SGC pulls a "PSA"

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Posted By: <b>Bob</b><p>The Sporting Life set seems to be one of the toughest for these guys to get right. <br /><br /><br /><img src="http://i65.photobucket.com/albums/h233/trophybob/017_Lot801a_med.jpg" alt="Photobucket - Video and Image Hosting"><br><br /><img src="http://i65.photobucket.com/albums/h233/trophybob/017_Lot800a_med.jpg" alt="Photobucket - Video and Image Hosting"><br><br>

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Posted By: <b>JimB</b><p>As with PSA, they should certainly be crucified, or at least run out of town for making such a mistake. <img src="/images/wink.gif" height=14 width=14><br />JimB

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Posted By: <b>boxingcardman</b><p>They switched the labels in the encapsulation. They will fix it for free and probably give you a couple of vouchers for the trouble. That's what happened with mine. <br /><br />PSA would deny it ever happened. They took lessons from the Black Knight when it comes to taking responsibility for errors: <br /><br />Black Knight: 'Tis but a scratch!<br />King Arthur: A scratch? Your arm's off!<br />Black Knight: No, it isn't!<br />King Arthur: Well, what's that then?<br />King Arthur: I've had worse.<br />King Arthur: You liar!<br />Black Knight: Come on, you pansy!<br />[They fight again. Arthur cuts off the Knight's right arm]<br />King Arthur: Victory is mine!<br />[Kneels to pray]<br />King Arthur: We thank thee, Lord, that in thy mercy -<br />[Cut off by the Knight kicking him]<br />Black Knight: Come on, then.<br />King Arthur: What?<br />Black Knight: Have at you!<br />King Arthur: You are indeed brave, Sir Knight, but the fight is mine!<br />Black Knight: Oh, had enough, eh?<br />King Arthur: Look, you stupid bastard. You've got no arms left! <br><br>Sic Gorgiamus Allos Subjectatos Nunc

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Posted By: <b>Brad L.</b><p>Actually, PSA will offer a free fix and vouchers (probably not 100% of the time, don't know the stats on the vouchers) too, but of course fan boys wouldn't want that news getting out.

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Posted By: <b>Joe D.</b><p>amazing.<br /><br />PSA would get bashed mercilessly for this mistake.<br />Yet - when SGC does it.... well, PSA gets bashed again.<br /><br /><br />what a board!<br /><br />

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Posted By: <b>Jeff Lichtman</b><p>Damn, those cards look great in the SGC holders.

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Posted By: <b>Steve Murray</b><p>Consecutive cert numbers. Honest mistake.

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Posted By: <b>leon</b><p>Darn PSA......they should quit making mistakes. It's all their fault.....

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Posted By: <b>Neal</b><p>Why only 60s...those cards look great! Here are my latest 2 M116s graded!<br /><br /><img src="http://www.network54.com/Realm/tmp/1210785509.JPG">

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Posted By: <b>Jeff Mohler</b><p>SGC has made a couple of errors in labeling my Exhibit cards from the 1920's. One was a 1923 Exhibit that they called a 1922 and the other one was a stamped back 1922 Exhibit that they graded a 30 rather than the 80 that it came back as the second time.<br /><br />However, they always fixed the problem for free when I sent the card back to SGC to break out and relabel.<br /><br />I would like to thank Adam Warshaw for sending me info on those two exhibits so that I could convince SGC to re-label them.<br /><br />Jeff

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Posted By: <b>Joe D.</b><p>Bob,<br /><br />It serves you right.<br /><br />You should have known PSA could make this kind of mistake.<br />So now that you have it back from PSA and the flips are all screwy - well that is just PSA.<br />You go with PSA you get PSA service.<br /><br />Next time send the cards to SGC.<br />They would never, ever, ever, ever make a mistake like that.<br /><br />Joe

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Posted By: <b>robert</b><p>Bob,<br /><br />Crack those beautiful magazine cards out of those silly holders.<br /><br />Rob

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Posted By: <b>Bob</b><p>Actually the cards aren't mine they are in an auction now but I spotted them. Didn't notice the consecutive number certs but still I have seen plenty of PSA and SGC mistakes on this set. Everything from labelling Mordecai Brown as "Buster" Brown to very common errors, such as "blue back" when the card has a black back, or "pastel" when the card is easily a blue front or vice-versa. I think one thing which makes so many mislabelling occur is that there is a subset of cards which have blue AND black backs, with most of them having just blue backs. I have seen cards slabbed as "blue back" which never occur with black backs, and lots of "blue backs" when it is the front that is blue. Be careful when you buy these cards in slabs to make sure you are getting what you think you are getting, scans of both sides of the cards is always helpful...

