Speaking of other esoteric Cabinets....Post 'em if you have 'em [Archive]

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03-08-2008, 02:58 PM

Posted By: Steve MurrayCabinet is mine. Four Base Hits is owned by that well known "Renowned Lurker". <img src="http://i52.photobucket.com/albums/g5/jacklitsch1/19th%20Century/SullivanStevensCabinet.jpg"> <img src="http://i52.photobucket.com/albums/g5/jacklitsch1/19th%20Century/sullivan4.jpg">

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03-08-2008, 03:00 PM

Posted By: Dan BrettaI'd post mine but they'd no longer be esoteric if I did....so I won't. <img src="/images/wink.gif" height=14 width=14>

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03-08-2008, 03:00 PM

Posted By: scott brockelmanVery early Mordecai Brown <img src="http://members.auctionhawk.com/sb1/3515355-DSC00709.JPG"> <img src="http://members.auctionhawk.com/sb1/3515354-DSC00708.JPG">

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03-08-2008, 03:38 PM

Posted By: scott brockelman<img src="http://members.auctionhawk.com/sb1/3745233-DSC01958.JPG"> <img src="http://members.auctionhawk.com/sb1/3745232-DSC01957.JPG"> <img src="http://members.auctionhawk.com/sb1/3496119-chickering_hickman.jpg"> <img src="http://members.auctionhawk.com/sb1/3745231-DSC01956.JPG"> Scott

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03-08-2008, 03:39 PM

Posted By: Jeff LichtmanScott, that has to be the first appearance by Brown on any minor league issue, right?

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03-08-2008, 03:45 PM

Posted By: Anonymous<img src="http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a47/zouraspm/jnjscan0008.jpg"> <img src="http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a47/zouraspm/jnjscan0009.jpg">

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03-08-2008, 03:45 PM

Posted By: Dan BrettaI would say it has to be since the 1901 Terre Haute Hottentots were Brown's first professional team he played with. In 1902 he played for Omaha of the Western League. By 1903 he was a major leaguer.

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03-08-2008, 03:54 PM

Posted By: scott brockelmanAs Dan has outlined, yes, I believe so. Scott

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03-08-2008, 04:03 PM

Posted By: Joe D.<img src="http://www.internetville.com/stuff/photo.jpg">

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03-08-2008, 04:04 PM

Posted By: Rob D.Lol

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03-08-2008, 04:04 PM

Posted By: Jeff LichtmanJoe, you over at your grandmother's tonight? <img src="/images/happy.gif" height=14 width=14>

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03-08-2008, 04:37 PM

Posted By: Preece1<img src="http://www.network54.com/Realm/tmp/1205023039.JPG">

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03-08-2008, 06:41 PM

Posted By: PaulJoe McCarthy as a minor league player. <img src="http://www.network54.com/Realm/tmp/1205030471.JPG">

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03-08-2008, 06:48 PM

Posted By: Frank WakefieldA fine cabinet, Paul. What is it??

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03-08-2008, 06:56 PM

Posted By: Ted Zanidakis1904 Eastern League Champions including Rookie pictures of the following ballplayers that are in the T206 and T207 sets..... Bill Clymer Frank Delehanty Myron Grimshaw Rube Kissinger Frank La Porte Bill Nattress Al Shaw Stan Yerkes <img src="http://www.freephotoserver.com/v001/tedzan/b1904buffalo.jpg"> TED Z

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03-08-2008, 07:18 PM

Posted By: Dan BrettaHey Ted, your photo actually shows Otis Clymer (Not Bill) and Joe Delahanty (Not Frank).

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03-08-2008, 07:18 PM

Posted By: Frank WakefieldWonderful item, Ted!!! And Manager Stallings went on to win the 1914 World Series. He was quite a baseball man. Lots of good players with Buffalo, there.

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03-08-2008, 07:20 PM

Posted By: Al C.risafulli<img src="http://www.swingbattaswing.com/page1/files/page1-1012-full.jpg"> -Al

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03-08-2008, 08:10 PM

Posted By: Ted ZanidakisI checked my 1905 Spalding Base Ball Guide on these guys. I mistakenly ID'd Frank for Joe Delehanty. And, I should've known better for two reasons....the cameo does not look like Frank; and, besides Frank was only 19 years old in 1904. Now Clymer is another story. The T206 listing ID's Clymer as Bill and that's where I think there's a problem. The Clymer in the T206 set I think is actually Otis Clymer. If this is true you have discovered an error in the T206 listing. Thank you for setting me straight. TED Z

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03-09-2008, 04:09 AM

Posted By: Gary PassamonteFrom the Halper Collection and an early baseball cabinet. <img src="http://www.network54.com/Realm/tmp/1205057324.JPG">

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03-09-2008, 07:44 AM

Posted By: Phil GarryOne of the only appearances of HOF'er Frank Selee and also includes John Clarkson, Kid Nichols & King Kelly. This piece is actually a scorecard with the boxscore printed on back (I don't have a scan of the back available). <img src="http://i150.photobucket.com/albums/s120/bcbgcbrcb/SeleeFrank-2.jpg">

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03-09-2008, 08:55 AM

Posted By: Jon CanfieldTed - beautiful cabinet... wished I owned it. However, I do have some earlier images of Myron Moose Grimshaw. He lived in my home town so I have always been a Myron collector and have conversed many times with his grandson (now in his 80's and living in Florida). He still possesses photos of Myron in uniform dating back to '99.

