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06-11-2008, 09:56 AM

Posted By: KyleHe gave me a real hard time once... really made me feel crappy all while he was being selfish. He ended up not getting what he wanted, but told me he'd refuse to do business with me ever again (this coming after I had sent him a lot of freebies). He later won the disputed card on eBay for much less than his original offer, paid me, said something stern and that was that.

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06-11-2008, 10:47 AM

Posted By: BobWhat I hate about ebay now is that when you sell something and the buyer just flat out lies to you about payment, it takes forever before you get credited for FVF and can relist it. Meanwhile, the buyer goes his merry way without even being able to get a negative feedback when he stiffs you. It's a stupid new policy...

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06-11-2008, 12:18 PM

Posted By: DarrenI guess I'm misunderstanding something here. I understand that negative feedback does not disqualify a seller/buyer, etc. Disqualification from Ebay is due to repeated nonpayments for a buyer or nondelivery of items for a seller--regardless of feedback. It seems to me that it would be easy to prove either and thus nullify any misguided claims. Proof of payment is easy, as is proof of delivery(with proper postal services). In my experience Ebay has provided me (albeit as a buyer) proper notification and opportunity to defend my stance. I do see how both sides could take advantage of the system for personal issues though (but that would be dishonest--and we know card people are not dishonest <img src="/images/sad.gif" height=14 width=14> ).

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06-11-2008, 01:10 PM

Posted By: Jason DuncanDarren- My suspension was due to some feedback issues that DIDNT violate any ebay rules. They solely did this based on opinion and admitted it to me on the phone. They are taking sides 100% with buyers regardless of any situation. I am not in a real hurry to get back on. My issue had nothing to do with non payment or non delivery of any item. Jason

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06-11-2008, 01:24 PM

Posted By: B Dcall me! I have some info for you! B <img src="/images/happy.gif" height=14 width=14> BcD <img src="/images/happy.gif" height=14 width=14>

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06-11-2008, 01:27 PM

Posted By: BobThe only problems I have ever had on ebay (not very many) as a seller concerned non-card transactions. Card buyers have always been great.

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06-11-2008, 01:49 PM

Posted By: SteveFor some reason I don't have these same problems, I wonder why? Steve

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06-11-2008, 01:50 PM

Posted By: MattSteve - what's your ebay ID?

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06-11-2008, 01:51 PM

Posted By: DarrenWell, then Jason that just plain sucks. I wish you luck in resolving this issue.

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06-11-2008, 05:21 PM

Posted By: Craig WHey Jason, were you vintage*investments? If so, I bought a T202 from you in April and it was a smooth transaction with no regrets. Sorry you're getting screwed by eBay's system. My wife and I stopped selling on FeeBay when they announced their new system. We decided it was a lot easier to sell some stuff in a good 'ol garage sale (we made over $400 saturday) and I've sold a few cards the past couple days on the B/S/T. So there's certainly other options you can explore. Perhaps if enough sellers leave eBay for greener pastures, eBay might get a hint and try to fix the mess they've made. Hang in there, I'm pullin' for ya! Craig

