Tuesday nite Trivia ?

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Posted By: <b>Ted Zanidakis</b><p>Name the oldest continuous baseball franchise ?<br /><br />I would also venture to say it is the longest running franchise in all of the American sports.<br /><br />T-Rex TED<br /><br />

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Posted By: <b>MVSNYC</b><p>cincinnati reds 1869

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Posted By: <b>Dan Bretta</b><p>Chicago Cubs

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Posted By: <b>Eric</b><p>Cincinnati would be my guess as well

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Posted By: <b>Chris Counts</b><p>How about the Atlanta/Milwaukee/Boston Braves/Bees/Beaneaters/Red Stockings, etc. ?

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Posted By: <b>Bob Pomilla</b><p>The Braves<br /><br />Oops, just a little late <img src="/images/happy.gif" height=14 width=14>

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Posted By: <b>Ted Zanidakis</b><p>Keep guessing for the right answer.<br /><br />

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Posted By: <b>Lance</b><p>The Pittsburg/Pittsburgh Pirates... Thanks for the great card,BTW.

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Posted By: <b>Ron Lambert</b><p>I believe it's the Phillies

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Posted By: <b>Bernie</b><p>yup, it's the phillies

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Posted By: <b>Wayne</b><p>My guess would be the Louisville baseball club...Am I wayyyy off?

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Posted By: <b>Dan Bretta</b><p>The Chicago Cubs (1870) I'm pretty sure is the oldest continuous baseball team...they predate the phillies by 3 or 4 years.

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Posted By: <b>Turner Engle</b><p>Boston?

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Posted By: <b>Chris Counts</b><p>I was under the impression that you could trace the Atlanta Braves back to the Cincinnati Red Stockings of 1869 ...

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Posted By: <b>MikeU</b><p>Tie Between: Detroit Tigers and Chicago White Sox. Not a single city or name change or gap since their beginning(1901).

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Posted By: <b>CN</b><p> I would say Cincinatti Redlegs.CN

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Posted By: <b>Dan Bretta</b><p>We need some clarification here Ted...if it's the oldest continuous team nickname it's the Phillies. If it's the longest continuous franchise it is the Cubs.

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Posted By: <b>MVSNYC</b><p>...and if it's the most dominating team in history, it's the Yankees...<br /><br /><img src="/images/happy.gif" height=14 width=14>

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Posted By: <b>MikeU</b><p>"We need some clarification here Ted...if it's the oldest continuous team nickname it's the Phillies. If it's the longest continuous franchise it is the Cubs."<br /><br />The Cubs were not the Cubs until 1903. <br />The Phillies have only been the Phillies without interuption since 1945.

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Posted By: <b>MikeU</b><p>"I would say Cincinatti Redlegs.CN"<br /><br />Their official name is the Reds and it has only been official since 1960. <br />

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Posted By: <b>Dan Bretta</b><p>The Phillies never officially changed their nickname. They still had "Phillies" on their uniform through the whole "Blue Jays" name change.<br /><br /><img src="http://exhibits.baseballhalloffame.org/dressed_to_the_nines/images/nl_1945_philadelphia.gif">

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Posted By: <b>MikeU</b><p>"I was under the impression that you could trace the Atlanta Braves back to the Cincinnati Red Stockings of 1869 ..."<br /><br />Atlanta started as the Boston Red Caps in 1876. I would not call 6 name changes and 3 city changes as being continuous. <br />

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Posted By: <b>MikeU</b><p>"The Pittsburg/Pittsburgh Pirates... Thanks for the great card,BTW."<br /><br />Since 1891. I think you won. There goes my Tigers/White Sox answer.

