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03-16-2008, 03:05 PM
Posted By: <b>bruce Dorskind</b><p><br />Many collectors (as well as dealers and investors)<br />experience the same recurring dream. Wondering into an isolated<br />antique shop or passing by a remote garage sale, one finds<br />a small group of "old baseball cards." <br /><br />For argument's sake lets assume that the "find" is not<br />T206s or 33 Goudeys but a far more obscure set.<br /><br />We wondered what were the chances that "the find" would<br />result in an ultra high grade example (defined as 7+ NQ<br />for this exercise).<br /><br />We looked at eight reasonably difficult, but not impossible,<br />sets and here is what we found<br /><br /><br />Set PSA Graded PSA 7+ SGC Graded SGC 84+ Percentage UH<br /><br />E 107 91 01 369 1 less than .05%<br />E 94 332 23 560 21 5%<br />E 300 67 27 21 2 33%<br />R 300 294 07 213 0 1.28%<br />R 306 53 01 149 0 less than .05%<br />R 328 1091 146 278 49 14.2%<br />R 333 1704 300 735 95 16,2%<br />T 200 631 8 71 1 7.3%<br /><br /><br />Clearly the "odds" against find a raw card that will obtain a very high<br />grade run somewhere between slim and none...but everyone once in<br />a great while...luck is on your side.<br /><br /><br />Bruce Dorskind<br />America's Toughest Want List

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03-16-2008, 03:15 PM
Posted By: <b>bruce Dorskind</b><p><br /><br />We would also welcome comments on the seemingly<br />vast differences in PSA and SGC's grading standards for these<br />issues<br /><br /><br />Bruce Dorskind<br />America's Toughest Want List

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03-16-2008, 03:48 PM
Posted By: <b>LetsGoBucs</b><p>Well if we (myself and my Bond-like girlfriend) found E107's and E94's in VG shape and lets say found about 150 E107's and 40 E94's we'd be thrilled, keep the players I like and then sell the rest and jet off to some secluded beach.........Oh James <img src="/images/happy.gif" height=14 width=14>

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03-16-2008, 06:14 PM
Posted By: <b>Andy</b><p>What is more likely finding those issues in PSA 7, or above grade? Or "We" in the original post actually representing a group rather than an individual?

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03-16-2008, 09:43 PM
Posted By: <b>john/z28jd</b><p>Bruce,if I may quote a Sir William Cosby of Penn as he spoketh upon his own creations during an act of Albert The Fat<br /><br /> Sir William: You guys are like 3,5 and 7<br /> Albert: like 3,5 and 7?<br /> Sir William: yeah,an odd group<br /><br /> Me thinks his quip is still very appropriate when referring upon one who claims to be more than one.<br /><br /><br /><br /> To answer the actual question now if I'm actually reading it correctly,I think you don't have a good chance of just finding raw high grade stuff at shows because people who sell there know high grade cards get more when they're graded,but i also think theres a ton of high grade cards that wont see the light of day or touch a graders hand anytime soon because the current owners have no interest in selling. Supposedly theres still a large group of collectors that couldn't find this vintage board on their best day because they're computer illiterate or just don't own one.