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06-11-2008, 09:53 PM

Posted By: JasonCraig- Thanks for the plug. Jason

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06-12-2008, 01:37 AM

Posted By: DRI have flawless feedback as a seller and take my reputation very seriously. My 3,500+ positive eBay feedbacks versus 6 or 7 problem seller transactions in 10 years on eBay should be enough proof for reasonably minded people. All of the negatives I received were as a buyer and left in retaliation for leaving negatives. You have all been there! I consider it a service to the collecting community and do not take kindly to non selling sellers or opportunistic shippers. Jason did not deliver an eBay win, communicates terribly, and then purchased a cheap item from me to avoid the negative feedback I was going to leave. He did the exact same to others. I made some posts about Jason and he begged me to remove them and take things private so I did but when the tables are turned he takes things public. Until a check clears from a NARU eBay member with problem after problem, yes, I do not consider the transaction finalized and delivered the card immediately with Signature Confirmation. eBay is not going to help me if the member is banned. I am not going to be out eBay fees and receive negative feedback too for no reason. I was not made whole on the first purchase (my postage and time). I do not expect to recoup time but if you screw up, making someone whole is smart business. Prompt refund from Jason...close to 2 months later only after posting on Net54, 2 phone calls and about 15 emails? You are a bad (business)person and the friends you keep to support your lame cause in this thread are laughable and speaks volumes. I do not feel the need to respond to the other well known s-disturbers and disliked hobby outcasts that have way more negative feedbacks in much fewer transactions. As a follow up, since this post was bumped, Jason's has been kicked off eBay (NARU - no longer a registered member) and I have not reveived any other negatives and as buyer or seller as of 12/04/08. Once again, as a seller, I have 100% positive feedback! This is the only thing I can control. As a buyer, out of 10,000+ purchases, I have had 20 or so issues with sellers. 1 our of 500 is not bad. If anyone else feels you have been taken advantage by me, I am happy to make things right. I am not hiding and take my reputation seriously. Thank you.

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06-12-2008, 04:03 AM

Posted By: Matt E.I have done several very large transactions with David and he was nothing but a gentleman. Matt

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06-12-2008, 07:14 AM

Posted By: JasonDavid- You are a complete LIAR! When I am back up I will be appealing the transaction with ebay and we will see what happens! You are trying to manipulate the system and take advantage of me while I can do nothing about it. David you are the little weasel that everyone else has been confirming. Everything in your story is false. Quit trying to take the heat off of yourself and justifying your stupid actions. You will reap what you sow before long. Jason

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06-12-2008, 07:25 AM

Posted By: barrysloateYou two guys are fighting on three different threads at the same time, and at this moment they are the top three threads on the home page. That is unacceptable. You need to take this long running argument offline.

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06-12-2008, 07:41 AM

Posted By: bigfish387tLeon, I think you need to add a special section for grievances. They seem to be a popular topic these days. I have had great transactions with both people in this thread. Maybe they can solve this offline?

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06-12-2008, 07:44 AM

Posted By: Rob D.Solve it offline? Like two mature adults? Without calling each other names on an Internet message board? What a concept.

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06-12-2008, 07:53 AM

Posted By: leonI won't stop people from bickering on the board.....That's not my idea of good moderating...at the same time I won't let the board be consumed with it.....Hope everyone understands my position.....best regards and happy collecting.. edited to add.....I don't like the bickering and wish it would be taken off line too....but as long as names are by posts, and it's only 1 thread, then so be it...

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06-12-2008, 07:54 AM

Posted By: KyleThe only defense I think I need is to state exactly what happened. The initial selling price between DR and my first deal was his initial offer. I didn't counter, I accepted, and shipped fully insured for free. When he expressed interest in owning more of the cards, I acquired another set solely for the purpose of giving him the lower values cards in the set for free. When the other cards in the set graded strong, he wanted them to boost his set registry. We worked a trade where I would trade him higher grade cards for his lower grade plus cash. When I acquired the best card in the set as a PSA 9, he wanted it for his registry. I thought he initial offer was too low, and rejected it. DR got mad, we didn't complete a deal offline, and he ended up winning the card for less than his initial offer. If you're going to blame me for you calling yourself uneducated, that's BS. EDITED to add that up until the last card DR wanted from me, he was a pleasure to deal with. When he felt like I was trying hose him and not give him a deal, he completely changed face. Otherwise, I enjoyed our deals.

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06-12-2008, 12:59 PM

Posted By: AA NewcombeLong Time Lurker: My 2 cents I will never buy from any of the parties who have decided to air their (childish) dirty laundry on this forum. You gentlemen are the reason our wonderful hobby is looked at with so much disdain by non-collectors. Tell me you all couldn't have picked up a phone and worked this out? Instead we have 200+ posts of childish tantrum gibberish. NO ONE CARES. So many incredible hobbyists that frequent this board, who give their knowledge, time, research....and its drowned out by 2-3 6-year olds who feel the need to subject us with their petty rantings. Gimmie your cards. Stop collecting. For Reals.