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03-09-2008, 10:23 AM

Posted By: leonBruce sent me this to share with the board. Say what you want to but Bruce does have some lizard skin and is a good sport about letting things not get to him too much....And he does share more than many others do too......It's always nice to see awesome cards.... <img src="http://www.network54.com/Realm/tmp/1205079716.JPG">

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03-09-2008, 10:57 AM

Posted By: Kevin CummingsTo match my N172... <img src="http://members.aol.com/kkkkandp/deacon.jpg">

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03-09-2008, 11:41 AM

Posted By: Ken W.Have posted this before. Also from the Halper collection: <img src="http://i155.photobucket.com/albums/s290/triwak/15.jpg">

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03-09-2008, 12:00 PM

Posted By: Anonymous<img src="http://www.network54.com/Realm/tmp/1205085600.JPG">

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03-09-2008, 01:39 PM

Posted By: Bruce Babcock<img src="http://photos.imageevent.com/uffda51/featureditems/small/HWrightxHalper.jpg"> <img src="http://photos.imageevent.com/uffda51/20thcenturycabinetcards/small/SportLife%20Cab%20Wagner.JPG"> <img src="http://photos.imageevent.com/uffda51/20thcenturycabinetcards/small/OldMillcabH801-7-1910.jpg"> The Wagner is not technically a cabinet. Scott, do you own all of those Chickerings?!?

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03-09-2008, 02:07 PM

Posted By: Jeff LichtmanLeon, can you provide some background on Bruce's KB?

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03-09-2008, 04:15 PM

Posted By: scott brockelmanYes, Scott

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03-09-2008, 04:16 PM

Posted By: Jerry Spillman <center> <img src="http://www.network54.com/Realm/tmp/1205100807.JPG"> </center>

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03-09-2008, 04:39 PM

Posted By: leonSorry, the Dorskind Group will have to answer that. Whilst we would like to we believe it's in the best interest of all concerned to let them speak for themselves I can only add it was sent to me with no other description other than asking to post it for them.....regards

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03-09-2008, 05:00 PM

Posted By: bruce Dorskind Kalamazoo Team Cabinets are exceedingly rare, indeed. The first three we ever saw were in Sir Edward Wharton Tigar's London flat back in 1978. Two of those cards eventually were traded to Lew Lipset. Our example, one of two known was from Wharton Tigar's collection, albeit we added to our collection as the result of a complex purchase within the past decade. To the best our knowledge there are only 8 surviving examples Boston- 2 Detroit 1 Athletics 2 Philadelphia 2 Pittsburgh (the rarest of the team cards) 1 Baltimore-we have never seen a KB team cabinet There is one example in the Spalding collection at the New York Public Library. We believe it was the Philadelphia team. Sir Edward Wharton Tigar does describe these cards in the second edition of his infamous book, "The World Tobacco Index" Said Index (in four parts) is must reading for any serious historian of the hobby. Bruce Dorskind America's Toughest Want List

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03-09-2008, 05:22 PM

Posted By: PaulFrank, sorry I didn't respond sooner. The McCarthy is a T5 Pinkerton.

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03-09-2008, 05:30 PM

Posted By: CoreyRS.hanusNice cabinet Bruce. Your list is very accurate. Some minor modifications. To my knowledge the Spalding collection has only imperial cabinets, not cabinets. They are all of Philadelphia N.L. Also, I believe there are two known Detroit cabinets. BTW, adding imperial cabinets to the mix, besides what the Spalding collection has, there is one known imperial cabinet of Boston. Interestingly, inasmuch as its resolution exceeds that of the cabinet, it is probably the proof used to make both the cabinet and the card.

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03-09-2008, 05:48 PM

Posted By: Anonymous<img src="http://www.network54.com/Realm/tmp/1205106492.JPG">

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03-09-2008, 05:52 PM

Posted By: Jeff LichtmanRichard, when did you pick that KB up? I haven't seen one of those in an auction ever. What great cards.

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03-09-2008, 06:25 PM

Posted By: RichardThe Boston Kbat was from Mile High. I was underbidder <img src="/images/sad.gif" height=14 width=14>

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03-10-2008, 01:06 PM

Posted By: Bruce Babcock<img src="http://photos.imageevent.com/uffda51/19thcenturycabinetcards/ConlycabHaddock.jpg"> Anyone have a Conly cab to post?

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03-10-2008, 02:00 PM

Posted By: Paul S...how much I am totally enjoying this thread. Great idea and long overdue. Thanks everyone.

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03-10-2008, 02:37 PM

Posted By: Jerry RuckerI'm not absolutely sure what Esoteric means but I'm not missing a chance to post these. <img src="http://photos.imageevent.com/ruckers/hofcards/small/keefe1.jpg" width="247" height="320"> <img src="http://photos.imageevent.com/ruckers/hofcards/small/kelly.jpg" width="250" height="320"> <img src="http://photos.imageevent.com/ruckers/hofcards/small/ward1.jpg" width="243" height="320">

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03-10-2008, 06:31 PM

Posted By: Joe_G.Another great thread, filled with outstanding cabinets. Steve Murray - Neat comparison between the Sullivan cabinet and the Four Base Hits. Ever notice how the two differ near the bottom where the chest transitions to a cloudy background? Scott Brockelman - Amazing, I really like Bruce Babcock's Duffy, but your stash makes them appear collectable. Great group of cabinets. Love the K-Bat team cabinets. Corey, Bruce, do you believe there to be a 2nd Detroit K-Bat cabinet? I thought the recent Mastro example was the only known copy, discovered over the last year. Lastly, I needed to add at least a single Tomlinson to the thread. It's not the most thrilling Tomlinson, but one I haven't shared in the past. It features Henry Gruber in street clothes (Detroit Wolverine pitcher at time of picture). <img src="http://www.network54.com/Realm/tmp/1205195399.JPG"> Best Regards, Joe Gonsowski