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05-07-2008, 02:57 PM
Posted By: <b>Matt</b><p>Anyone know what happened here?<br /><a href="http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=110250511464" target="_new" rel="nofollow">http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=110250511464</a><br />

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05-07-2008, 03:27 PM
Posted By: <b>boxingcardman</b><p>For once people decided not to deal with anyone short of Satan just because they saw a deal. <br><br>Sic Gorgiamus Allos Subjectatos Nunc

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05-07-2008, 06:36 PM
Posted By: <b>dan mckee</b><p>He is going to have a back glued on it, shill bid it, and get $20K

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05-07-2008, 07:28 PM
Posted By: <b>Tom Boblitt</b><p>I say he sold it to the highest bidder offline just like he did a lot of tough non-sports cards. That bidder is going to crack it open, float it in some distilled water and pull that paper off the back, dry it and then get it re-encapsulated and sell it for 2X what he paid RIck for it. Hopefully anyway.....

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05-07-2008, 07:50 PM
Posted By: <b>Steve Murray</b><p>I thought of that too but Rick's too smart to leave that much money on the table if he thought there was any chance the paper would soak off. I suspect that it is permanently attached and any attempt to remove it would take the back off it as well.

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05-07-2008, 08:03 PM
Posted By: <b>Tom Boblitt</b><p>he's THAT smart.......he left a lot of money on the table on a non-sports lot he sold before the auction ended......not JAX type of money here if it could be soaked but a lot. It would be a huge gamble but the payoff would be in the thousands.....especially if it'd get a 'real' grade and not auth.

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05-07-2008, 08:57 PM
Posted By: <b>Charlie Barokas</b><p>My mistake.<br /><br />CB

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05-07-2008, 09:07 PM
Posted By: <b>Charlie Barokas</b><p>Matt,<br /><br /><br />FYI, the card was sold to someone other than me for $14,000. I called and asked them why they ended the auction because I was the high-bidder and they said they had sold it off ebay for $14,000.<br /><br />CB

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05-07-2008, 09:37 PM
Posted By: <b>Jim VB</b><p>Charlie, <br /><br />I didn't see either Dan or Matt reference you (unless some posts were deleted). Did I miss something. The way I read it, any negativity was directed at Broadway Rick, not you.

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05-07-2008, 10:41 PM
Posted By: <b>quan</b><p>charlie,<br /><br />good to know it sold for 14k. the buyer is def not shelling out 14k to leave the card in an altered holder...better keep scans just in case. i had a snipe on it but i certainly wasn't willing to go 14k.

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05-07-2008, 10:45 PM
Posted By: <b>Bob</b><p>Reading this thread is like walking in halfway in a movie, I guess I missed something????

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05-08-2008, 02:04 AM
Posted By: <b>Steve</b><p>Didn't you guys know that Charlie is also a mind reader.<br /><br /><br />Steve

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05-08-2008, 05:09 AM
Posted By: <b>dan mckee</b><p>I think I am the only Dan here Charlie but I have no idea what you are talking about. I was referencing my good friend Rick who had the card for sale when I posted. So unless you are talking about someone else, I guess we will just have to have a problem because I don't see anything to retract and I don't even see how you are connected to this thread. Dan.

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05-08-2008, 05:11 AM
Posted By: <b>Dave F</b><p>I was wondering the same thing when I clicked on this...not sure what Dan did or anybody else did for that matter accusing Charlie of anything. Maybe I'm missing something?

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05-08-2008, 05:17 AM
Posted By: <b>dan mckee</b><p>I think I see what Charlie meant! You thought I was talking about you Charlie! too funny. You were winning it at the time I guess but the auction was ended early with reserve not met so that to me means the seller didn't sell it. Once again I was speaking about Rick but obviously your conscience must have gotten the best of you to attack me like that. I do accept apologies though.<br />Sorry Charlie (isn't that a Tuna commercial?) I wasn't speaking about you as I was unaware that you would do anything like that but Rick has actually been busted and had articles written about his antics. Dan.

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05-08-2008, 06:11 AM
Posted By: <b>Jeff Lichtman</b><p>Charlie, is there something you want to get off your chest?

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05-08-2008, 06:26 AM
Posted By: <b>Charlie Barokas</b><p>Dan,<br /><br />My fault. I read the post wrong. I will edit my post. Must have been one too many late-night Starbucks Latee's.<br /><br />CB

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05-08-2008, 06:28 AM
Posted By: <b>leon</b><p>Wake up and go back to bed. It works every time for me.....I still think that was a steep price while not knowing the exact issue(s) with the back.....

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05-08-2008, 06:53 AM
Posted By: <b>dan mckee</b><p>No worries here Charlie. We are still golden. Dan

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05-08-2008, 07:12 AM
Posted By: <b>Preece1</b><p>Dan,<br /><br />I thought you were only golden with me.<br /><br />Patrick<br /><br />

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05-08-2008, 07:49 AM
Posted By: <b>Dan Koteles</b><p>are you all wearing the same manties?

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05-08-2008, 08:51 AM
Posted By: <b>dan mckee</b><p>Pat you will always be my hero!

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05-08-2008, 10:58 AM
Posted By: <b>Bob</b><p>Florida Rick sold the card altered and only authenticated for $14,000 ????<br />Wow, seems like a huge price and way out of my thinking for what it should be worth. I could really care less what he got for the card but the thing that impacts me is that I need this card to complete my E90-1 set and have been on the lookout for a decent PSA 1 or 2 and now the price for it slipped further in to the stratosphere based on this sale <img src="/images/sad.gif" height=14 width=14>

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05-08-2008, 11:01 AM
Posted By: <b>barrysloate</b><p>Bob- you might not want to use this sale as a barometer for all future sales.

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05-08-2008, 11:01 AM
Posted By: <b>Matt</b><p>Bob - it won't be recorded in VCP...

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05-08-2008, 11:10 AM
Posted By: <b>Jodi Birkholm</b><p>Barry,<br /><br />It's pronounced "thermometer".<br /><br />(Kramer)

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05-08-2008, 11:22 AM
Posted By: <b>Phil Garry</b><p>I consigned an E90-1 Jackson SGC Authentic (trimmed) in the 2007 REA Auction and was very disappointed with the ($3,750 + juice) sale price.

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05-08-2008, 11:24 AM
Posted By: <b>Matt</b><p>Phil - you should have glued some paper to the back first.

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05-08-2008, 11:35 AM
Posted By: <b>Alan</b><p>What a thread.<br /><img src="http://vbbc.forumotion.com/users/17/23/61/smiles/136179.gif">

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05-08-2008, 11:39 AM
Posted By: <b>Bottom of the Ninth</b><p>Bob,<br /><br />This price is not going to raise the bar. Someone, and we can rule out Charlie, paid up as they feel they can get the card to grade. Looked like a nice card and someone may have gotten themselves a deal. I think nice 1's are going for about 7K, which is what I was selling my 3's for a couple of years ago.<br /><br />Greg