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06-12-2008, 01:08 PM

Posted By: leonIf you are a long time lurker you know your post is against the rules. Be careful please or put your full name and contact info out here...but you already know that...I am not saying I agree or disagree with you (I mostly agree though)....just trying to keep the board "real"......thanks much

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06-12-2008, 01:31 PM

Posted By: Anthony S.Every time I glance at the title of this thread the calypsonian theme song from those omnipresent "Girls Gone Wild" commercials on late night TV starts playing in my head. Pavlov's Anthony.

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06-12-2008, 10:50 PM

Posted By: StephenTo all members who have been suspended...I to was suspended on eBay and it took over 6 weeks to get my account reinstated. I deal mostly with designer clothing and have done over 3000 positive transactions. If you've been limited I suggest calling everyday and trying to get it resolved asap as eBay is horrible with customer service in my situation they told me to: fix my paypal disputes, once finished they told me to fix my sister's account since we have the same address, once finished - then fix her paypal disputes, then send faxes of receipts then they wanted invoices of specific items. Every time I accomplished something I would email them and they would reply in 3 days telling me to do something else. Ebay is horrible with their new policies and customer service and I do not think they will change their ways simply because they don't have to. It would be nice for the seller not to be treated like a crook just 1 out of 10 times.

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06-12-2008, 11:47 PM

Posted By: davidcycleback"If you want to hear about not getting respect, every time I enter the bank the guard undoes the snap on his holster." -- Jim Ignatowski

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06-13-2008, 01:34 AM

Posted By: B D shoeless-joejackson ( 10023) sportscardinvestor ( 10360) big_steves_collectibles ( 869 ) callofduty2005 ( 1030) barnettscards ( 4112) thetoppsvault ( 18740) BcD <img src="/images/happy.gif" height=14 width=14>

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06-13-2008, 09:45 AM

Posted By: Bottom of the NinthLOLOLOL Brian. Must be the answer to the question,Please name the ebay users who have left David a negative under his buying id. G

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06-13-2008, 11:00 AM

Posted By: B D "I have flawless feedback as a seller and take my reputation seriously." <a href="http://feedback.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewFeedback2&userid=iofferings&ftab=AllFeedback&myworld=true" target="_new" rel="nofollow">http://feedback.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewFeedback2&userid=iofferings&ftab=AllFeedback&myworld=true</a> Maybe Jason could post the information from the folks that contacted him about this seller "iofferings" for clarity~ watch it Greg! The FBI,women's defense league,JULIE and Alan Dershowitz and various other whine and complain group leaders may contact you-Not! BcD <img src="/images/happy.gif" height=14 width=14>

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06-13-2008, 11:05 AM

Posted By: MattThat quote may not be so famous - he did qualify and say his seller FB was perfect - I believe his negs are as a buyer.

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06-13-2008, 12:41 PM

Posted By: Bottom of the NinthGood thing he qualified his feedback as a seller being flawless. Appears to be a complicated buyer at 98.3% in the last 12 months. Now with sellers not having the ability to leave negatives this guy might be on the top of the list to avoid. Greg

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06-13-2008, 03:33 PM

Posted By: JasonBrian and Greg- I am going to start a separate thread about just what David did to avoid neg from me. COmplete fraud and nothing I can do. Jason

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06-13-2008, 03:42 PM

Posted By: JasonMy experience on eBay recently has been somewhat of a nightmare, but my latest deal takes the cake. WHile I was very temporarily suspended Ebay dealer David Rosenberg AKA iofferings, AKA collect_abit took advantage of me and the ebay system to file a non paying bidder strike against me knowing I COULD NOT RESPOND. As a result ebay has removed my ability to leave appropriate feedback even though he lied and frauded the system. After speaking to several others I found out that this is common practice for David. BUYER BEWARE! By the way...I sent payment with delivery confirmation which he signed and returned and I had my winning item a week before he turned me in for non paying strike. Talking to others i know this is common practice to buyer BEWARE. Jason

