1933 benny bengough question

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Posted By: <b>scott altland</b><p> besides being card number #1,condition sensitive,why even in low grades does the card demand the higher$$$?<br /> thanks,<br /> scott

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Posted By: <b>Frank Wakefield</b><p>Someone will post below saying the low condition ones are overpriced.<br /><br /><br />I've seen lots of 33 Goudeys, I remember years ago some dealers would just have a stack or two of them on a table, no holders, just a stack of cards. All of the cards would be worn. Very worn. They looked like a kid had kept them in their back pocket for a few years. The cards didn't hold up well, I think, something to do with the sandwich design of the Goudey card, they have multiple layers of different types of paper. With Bengough on the top of the pile, he'd 'catch' lots of wear. And I think some of the Bengough cards were literally worn to pieces. I think there are fewer Bengough cards out there than other players, because of this.<br /><br />And... it is a fairly good looking card, don't you think?

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Posted By: <b>cmoking</b><p>I think you can ask the same question for most #1 cards of popular sets. When trying to put a set together, I know I appreciate getting the #1 so when I flip through my cards, it starts with #1 instead of say #4 or something like that. Even if the set isn't complete yet, having #1 feels like the goal is more in sight.<br /><br />Here's my card. Not low grade, but it feels right to show it in this thread.<br /><br /><img src="http://photos.imageevent.com/kingyao/1933goudey/websize/33G001SGC84.jpg">

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Posted By: <b>Frank Wakefield</b><p>Nice card.<br /><br /><br />Whenever I see that image I think of Ray Kinsella's dad, John, in Field of Dreams...

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Posted By: <b>Matt</b><p>Frank it's funny you say that - I bought the Goudey Paul Richards card because it reminded me of Kinsella:<br /><img src="http://auctions.justcollect.com/jp17/ss0361.jpg">

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Posted By: <b>JimB</b><p>King,<br />That is an awesome card.<br /><br />As was prophesized above, I think low-grade Bengoughs are over-priced. The card is not tougher to find than other low-number Goudeys, just tough to find ones that look like King's.<br />JimB

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Posted By: <b>davidcycleback</b><p>This Bengough pricing has been brought up before. The T206 Sherry Magee (non error) often sells for more than other T206s commons due to its association with the famous Magie error. So there is association going on with the pricing. I'm sure a no-name scrub player's 1961 Yankees jersey sells for premium over his 1962 jersey due to the association with Maris/Mantle's famous home run chase. The scrub may have had a better yeras in 62, but that doesn't matter.<br /><br />In the Magee case, Magee himself became more famous due to the error, with player notoriety obviously having effect on card prices. Even with other cards or memorabiia, modern collectors will say "Oh yeah, he's the error guy." That alone will boost his prices a bit.<br /><br />Brings to mind when Jerry Koosman boasted his rookie card is one of the most expensive in the hobby. <br /><br />Besides, you have to give an extra two points to Benny Bengough for his name. Sounds like kid's board game or brand of gum.<br /><br />Then there was the football player named Marion Butts. Growing up with that name, you'd better be a future 260 pound NFL All-Pro.