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04-15-2008, 08:33 AM
Posted By: <b>Neil</b><p>Hello,<br /><br />I have been lurking (learning) hear for quite some time. Over the past several months using ebay I have compiled over 300 pages of raw data based soley on buying a vintage set and breaking the cards 1 by 1. The profit margins seems to be very large. Then i decided to test it and see how long it actually takes. What i came up with was not a great result. It took me almost 2 weeks to get all of the scans and all of the auctions set up. <br /><br />I decided to work with a software programmer to develop a quick listing service and also invested in a high powered scanner that i had modified for my needs.<br /><br />I now can scan and list a full set in about 4 hours.<br /><br />I am about to start breaking 5-7 sets per week. I was trying to guage interest and find out if any of the board members here would be intersted in a unique consignment opportunity with me? I realize that most of the members here are at the forefront of the industry and I was just trying to see if I could get into your circle?<br /><br />If this message is in any way offensive at all please know that i meant no harm at all.<br /><br />Thanks!<br /><br />Neil
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04-15-2008, 09:23 AM
Posted By: <b>sagard</b><p>You should share some examples of your ebay auctions. It has not been my experience lately that the sum of the parts has been larger than the whole.<br /><br />Good luck either way.
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04-15-2008, 09:47 AM
Posted By: <b>Jimmy</b><p>Neil,<br /><br />With the info you listed below, yes a complete set and selling them separate or in smaller lots can be tough. The process does take some time, I do have a system that I use that speeds this up. What takes long is the scanning; pictures sometimes are better and faster. The descriptions not too bad just need to explain the card or cards well<br /><br />My site is below, and I have a banner on this site as well, I maybe able to help you out.<br /><br />www.jbsportsauctions.com<br /><br />Jimmy<br /><br />J&B Sports Auctions<br />
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04-15-2008, 10:16 AM
Posted By: <b>barrysloate</b><p>The only way for the profit margin on a set to be large is if the set can be bought cheaply. And since there are many people doing the same thing, that can be difficult. It happens occasionally, but I find most of the time the profit margin is modest.
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04-15-2008, 11:08 AM
Posted By: <b>Neil</b><p>Here i just one example this was a 69 set broken card by card, for some reason the card #s are not showing up from excel spreadsheet.<br /><br />5.25<br />8.31<br />2.2<br />0.99<br />2.25<br />0.99<br />3<br />0.99<br />2.76<br />0.99<br />0.99<br />3.26<br />0.99<br />0.99<br />2.8<br />0.99<br />0.99<br />0.99<br />0<br />18.51<br />0<br />0.99<br />0.99<br />2.79<br />4.29<br />0.99<br />0.99<br />0.99<br />0.99<br />0.99<br />4.25<br />0<br />0.99<br />0<br />10.5<br />0.99<br />0.99<br />0.99<br />0.99<br />0.99<br />0.99<br />0.99<br />2.25<br />0.99<br />0.99<br />0<br />1.6<br />0.99<br />7<br />70<br />0.99<br />2<br />0.99<br />0.99<br />4.25<br />2.75<br />0.99<br />0.99<br />1.34<br />3.25<br />0.99<br />0.99<br />1.5<br />0.99<br />0.99<br />2.76<br />0.99<br />0.99<br />4.69<br />0.99<br />0.99<br />5.5<br />0.99<br />0<br />2.8<br />0.99<br />2.6<br />0.99<br />1.04<br />5.5<br />3.25<br />3.55<br />0.99<br />0.99<br />0.99<br />0.99<br />0.99<br />0.99<br />0.99<br />7.6<br />0<br />2.34<br />0<br />0.99<br />76<br />0.99<br />0.99<br />1.25<br />2.76<br />49<br />3.25<br />1.25<br />0.99<br />0.99<br />0.99<br />2.26<br />3.13<br />0.99<br />1.25<br /><br />0<br /><br />0.99<br />6.56<br />2.76<br />0.99<br />5.5<br />0.99<br /><br />27.55<br />0.99<br />3.25<br />0.99<br />0.99<br />2.26<br />1.25<br />4.26<br />0.99<br />0.99<br />16.66<br />3.25<br />0.99<br /><br />0.99<br />3.75<br />2.26<br />0<br />0.99<br /><br />0.99<br />4.76<br />0.99<br />3.25<br />2.26<br />3.25<br />0.99<br />0<br />0.99<br />0.99<br />4.26<br />3.26<br />3.01<br />3.47<br />0.99<br />0.99<br />0.99<br />0<br />0.99<br />0.99<br />3.26<br />0.99<br />5.51<br />7.51<br />1.74<br />1.7<br />12.05<br />1.74<br />3.25<br />15.5<br />8.5<br /><br />0<br />0.99<br />0.99<br />1.04<br />0.99<br />2.75<br />3.63<br />0.99<br />8.5<br />1.25<br />1.3<br />1.04<br />0<br />2.26<br />2.26<br />3.55<br />1.64<br />2.25<br />26.63<br /><br />7.16<br />2.04<br />2.76<br />0.99<br />2.01<br />2.04<br /><br />2.26<br />16.82<br /><br />0.99<br />0.99<br />0.99<br />3.75<br />1.04<br />1.85<br />5.69<br />0<br />2.76<br />0.99<br />4.26<br />1.75<br />1.53<br />4.76<br />6.5<br />0.99<br />0.99<br />0.99<br />3.76<br />6.5<br />0.99<br />0.99<br />1.04<br />6.51<br />0.99<br />0.99<br />0.99<br />1.34<br />0.99<br />1.04<br />1.04<br />4.29<br />2.76<br />4.29<br />3.08<br />3.02<br />2.26<br />0.99<br />2.25<br />1.04<br />2.26<br />0.99<br />10.51<br />4.01<br />0.99<br />4.18<br />1.04<br /><br />12.05<br />0<br />2.15<br />0.99<br />2.83<br />14.36<br />8<br />0<br />0.99<br />4.29<br />113.5<br />0.99<br />2.14<br />4.29<br />0.99<br />1.3<br />0.99<br />5.05<br /><br />2.6<br />7.07<br />2<br />0<br />1.04<br />2.26<br />1.04<br />4.51<br />3.56<br />0.99<br />0<br />0.99<br />0.99<br />2.5<br />0.99<br />0.99<br />0.99<br /><br />1.52<br />5.05<br />5.13<br />2.83<br />1.55<br />5.55<br />0.99<br />3.8<br />9.51<br />0.99<br />0.99<br />0.99<br />3.8<br />10.59<br />1.55<br />2.26<br />1.75<br />3.25<br />2.51<br />3.25<br />4.18<br />0.99<br />0.99<br />1.04<br />0.99<br />5.51<br />4.9<br />1.34<br />3.26<br />3.75<br />2.75<br />0.99<br />2.79<br />3.75<br />6.25<br />0.99<br />2.26<br />2.26<br />0<br />0.99<br />0<br />0.99<br />0.99<br />5.55<br />0.99<br />1.04<br />0<br />1.3<br />4.8<br />2.51<br />0<br />2.26<br />0.99<br />0.99<br />0<br />0<br />4.04<br />1.77<br />3.25<br />1.04<br />3.8<br />1.04<br />1.3<br />3.55<br />0.99<br />0<br />2.26<br />0.99<br />6.51<br />1.64<br />3.75<br />0.99<br />2.75<br />0<br />0<br />3.09<br />0<br />5.55<br />0.99<br />0.99<br />3.76<br />0.99<br />2.33<br />4.8<br />3.25<br />0.99<br />3.75<br />0.99<br />22.5<br />0<br />0<br />0<br />0.99<br />2.76<br />6.51<br />0.99<br />0.99<br />2.26<br />3.8<br />0.99<br />0.99<br />0.99<br />0<br />6.5<br />0.99<br />0<br />5.51<br />6.51<br />0<br />0.99<br />0<br />1.7<br />0.99<br />4.94<br />2.26<br />3.8<br />0.99<br />0.99<br />2.26<br />0.99<br />1.83<br />0.99<br />0.99<br />15.51<br />0.99<br />12.51<br />0.99<br />0.99<br />3.75<br />3.38<br />6<br />2.01<br />8.13<br />2.01<br />6.7<br />9.5<br />7.5<br />9.63<br />2.94<br />20<br />0.99<br />3.8<br />5.82<br />4.25<br />3.25<br />7.5<br />2.01<br />1.5<br />3.75<br />3.25<br />2.38<br />1.04<br />2.26<br />8.58<br />14.79<br />1.04<br />3.75<br />1.04<br />0<br />0<br />3.25<br />0.99<br />1.04<br />5.5<br />3.26<br />1.54<br />3.25<br />7.51<br />2.25<br />2.01<br />0.99<br />1.04<br />5.54<br />5.51<br />0.99<br />5.54<br />0.99<br />1.04<br />7.17<br />5.55<br />1.04<br />0.99<br />3.8<br />10.51<br />6.51<br />2.25<br />0.99<br />2.25<br />4.25<br />13.49<br />1.04<br />1.83<br />0.99<br />36<br />0.99<br />3.8<br /><br />3.8<br />12.5<br />3.29<br />0.99<br />0.99<br />2.26<br />3.69<br />1.75<br />0.99<br />2.26<br />0.99<br />3.8<br />0.99<br />1.04<br />0.99<br />0.99<br />83<br />0<br />0.99<br />0.99<br />0.99<br />1.04<br />1.04<br />3.8<br />0.99<br />3.38<br />9.05<br />0.99<br />2.51<br />1.58<br />1.04<br />3.75<br />4.25<br />0.99<br />3.24<br />2.8<br />3.8<br />1.04<br />3.8<br />0.99<br />3.25<br />3.75<br />0.99<br />5.08<br />4.9<br />4.79<br />1.54<br />2.81<br />3.14<br />66<br />0.99<br />3.25<br />2.26<br />2.26<br />2.76<br />15.65<br />4.25<br />1.04<br />0.99<br />2.26<br />2.26<br />4.8<br />2.03<br />9.5<br />2.26<br />2.26<br />15.51<br />0.99<br />6.05<br />0<br />3.8<br />4<br />2.26<br />6.05<br />2.26<br />1.9<br />3.8<br />2.26<br />0.99<br />3.38<br />8.56<br />2.26<br />2.75<br />2.26<br />2.49<br />2.04<br />9.5<br />2.75<br />8.51<br />11.63<br />2.38<br />2.26<br />0.99<br />0.99<br />3.8<br />3.83<br />4.79<br />2.26<br />8.27<br />3.83<br />1.79<br />6.35<br />1.3<br />0<br />1.51<br />5.59<br />2.74<br />1.61<br />2.2<br />3.26<br />0.99<br />1.04<br />1.83<br />18.01<br />4.79<br /><br />8.79<br />8.65<br />2.25<br />1.29<br />3.34<br />1.54<br />2.26<br />0.99<br />1.6<br />3.8<br />1.81<br />1.8<br />4.79<br />4.94<br />2.38<br />1.04<br />4.47<br />0.99<br />3.29<br />5.51<br />2.47<br />4.79<br />0.99<br />4.79<br />2.8<br />3.34<br />4.26<br />3.75<br />4.25<br />1.04<br />26<br />4.79<br />3.75<br />4.8<br />5.05<br />2.79<br />2.83<br />5.24<br />2.38<br />3.04<br />12.51<br />2.52<br />4.79<br />16.25<br />3.25<br />3.31<br />3.8<br />5.51<br />5<br />3.26<br />12.04<br />0.99<br />4.83<br />3.26<br />4.79<br />3.26<br />0.99<br />9.5<br />5.55<br />5.51<br />4.8<br />1.87<br />7.61<br /><br />4.24<br />2466.8<br />paid 996 <br /><br /><br />I can not get all of the cards scanned and listed within 4 hours
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04-15-2008, 11:55 AM
Posted By: <b>barrysloate</b><p>I was referring to vintage sets; sets from the 60's apparently have a different break value. But the amount of work you need to do to sell all those cards one at a time is significant.
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04-15-2008, 10:14 PM
Posted By: <b>andy becker</b><p>"I can not get all of the cards scanned and listed within 4 hours"<br /><br /><br />how long did it take neil? and what was the grade of the set?
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04-16-2008, 07:23 AM
Posted By: <b>JK</b><p>Neil - how much did you have to pay in ebay and paypal fees? Or is that included in the $996 figure?
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04-16-2008, 08:13 AM
Posted By: <b>Neil</b><p>It takes me now about 5 hours total. My profits after paypal and ebay fees are normally about 600-2500 per set.<br /><br />5 times a week is the plan <br /><br />
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04-16-2008, 08:29 AM
Posted By: <b>Marty Ogelvie</b><p><P>I would think you need to pick your sets wisely.&nbsp; Also, I think your SOURCE would eventually dry up.&nbsp;&nbsp; I know the hardest thing for me, as a dealer, is it to get new products/cards at a price that I can profit from.&nbsp; I often sell cards at cost or even below cost in hopes of getting buyers to buy other cards that don't move as fast.</P><P>Good luck though and let us know of your success.</P><br><br>martyOgelvie<br />nyyankeecards.com