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06-13-2008, 05:30 PM

Posted By: Jason THE WORST EBAYER I HAVE EVER DELT WITH! BEWARE OF THIS GUY! THEIF AND A LIAR! Seller: shoeless-joejackson ( 7100) May-03-08 15:58 Reply by iofferings (May-03-08 16:16): I PAID IN FULL, SELLER NEVER SHIPPED, LOOK IN THE MIRROR FOR THE LIAR AND THIEF -- (#120242463820) -- View Item Detailed item information is not available for the following items because the Feedback is over 90 days old. Sent threatening and extortive emails, reported to EBAY Sellers Beware Seller: big_steves_collectibles ( 743) Oct-01-07 20:05 Reply by iofferings (Oct-01-07 20:16): THIS SELLER HAS NO CLUE WHAT HE IS DOING! THIS ITEM WAS WON BUT REFUSED TO SELL! Follow-up by big_steves_collectibles (Oct-01-07 20:25): Reported all of this person's emails to EBAY security department sellers beware. -- (#200153152244) -- Sent threatening and extortive emails, reported to EBAY Sellers Beware Seller: big_steves_collectibles ( 743) Oct-01-07 20:04 Reply by iofferings (Oct-01-07 20:15): THIS SELLER HAS NO CLUE WHAT HE IS DOING! THIS ITEM WAS WON BUT REFUSED TO SELL! Follow-up by big_steves_collectibles (Oct-01-07 20:24): Reported all of this person's emails to EBAY security department sellers beware. -- (#200153150057) -- Sent threatening and extortive emails, reported to EBAY Sellers Beware Seller: big_steves_collectibles ( 743) Oct-01-07 20:03 Reply by iofferings (Oct-01-07 20:15): DON'T LIST ITEMS YOU CAN NOT DELIVER TO THE WINNING BIDDER! SIMPLY AMAZING!!! Follow-up by big_steves_collectibles (Oct-01-07 20:24): Reported all of this person's emails to EBAY security department sellers beware. -- (#200153149129) -- Sent threatening and extortive emails, reported to EBAY Sellers Beware Seller: big_steves_collectibles ( 743) Oct-01-07 20:02 Reply by iofferings (Oct-01-07 20:13): STILL OWES ME MONEY (PARTIAL REFUND) SO CONSIDER THIS FRAUD! EBAY 101 NEEDED! Follow-up by big_steves_collectibles (Oct-01-07 20:24): Reported all of this person's emails to EBAY security department sellers beware. -- (#200153151051) -- Sent threatening and extortive emails, reported to EBAY Sellers Beware Seller: big_steves_collectibles ( 743) Oct-01-07 20:01 Reply by iofferings (Oct-01-07 20:12): AFTER 10 DAYS, I WILL BE PERMITTED TO FILE CLAIM AGAINST SELLER FOR NON DELIVERY Follow-up by big_steves_collectibles (Oct-01-07 20:24): Reported all of this person's emails to EBAY security department sellers beware. -- (#200153153456) -- Sent threatening and extortive emails, reported to EBAY Sellers Beware Seller: big_steves_collectibles ( 743) Oct-01-07 20:00 Reply by iofferings (Oct-01-07 20:11): AFTER 10 DAYS, I WILL BE PERMITTED TO FILE CLAIM AGAINST SELLER FOR NON DELIVERY Follow-up by big_steves_collectibles (Oct-01-07 20:24): Reported all of this person's emails to EBAY security department sellers beware. -- (#200153117596) -- Sent threatening and extortive emails, reported to EBAY Seller: big_steves_collectibles ( 743) Oct-01-07 19:57 Reply by iofferings (Oct-01-07 20:11): I NEVER MADE THREATS! SELLER SOLD ME ITEMS AND COULD NOT DELIVER OR COMMUNICATE! Follow-up by big_steves_collectibles (Oct-01-07 20:23): Reported all of this person's emails to EBAY security department sellers beware. -- (#200153149604) -- Will cancel all future bids, sent threatening emails, immature, slanderous Seller: big_steves_collectibles ( 743) Oct-01-07 16:31 Reply by iofferings (Oct-01-07 19:54): I NEVER MADE THREATS! SELLER SOLD ME ITEMS AND COULD NOT DELIVER OR COMMUNICATE! Follow-up by big_steves_collectibles (Oct-01-07 20:10): Reported all of this person's emails to EBAY security department. -- (#200153117252) -- MR CRYBABY LEARN TO READ. IF YOUR NOT GONNA PAY ADV. SHIPPING, DONT BID Seller: barnettscards ( 2788) Jul-23-06 17:17 Reply by iofferings (Jul-23-06 19:20): Exchanged 2 