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03-17-2008, 03:19 PM
Posted By: <b>jamie</b><p>I have been reading threads about cards being masterfully put into real slabs and they are really fake. etc..... Leon warned me about frosted edges..I went through my collection and found something alarming... I found 3 sgc cards.. all with what I would consider Identical bar codes.. one is the Demmit St Louis..... Looking back all of these 3 came from the same seller... cards came from a board member which is why I think that maybe I am making some dumb mistake... please someone tell me Im crazy and the cards are all real.. have a look for yourself...<br /><br /><img src="http://i251.photobucket.com/albums/gg309/blunder19/example1.jpg"><br /><img src="http://i251.photobucket.com/albums/gg309/blunder19/ex3.jpg"><br /><img src="http://i251.photobucket.com/albums/gg309/blunder19/ex2.jpg"><br /><img src="http://i251.photobucket.com/albums/gg309/blunder19/ex4.jpg"><br /><img src="http://i251.photobucket.com/albums/gg309/blunder19/ex5.jpg"><br /><img src="http://i251.photobucket.com/albums/gg309/blunder19/demit.jpg"><br /><img src="http://i251.photobucket.com/albums/gg309/blunder19/demitside.jpg"><br /><img src="http://i251.photobucket.com/albums/gg309/blunder19/osseside.jpg">

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03-17-2008, 03:21 PM
Posted By: <b>James Feagin</b><p>You're crazy <img src="/images/happy.gif" height=14 width=14>

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03-17-2008, 03:27 PM
Posted By: <b>PC</b><p>The seller probably submitted all three cards to SGC. Check the serial numbers to the right of the flip, under the grade. Are they all the same, other than the last three numbers (after the dash)? If so, then I think the bar code matches up with the submitter's account code. But that's just a guess -- SGC can confirm.

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03-17-2008, 03:28 PM
Posted By: <b>T206Collector</b><p>....looks real to me. Looks like a Polar Bear card trimmed to fit in an American Beauty cigarette box, but looks "Authentic" to me.<br /><br />I'd say you're more paranoid than crazy.<br><br>_ <u> </u> _ <u> </u> _ <u> </u> _ <u> </u> _ <u> </u> _ <u> </u> _ _ <br /><br />Visit <a href="http://www.t206collector.com" target="_new" rel="nofollow">http://www.t206collector.com</a> for my blog, interviews, articles, card galleries and more!<br /><br />

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03-17-2008, 03:29 PM
Posted By: <b>Matt</b><p>The bar codes do look identical, but as we know more about identifying authentic cards and less about how SGC bar-codes their slabs, the best way for feedback on if the cards are authentic, is to show high quality scans of the cards.

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03-17-2008, 03:33 PM
Posted By: <b>jamie</b><p>Thanks guys.. after your $10,000 deep into the monster I guess Im loosing my mind ..<img src="/images/happy.gif" height=14 width=14>

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03-17-2008, 04:24 PM
Posted By: <b>fkw</b><p>Card is authentic

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03-17-2008, 05:18 PM
Posted By: <b>bigfish</b><p>Cards look great! No problems there.

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03-17-2008, 06:37 PM
Posted By: <b>Ted Zanidakis</b><p>Collecting "The Monster" should be an unrushed, enjoyable adventure. There is a very good likelihood, you will never fully complete it.<br />As Wagner's have become unaffordable....and all the Joe Doyle's that there ever was have been found. So, take a deep breath, relax<br /> and keep plugging away at it. And, by all means, have fun doing it.<br /><br />This is well meaning advice from someone who has "completed" a 521-card set.....a 520-card set.....a 518-card all-PIEDMONT set.....<br />and a fully complete all-SOVEREIGN set.<br /><br />TED Z

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03-17-2008, 06:52 PM
Posted By: <b>JK</b><p>Jamie,<br /><br />I agree the cards are fine. All of my cards are either purchased already slabbed by sgc or crossed to sgc. I just looked at some of my cards that I know that I sent to sgc for grading - it appears that the bar code is not keyed to the customer, but the order itself. In other words, some of the sgc slabbed cards I have had graded at different times, have different bar codes. However, it seems that any cards that were sent together, in the same shipment/order, all have the same bar code. My guess is that the bar code is used to track the cards and make sure they end up in the right package at the end of the process and it is not used for authenticating purposes.