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05-12-2008, 07:41 PM
Posted By: <b>Dan Kravitz</b><p>Everyone is watching this, so I figure a $100,000 card is hard to "out". Below is the Garter from Hunt and then the below that is the one from Ebay. I will not be bidding on the item offered on Ebay, cause the story is a little fishy to say the least. BUT, it looks soooo good, it will be hard not to wonder what if. The 2 cards look very (very) similar. Anyone have any thoughts?<br /><br /><img src="http://i68.photobucket.com/albums/i12/chiprop/cobbgarterhunt.jpg"><br /><img src="http://i68.photobucket.com/albums/i12/chiprop/cobbgarterebay.jpg"><br />

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05-12-2008, 07:50 PM
Posted By: <b>dan mckee</b><p>An overseas scam is my bet.

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05-12-2008, 07:52 PM
Posted By: <b>Steve Murray</b><p>Same card. Scam.

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05-12-2008, 07:57 PM
Posted By: <b>Anthony S.</b><p><br />Beware of Germans bearing garters.

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05-12-2008, 07:57 PM
Posted By: <b>Jeff Lichtman</b><p>Dan, roll your tongue back into your mouth. Total scam. Does anyone honestly think it is conceivable that someone would have a card such as this, not get it graded, and sell it from a foreign country?

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05-12-2008, 08:00 PM
Posted By: <b>Anonymous</b><p>Nope, scam. The identical top-to-bottom off-centering on the front of both cards give this away. Of all cards, why did they choose to scam this one!<br /><br />-Seth B.

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05-12-2008, 08:07 PM
Posted By: <b>Jeremy W.</b><p>It appears to have a little border on the bottom. If I had to guess, I'd guess fake though.

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05-12-2008, 08:37 PM
Posted By: <b>Dan Kravitz</b><p>Jeff-<br />I know it is a fake. I just wanted it to be real like the holmes to Jax that I passed on for $4k. I picked up a raw Jackson Sporting News on Ebay a while back and got it in an SGC 50 holder. This one is a tad more obvious. I did consider it to the point that I called Mastercard and asked them to back me up. When they said no, I knew I was over my head. You know your a baseball card junkie when... You call Mastercard! Thanks Leon

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05-12-2008, 08:43 PM
Posted By: <b>Jeff Lichtman</b><p>Yeah, that's the problem with the card: no way any credit card company or paypal will cover this disaster.

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05-12-2008, 09:22 PM
Posted By: <b>Dan Koteles</b><p>the bottom left is different and the outer part of the inside diamond frameline has orange , to where this has the outer edge tones.

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05-12-2008, 09:49 PM
Posted By: <b>fkw</b><p>I cant say if the auction is legit, but the 2 cards pictured are not the same exact card.

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05-13-2008, 06:14 AM
Posted By: <b>MVSNYC</b><p>i'm with fkw.<br /><br />i cannot say whether this is a legit card or auction (probably not real) BUT...<br /><br />top-bottom & left-right centering are totally different.

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05-13-2008, 06:28 AM
Posted By: <b>Jeff Lichtman</b><p>I have an officemate who is presently in Germany and will be for another week. I emailed the seller and told him that if I win the auction I would like to wire funds to Germany and have my friend hand deliver cash for payment for the card. The seller has not responded.<br /><br />

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05-13-2008, 06:45 AM
Posted By: <b>MVSNYC</b><p>actually, i just had both images side-by-side...<br /><br />they are closer then i originally thought...i am seeing the same little stains/imperfections on both...probably the same scan, just much lighter, faded image.<br /><br />if it sounds too good to be true, it probably is.<br /><br />edited to add: to me the centering is still different, but that could have been photoshoped or cropped somehow...

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05-13-2008, 07:22 AM
Posted By: <b>Steve Murray</b><p>"Same card. Scam."<br /><br />I stand by my statement. The corner wear tells the story.

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05-13-2008, 02:26 PM
Posted By: <b>Bob C</b><p>Anthony, I believe they call them lederhosen over there...<br /><br /><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A_MGQJaWbyM" target="_new" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A_MGQJaWbyM</a><br /><br /><br />

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05-14-2008, 08:43 AM
Posted By: <b>Steve Murray</b><p>Ebay has pulled the listing.

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05-14-2008, 09:00 AM
Posted By: <b>Jeff Lichtman</b><p>Damn it to hell. I received an email back from the seller about my request to have someone meet him in Germany with money if I won the auction. The answer was complete gibberish.

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05-14-2008, 09:11 AM
Posted By: <b>leon</b><p>Jeff- you could have bought a big bag of nothing.....I always appreciate big bags of nothing....<br /><br />idiot scammers....