emails 2 months ago. My advice AVOID barnettscards monkey business! -- (#8810868670) -- I TOLD MR CRYBABY DONT PAY AFTER COUNTLESS EMAILS BEGGING ME TO REDUCE SHIPPING Seller: barnettscards ( 2788) Jul-23-06 17:17 Reply by iofferings (Jul-23-06 19:16): It was bound to happen sooner or later. A non responsive seller in back woods! -- (#8810866633) -- REFUSED TO PAY ADVERTISED SHIPPING CHARGES EVEN AFTER DISCOUNTED 30 % Seller: barnettscards ( 2788) Jul-21-06 07:50 Reply by iofferings (Jul-21-06 08:49): I did NOT refuse! ''Just keep your money and I'll relist the items again'' Hmmm -- (#8810866094) -- ONE PROBLEM AFTER ANOTHER Seller: thetoppsvault ( 6001) Sep-17-03 13:55 Reply by iofferings (Sep-17-03 16:07): LOOK @ EBAY FEEDBACK FOR: SUBSIDIARY >TERRIBLE >ME - 2,000 W/ NO POBLEMS ANY ?s -- (#3230575547) -- FAILED TO HONOR BID. POOR COMMUNICATION. OUR BIGGEST PROBLEM BUYER TO DATE. Seller: thetoppsvault ( 6001) Aug-29-03 12:19 Reply by iofferings (Aug-29-03 12:37): Total Lie! Check Your Paypal Records! You refused my $! LAWSUIT SOON! -- (#3230415394) -- FAILED TO PAY AFTER REPEATED EMAILS BE CAREFUL WITH THIS NOVICE EBAYER. Seller: thetoppsvault ( 6001) Aug-28-03 09:48 Reply by iofferings (Aug-28-03 10:47): Do I look like a non-paying member? You refunded payment and banned me! Unreal. Follow-up by thetoppsvault (Aug-28-03 10:54): THIS DEADBEAT IS NOT TRUTHFUL. WE HAVE NO REASON TO LIE. BEWARE!!! -- (#2181270563) -- Buyer forgot to take meds. Very fragile and unstable. Seller: callofduty2005 ( 799) Nov-18-06 17:06 Reply by iofferings (Nov-18-06 18:36): you give eBay + industry a black eye! No Paypal or returns, lies, fuzzy scans.. Follow-up by callofduty2005 (Nov-18-06 18:51): And you are a disgrace to the human condition. What a creep. -- (#280043806044) -- Unhappy with 3rd party graded cards and blames me. Buyer's remorse. Seller: callofduty2005 ( 799) Nov-18-06 12:23 Reply by iofferings (Nov-18-06 12:38): NO THIS CARDS RAW HAS PAPER LOSS LOW RESOLUTION SCAN 4 FRAUD EMAIL 4 IMAGE LINK Follow-up by callofduty2005 (Nov-18-06 13:13): Professional complainer. Low res scan for your low IQ. -- (#280044202355) -- Resorted to extortion/blackmail. Total maniac. Stay clear of this nut job. Seller: callofduty2005 ( 799) Nov-18-06 12:22 Reply by iofferings (Nov-18-06 12:36): I ASKED FOR A FULL REFUND OR $100. HOW IS A REFUND BLACKMAIL? FRAUD CLAIM FILED Follow-up by callofduty2005 (Nov-18-06 13:14): Take it up with PSA and make them miserable. I feel badly for your family. -- (#280043805283) -- I TOLD MR CRYBABY DONT PAY AFTER COUNTLESS EMAILS BEGGING ME TO REDUCE SHIPPING Seller: barnettscards ( 2788) Jul-23-06 17:17 Reply by iofferings (Jul-23-06 19:16): It was bound to happen sooner or later. A non responsive seller in back woods! -- (#8810866633) -- REFUSED TO PAY ADVERTISED SHIPPING CHARGES EVEN AFTER DISCOUNTED 30 % Seller: barnettscards ( 2788) Jul-21-06 07:50 Reply by iofferings (Jul-21-06 08:49): I did NOT refuse! ''Just keep your money and I'll relist the items again'' Hmmm -- (#8810866094) -- ONE PROBLEM AFTER ANOTHER Seller: thetoppsvault ( 6001) Sep-17-03 13:55 Reply by iofferings (Sep-17-03 16:07): LOOK @ EBAY FEEDBACK FOR: SUBSIDIARY >TERRIBLE >ME - 2,000 W/ NO POBLEMS ANY ?s -- (#3230575547) -- FAILED TO HONOR BID. POOR COMMUNICATION. OUR BIGGEST PROBLEM BUYER TO DATE. Seller: thetoppsvault ( 6001) Aug-29-03 12:19 Reply by iofferings (Aug-29-03 12:37): Total Lie! Check Your Paypal Records! You refused my $! LAWSUIT SOON! -- (#3230415394) -- FAILED TO PAY AFTER REPEATED EMAILS BE CAREFUL WITH THIS NOVICE EBAYER. Seller: thetoppsvault ( 6001) Aug-28-03 09:48 Reply by iofferings (Aug-28-03 10:47): Do I look like a non-paying member? You refunded payment and banned me! Unreal. Follow-up by thetoppsvault (Aug-28-03 10:54): THIS DEADBEAT IS NOT TRUTHFUL. WE HAVE NO REASON TO LIE. BEWARE