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Posted By: <b>Mike McKee</b><p>Montreal Canadiens - oldest <br /><br />Baseball - NY Giants<br />

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Posted By: <b>Ted Zanidakis</b><p>Philadelphia PHILLIES is the correct answer......established in 1876, they have been the PHILLIES since 1883.<br /><br />The Chicago franchise was originally the WHITE STOCKINGS.....it dominated the old National League from 1880 to 1891<br /> with that great HOFer....Adrian "Cap" Anson as their player/manager.<br /><br />TED Z<br />

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Posted By: <b>Ron Lambert</b><p>I thought I had Phillies before Dan B <img src="/images/sad.gif" height=14 width=14>

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Posted By: <b>MikeU</b><p>"Philadelphia PHILLIES is the correct answer......established in 1876, they have been the PHILLIES since 1883.<br /><br />The Chicago franchise was originally the WHITE STOCKINGS.....it dominated the old National League from 1880 to 1891<br />with that great HOFer....Adrian "Cap" Anson as their player/manager."<br /><br />I am going to have to disagree. Philadelphia started as the Quackers in 1883 and changed to the Phillies in 1890 (1 year prior to the Pirates). Then for some strange reason, they officially changed their name to the Blue Jays for the 1943 and 1944 seasons. Because of this folly, the rightfull crown should default to the Pittsburg Pirates.

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Posted By: <b>Dan Bretta</b><p>The White Stocking are the same "Franchise" as the Cubs, it is older than the Phillies. Now if you had said same continuous nickname I would agree that it's the Phillies, but I am certain the NL Chicago franchise is the answer to your original question.<br /><br />Edited to add: A nickname change is not a franchise change - would anyone argue that the NY Highlanders is not the same franchise as the NY Yankees? Or that the Colt 45's is not the same franchise as the Astros?

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Posted By: <b>Ted Zanidakis</b><p>I realize you were the 1st with the correct answer.<br /><br />I was just responding to Dan's question.<br /><br />TED Z

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Posted By: <b>Dan Bretta</b><p>Well Ted, the way you phrased the question the Phillies is NOT the correct answer.

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Posted By: <b>MikeU</b><p>"I realize you were the 1st with the correct answer.'<br /><br />If the Cubs lose out for being the White Stockings, Colts and Orphans, then surely,Philadelphia must lose the string for being the Blue Jay's in 43 and 44. Righfull victory to the Pirates. <br />

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Posted By: <b>Ted Zanidakis</b><p>My source for this quiz is the Hall of Fame.<br /><br />If you differ, I suggest that you take it up with them.

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Posted By: <b>Frank Wakefield</b><p>You can't have anything anymore...<br /><br /><br />I didn't get on line in time for the question... but got here in time for the fussin'.<br /><br />Reminds me of the nickname of one of the ballplayers who's in the white border set... 'Death to all things fun."

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Posted By: <b>Dan Bretta</b><p>I will concede that the Pirates have the Phillies beat by one year on longest continuous nickname...but the Phillies never officially changed their name to the Blue Jays. The uniforms always said "Phillies" on them with a blue jay on the sleeve.<br /><br />And for the record the original question said "Longest continuous franchise" which is of course the Cubs. <img src="/images/happy.gif" height=14 width=14>

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Posted By: <b>MikeU</b><p>The Phillies trump themselves as the longest running single name, single city team. If I were the Pirates, I would have a beef with this due to the whole Blue Jay formal naming situation, but still keeping the Phillies nick name. Good topic for the SABR guys to rule on officially:&gt;) <br /><br />Ted, my disagreements were in jest (good nature).

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Posted By: <b>Dan Bretta</b><p>As were mine. Is there anything better than arguing about baseball? I could argue with a paper sack, but I'd much rather argue with you guys.

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Posted By: <b>Ted Zanidakis</b><p>Just a fun, thought-provoking thread....we cranked up 36 posts in just 2 hours.<br /><br />Dan, I will concede this to you......when I saw this stated at the HOF, I thought it made sense, since I assumed<br />that the old Chicago WHITE STOCKINGS became the WHITE SOX in 1901 when the American League was formed.<br /><br />But, as we know the old Chicago team became the CUBS; however, their uniforms did not reflect this until 1909.<br /><br />Best regards <img src="/images/happy.gif" height=14 width=14><br /><br />T-Rex TED