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05-07-2008, 12:16 PM
Posted By: <b>Dave Haas</b><p>I was going to sell a duplicate 1921 Exhibits Walter Holke card when I realized it wasn't a duplicate. The SGC Holke is his '21 Exhibit card but the PSA Holke I believe is his 1923-24 Exhibit card. Holke didn't play for Philadelphia until 1923. Someone at PSA goofed. <img src="http://www.network54.com/Realm/tmp/1210183988.JPG"> <img src="http://www.network54.com/Realm/tmp/1210183973.JPG">

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05-07-2008, 12:32 PM
Posted By: <b>Red</b><p>This is a good example of buying the card, not the label. Although PSA goofed in their id of the card, you also goofed when buying it, owning it, and not noticing it until now. I realize there's an expectation for them to be perfect but mistakes like this will always occur, especially on something that wasn't immediately apparent to a collector of the issue.

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05-07-2008, 12:38 PM
Posted By: <b>Anthony S.</b><p>You gotta hand it to Walter. He's got some serious muscle memory in those photos.

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05-07-2008, 01:50 PM
Posted By: <b>JimB</b><p>Red makes good points. The submitter probably entered the wrong year as well. We all make mistakes from time to time.<br />JimB

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05-07-2008, 02:23 PM
Posted By: <b>boxingcardman</b><p>You got a much more desirable card...<br><br>Sic Gorgiamus Allos Subjectatos Nunc

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05-07-2008, 02:30 PM
Posted By: <b>leon</b><p>You said we all make mistakes from time to time. I am first one in line with that statement.....I make more than most but don't mind admitting them, fixing them, and moving on.....This mis-label isn't real bad considering they do look similar.....If I wasn't reading the SCD to know the differences I could have made that mistake. I am not an Exhibit expert.....regards

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05-07-2008, 05:31 PM
Posted By: <b>Dave Haas</b><p>I bought this card along with 30+ other Exhibits from a fellow board member and it was graded when I received it. I admittedly didn't notice the difference from std 1921's until I had a 2nd card to compare it to, even though the difference is obvious to Exhibit collectors. My only point is when you pay to have a card graded it is expected that the grading company gets at least the year it was produced right. I expect the same service from my investment banker, lawn service and pest control company. Granted the card is worth more as a 1923-24, which hopefully the board member who sold it to me won't want a cut of, so I'm not upset.

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05-07-2008, 05:53 PM
Posted By: <b>Tom Boblitt</b><p>too many excuses for them but the 1921, 1922 and 1923-24 exhibits are all REALLY close style wise..........

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05-07-2008, 06:28 PM
Posted By: <b>Hagar Henderson</b><p>That's not a big goof. If you call PSA I'm sure they will gladly fix it for you at no charge. At least I would hope that they would. If their customer service won't do it, e-mail joe@collectors.com and I'm sure he will get it taken care of.

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05-07-2008, 06:30 PM
Posted By: <b>dan mckee</b><p>or..... they could hire someone that knows pre-war cards????<br /><br />Nah, that won't happen, I love grading!

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05-07-2008, 07:29 PM
Posted By: <b>Hagar Henderson</b><p>Dan, I detect a little sarcasm about grading. I'll buy graded cards if it's something I want but I won't pay a premium for it just because the card is graded high. I base my buying offer strictly on how I view the card. There's so many graded cards on the market that it's hard to avoid buying them. I keep my sets in albums and if I buy a card for my set that happens to be graded, I crack it out of the holder and put it in the album.

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05-07-2008, 08:38 PM
Posted By: <b>Steve Murray</b><p>You're catching on quick. <img src="/images/happy.gif" height=14 width=14>

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05-08-2008, 07:58 AM
Posted By: <b>Brad L.</b><p>Since the card holdered doesn't magically transform into what the label says, I have no real issue with PSA making some labeling mistakes here and there. While I have seen some rediculous mistakes from time to time, PSA is always good about reholdering with the correct flip at no charge. I'd rather have them keep making these small errors while concentrating on quality control regarding fakes, alterations, etc.

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05-08-2008, 08:25 AM
Posted By: <b>Steve Murray</b><p>Often mislabling is a result of what the submitter puts on the submission form. Often PSA and SGC for that matter will rely on us to know what we're talking about.<br /><br />I submitted a Cutshaw Exhibit to SGC and designated it as a 1921. It got slabbed that way even though it's a 1922.<br /><br />