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06-13-2008, 05:54 PM

Posted By: Dan BrettaHow long are we going to be subjected to your ebay woes? We get it!

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06-13-2008, 06:17 PM

Posted By: barrysloateThis is the longest running feud since the Hatfields and the McCoys. Let's put a sock in it.

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06-13-2008, 06:21 PM

Posted By: leonI would prefer them not to argue on the board but it is hobby related....If I/we moderators ask them to keep it in one thread, and they keep it semi-civil, do ya'll think it should be stopped by a moderator? I don't, but always listen to the collective wisdom of the board....besides I barely have a choice <img src="/images/happy.gif" height=14 width=14>....

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06-13-2008, 06:47 PM

Posted By: Rob D.I suggest letting Jason continue to bury himself. If he's not able to realize that he's beating a dead horse and putting himself in a bad light, so be it.

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06-13-2008, 06:57 PM

Posted By: Bottom of the NinthI think this is pertinent and if people don't want to read it there are plenty of other threads for them to read or reread. What happened to Jason can happen to any of us who sell on eBay under their new polices. How often do people on this forum bring up unethical eBay sellers? Why should bringing up unethical buyers be prohibited or result in a locked thread? Greg

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06-13-2008, 06:59 PM

Posted By: TimAs ridiculous as this has gotten, I agree with Leon that it shouldn’t be stopped by the board. If you’re tired of it, just quit opening the thread.

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06-13-2008, 07:20 PM

Posted By: SteveNone of this surprises me. What goes around comes around. Steve

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06-13-2008, 07:50 PM

Posted By: jeffdrumthe makings of a great reality show trainwreck here.

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06-13-2008, 07:50 PM

Posted By: paulstrattonIt's like an accident on the freeway, I just can't not look. Some of those feedbacks are hilarious, "Low res scan for your low IQ.". Classic.