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Posted By: <b>Matt</b><p>Bob - I concur that the blue/black backs and blue/pastel background possibilites are why these are often mislabeled. "Blue back" could easily be mistaken to mean "blue background."

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Posted By: <b>Jon Canfield</b><p>They all make mistakes. No, this is not a super-rare E95 Doyle "NY on chest".<br /><br /><a href="http://s82.photobucket.com/albums/j263/jon_canfield/?action=view¤t=doyle.jpg" target="_blank"><img src="http://i82.photobucket.com/albums/j263/jon_canfield/doyle.jpg" border="0" alt="Photobucket"></a>

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Posted By: <b>Jerry Hrechka</b><p> So all I learned by reading this thread was that all TPG's make mistakes. Such a shock - all humans are prone to errors.

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Posted By: <b>Steve Murray</b><p>That Doyle is a classic. Thanks for sharing again Jon.

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Posted By: <b>boxingcardman</b><p>Jeff: Glad to help out. For everyone else reading the post, the issue is that some of the 1920s Exhibits can be found with a factory-applied origin stamp on the back, likely used to make it legal to ship/sell in Canada. You'd only find this on some 1921-23 cards. Starting in 1925 the company put the origin label right into the printed text on the card front. <br /><br />Jon: I don't collect caramels, so I don't get the reference. Please explain. <br><br>Sic Gorgiamus Allos Subjectatos Nunc

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Posted By: <b>Jon Canfield</b><p>The "NY" is drawn on with pen and was missed by the graders.

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Posted By: <b>John</b><p>Jon;<br /><br />If you ever want to sell that card keep me in mind I think I would like to start a subset of these I already have one, perhaps the same kid did mine....<br /><br /><img src="http://photos.imageevent.com/piojohn3/collection/te/hoffman.jpg">

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Posted By: <b>Matt</b><p>that "talented kid" was the wonka photoshop expert of his time!

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Posted By: <b>Jon Canfield</b><p>John - unfortunately I do not own the card above. I had actually intended to buy the card as an upgrade for my E95 set and then noticed the NY on the chest.

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Posted By: <b>dan mckee</b><p>These labelling mistakes are meaningless. Both companies will fix it for free. Lets talk about when there is money involved. I bought an ebay item PSA T205 Graham Cubs variation for a few hundred in a 4 label. No picture on the auction. card comes and behold, label states Cubs but the card is Rustlers. There is about $150 difference there. Seller tells me to pound pavement, I go to PSA and guess what? They fixed the label for free, Dan is out $150. Now that is customer service at its best!

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Posted By: <b>Steve</b><p>Dan I agree with you, your seller needs a course in customer service.<br /><br />Also, I should ask you why you didn't ask for a scan?<br /><br /><br />Steve<br /><br /><br /><br />

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Posted By: <b>boxingcardman</b><p>whoever wrote in those teams is good...or was...probably dead by now.<br><br>Sic Gorgiamus Allos Subjectatos Nunc

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Posted By: <b>dan mckee</b><p>It was many years ago early in ebay days when about 40% of the auctions did not have pictures. Let me ask you something. PSA labeled it CUBS variation. Should I need to see it? They are the experts. A professionally graded card and I should ask for a scan to make sure the correct card has been entombed?

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Posted By: <b>MikeU</b><p>"It was many years ago early in ebay days when about 40% of the auctions did not have pictures. Let me ask you something. PSA labeled it CUBS variation. Should I need to see it? They are the experts. A professionally graded card and I should ask for a scan to make sure the correct card has been entombed?"<br /><br />Please stop unjustly bashing on PSA.