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03-19-2008, 11:17 AM
Posted By: <b>steve</b><p>A real, real nice Matty S74 silk on ebay - but no paper backing. Aside from the fact of no backing, it looks to be a screamer - top condition.<br /><br />But I am having hard time pulling trigger without the backing. <br /><br />Question: I know the price drops off considerably without paper back, but what might you value this Matty silk with no backing.<br /><br />I know the "color" silks of other variety never came with backing to begin with.<br /><br />steve

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03-19-2008, 11:22 AM
Posted By: <b>Todd</b><p>You will find the white silks with the backing pretty rare and usually command a premium when available. <br /><br />I have a couple of color Matty's that are in top shape. The white should go pretty high too.

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03-19-2008, 11:28 AM
Posted By: <b>steve</b><p>Todd, feel free to contact me if you ever want to sell your silks.<br /><br />I kinda feel like if you're waiting for silks with backing, you could be waiting a long, long, long, long time to assemble even a few nice specimins.<br /><br />steve

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03-19-2008, 12:13 PM
Posted By: <b>joe</b><p>I'm lucky to have 4 of the white silks with backing including Cobb. When I bought these years ago, they were not that hard to find, today is a different story.<br /><br />Joe<br><br>Ty Cobb, Spikes flying!

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03-19-2008, 12:46 PM
Posted By: <b>steve</b><p>You guys have me drooling over the mentioned high grade major HOFer s74 silks with backing.<br /><br />Let me know, steve

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03-19-2008, 12:54 PM
Posted By: <b>Mike</b><p>For years people have been buying non-baseball silks and remove their backing and put them on the baseball silks.

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03-19-2008, 01:29 PM
Posted By: <b>John</b><p><img src="http://photos.imageevent.com/piojohn3/ebay/websize/S74per20Silk.jpg">

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03-19-2008, 01:37 PM
Posted By: <b>Ron</b><p>Here are my Cobbs,<br />2 out of 3 whites have backing. <br /><img src="http://i268.photobucket.com/albums/jj18/ronskaggs/cobbs.jpg"><br><br><img src="http://i268.photobucket.com/albums/jj18/ronskaggs/19thcentury.jpg">

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03-19-2008, 02:08 PM
Posted By: <b>andy becker</b><p>hi guys....<br /><br />silks without the backing imo are worth substantially less (obviously). i don't buy silks without the backing as i feel people will overpay (and therefore i would have to overpay) just because they do not have the patience to find a nice backed example. <br /><br />they (backed silks) are out there, but they are becoming more and more scarce.<br /><br />boomer, i have seen obviously rebacked silks in passing....but they are very very obvious. additionally the actress silks used a "chip-board" backing vs. baseball silks that used a plain cardboard. not to say that there are not non-baseball silks whose backs would match up with baseball....but the sizing, fraying, and general apperance make them pretty obvious imo.<br /><br />i will post a couple scans tonight in hopes of having steve wet his keyboard <img src="/images/happy.gif" height=14 width=14><br /><br /><br />

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03-19-2008, 02:15 PM
Posted By: <b>steve</b><p>I once sent a black/white with backing silk to GAI for grading, the only company that grades silks(and BVG).<br /><br />It had the typical center fold that the vast majority have - as it was packaged folded. GAI severely downgraded it for the fold - I told them to send it back unslabbed.<br /><br />Are 90+ percent of black/white silks doomed for grading due to the way they were packaged with fold?<br /><br />The colored silks seem to be more without fold - guess they were packaged completely flat ?<br /><br />steve

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03-19-2008, 03:20 PM
Posted By: <b>Patrick McMenemy</b><p>For the record, there have been colored silks found with backing, although most are found without.<br /><br />Patrick