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06-13-2008, 08:32 PM

Posted By: JasonRob, Dan, Barry I understand what you mean, but in this case I have been completely ripped off and David has really went too far with manipulating ebay. I have refunded him and paid him for cards he left a negative for and also filed a non paying strike against me. I am sick of the buyer abuse and that is why I am done with ebay. Look for my stuff in the future in the B/S/T. If you do not like things being brought up just skip the thread. It is important for me to air this out where good collectors frequent. I have been a member here for many years and have not caused any problems or harm to anyone on here. I think I should be given the benefit here. As far as Steve (Winpitcher) he likes to follow me around like a pesky mesquito and try to be annoying. I just ignore him and focus on the issues at hand. Let me say I really enjoy the hobby, but it may look like my selling days are over considering I build my collection on buying and selling mostly online. I call eBay today and they will not do anything or reverse anything EVEN if I am right and he is wrong. All they will do is investigate and possibly suspend him. They will not reove his neg or let me leave one. Jason

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06-13-2008, 09:06 PM

Posted By: Rawn HillHow about if we rename this.......Collectors and Hobbiest Really sick of Juvenile fights carried out on a public forum. I only spend about five thousand a year on this hobby, a little fish in a sea of whales, but damn it, I'm getting tired of all of these disputes that should be handled as gentleman and ladies. Just my 2 cents worth from a little fish. Rawn

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06-13-2008, 09:25 PM

Posted By: Eric BQuestion! I have only perused this thread, but if DR manipulated the system to get back the sellers fees, what's the big deal? I know Ebay owes me lots of fees for when I accidently submit something twice and delete one immediately, but get charged twice. They say I can get a refund, but I haven't been able to figure out how to get my money back.

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06-13-2008, 10:54 PM

Posted By: joshI appreciate you letting people know about the buyers who conduct themselves with this kind of behavior. It will save me a lot of grief knowing this. Thanks for letting me know! Something needs to be done about them!

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06-13-2008, 11:18 PM

Posted By: Kenny ColeHow about we have a cock-fighting, horse-racing, eBay cheating, bad-seller, bad-buyer, repubs are good, dems are bad, dems are good, repubs are bad, thread all rolled into one? Everyone can spew all their venom in that one thread, discuss all of their beliefs, have them dissected by others who don't share them, call each other names, and generally get all of that out of their system. Then, the remainder of the threads can be about crazy stuff like cards. We could have one long, moving train-wreck thread instead of the many we have had recently. Just a thought. Kenny Cole

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06-13-2008, 11:53 PM

Posted By: SteveAs far as Steve (Winpitcher) he likes to follow me around like a pesky mesquito and try to be annoying. I just ignore him and focus on the issues at hand. Let me say I really enjoy the hobby, but it may look like my selling days are over considering I build my collection on buying and selling mostly online. I call eBay today and they will not do anything or reverse anything EVEN if I am right and he is wrong. All they will do is investigate and possibly suspend him. They will not reove his neg or let me leave one. So much for ignoring me, and, your above statement is a bold face LIE. I have NOTHING to do with you and Ebay. Your last paragraph implies that I do. Please retract. And FWIW I too have been a member here for a few years and do not follow you around so please don't flatter yourself. The bottom line is what has happened to you on ebay is EXACTLY like what you have done to other people. YES you too have manipulated the feedback system! Or did you forget the time you had Ted give you a positive only to Neg him! And if my memory serves me didn't you just this past month buy from the very same people here in a lame attempt at having the ability to neg them? Yes Mr. Duncan what comes around goes around. Steve edited typo

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06-14-2008, 05:59 AM

Posted By: JasonPoint made!

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06-14-2008, 07:28 AM

Posted By: Aaron Patton Y-A-W-N.

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06-14-2008, 07:36 AM

Posted By: Ted Shermaniofferings...yet another to add to my BBL.. .....and I DONT mean Big Beautiful Latina

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06-14-2008, 07:41 AM

Posted By: SteveI am still waiting for that retraction. Your paragraph that I quoted implies I had something to do with your ebay problems. No wonder you have problems your communication skills suck. Steve

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06-14-2008, 02:33 PM

Posted By: Ted ShermanI consider myself to be very reasonable, I have probably had three bad transactions on ebay all as a buyer. One of these was with Jason, and it gives me a small sense of satisfaction to see I am not the only one. His story was that "He sold my card for MORE money off ebay". Now it seems his "hired help" probably had it re-graded by PSA. Anyways it was the 1915 Cj Hippo Vaughn last card in set, and he PROMISED ME if I left him a positive, he would send me a FREE t205 hat I needed for my set. I folded like a sheet, and left him a positive...his reponse..NO t205 and he NEGGED me! I couldn't be happier! WHEEEEE

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06-14-2008, 03:13 PM

Posted By: george "bulldog" adamsthis kid got what he deserved and he has nobody to blame but himself for what happened. bulldog

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06-14-2008, 03:37 PM

Posted By: JasonTed- Complete lie. Half truth story as usual. Steve- Still a noob that does not deserve recongnition because you are a troublemaker. Bulldog- Who the heck are you? You must be Steve's tag-along pet. Keep it up boys! Jason

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06-14-2008, 03:53 PM

Posted By: SteveJason Listen up, I am going to give you some advice. The more you call people names the more you look foolish, I have been collecting for more then 40 years a 'noob' I am not. I was brought into this mess by you addressing me by name. You wrote something that implied that I had an ebay transaction with you that went awry. That is a bold face lie. If you do not want me to go back and forth with you then don't bring me into your nonsense. I made a generic statement above and you took it as a swipe against you. For all you know I was referring to the person that you posted all the feedback about. A smarter person would have took it that way. As for Bulldog I have no idea who he is. As for Ted his truth is 100% right on. Keep ignoring me. Steve

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06-14-2008, 04:06 PM

Posted By: Dan BrettaSince you're never going to stop posting about this topic Jason I'd like to hear your side of the story on this deal with Ted where you left him a negative. I read the link to the story on the CU boards and it sure doesn't look as though he's lying. You promised him a card if he left you positive feedback - he did so and you gave him a negative. Now I'm not sure why you continue to drag this out because you look really bad here...you had some difficult ebay deals in which you claim your employee is responsible and you do very little in my estimation to make it right with the buyers. So in order to get back at them you buy something from them off ebay so you can hold the feedback over their head. Now your complaining that ebay has suspended you when it's clear to everyone that your intention was to cause more problems by holding the feedback over their heads.

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06-14-2008, 04:55 PM

Posted By: JasonDan- You have no knowledge of the complete story. Feel free to call anytime at 816-294-9847. I am watching the CWS tonight so I may not answer, but call anytime. I will love to go over any of this over the phone. Ted's issue happended well over a year ago and I barely recall what it was even about. I do not have a habit of giving negatives and try to avoid at all cost, so if he got one, it was well deserved. The thing that matters here is that David Rosenberg is exposed for what he really is and point made that ebay screwed up by taking away balance of power between buyers and sellers. Seems like all I do is defend myself here because guys like Steve and Ted have nothing to do but troll my threads and talk about me like they know me, which is not true. Believe what you want, but all that matters is what the solid guys who know me on here think. They know me, how I conduct business, and what I am about. Many tousands of dollars in transactions with guys like Toby, Dan K, Wentz's, etc....guys like that. I have never bought or sold anything with Steve, or George as far as I know, and I dont even remember Ted's issue but am very sure it was minor. My guess is a card under $50. Seems like the more low ticket items you sell, the more problems you will have, especially on ebay. I am done here for quite a while. Need a break. Hopefully this thread will die and everyone can move on if Steve and the like will let it. I only keep posting because I feel I need to atleast defend myself.

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06-14-2008, 05:09 PM

Posted By: SteveThankyou for the retraction. Steve