T206 Green Cobb looks trimmed.

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Posted By: <b>Marty Ogelvie</b><p><P>I am still learning how to recognized trimmed cards from scans but this one looks obvious to me and it got into a PSA 2 slab!?</P><P>Am&nbsp;I missing something here?</P><P><A href="http://tinyurl.com/2vp737"><STRONG>http://tinyurl.com/2vp737</STRONG><BR></A></P><P><BR>&nbsp;</P><P><BR>martyOgelvie<BR>nyyankeecards.com</P>

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Posted By: <b>Matt</b><p>Marty - it's clearly off center - what causes you to think it is trimmed?

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Posted By: <b>dennis</b><p>it is almost impossible to tell if a card is trimmed from a scan,(unless it's in a pro holder). opions differ on what is trimmed and what isn't. that is why 3rd party grading is so popular. if it is in a slab it is ok. <img src="/images/happy.gif" height=14 width=14>

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Posted By: <b>Anthony S.</b><p>Actually, the preponderance of miscut green cobbs with large bottom borders and short top borders has been discussed on this board in the past. If I remember correctly, it was because they were positioned on the bottom card of the card sheets. There was even a thread a couple months back in which several board members posted their green cobbs to illustrate how common that cut was.

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Posted By: <b>Matt</b><p>Anthony - not questioning that Green Cobbs are prone to OC cuts, but this reasoning "it was because they were positioned on the bottom card of the card sheets. " doesn't make sense to me as the cards were in vertical strips of the same player; Cobb would have been under another Cobb.

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Posted By: <b>Marty Ogelvie</b><p>The top border looks too short (obviously) but the top right looks like the corner was snipped.

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Posted By: <b>Anthony S.</b><p>I may well have the exact reason wrong, but I did find the link I was thinking of. As always Ted provides some interesting insights into the T206 set.<br /><br />edited to add: It was the Green Cobb with Piedmont 150 back which Ted specifically cited as often being miscut with wide bottom borders and short top borders. The card Marty linked to start this thread is a Piedmont 150 back.<br /><br /><a href="http://www.network54.com/Forum/153652/message/1196605872/Those+darn+cards%2C+consistently+O-C%2C+what%27s+yours" target="_new" rel="nofollow"><a href="http://www.network54.com/Forum/153652/message/1196605872/Those+darn+cards%2C+consistently+O-C%2C+what%27s+yours</a" target="_new" rel="nofollow">http://www.network54.com/Forum/153652/message/1196605872/Those+darn+cards%2C+consistently+O-C%2C+what%27s+yours</a</a>>+-

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Posted By: <b>Danny Grimes</b><p>good point Matt, i think Ted Z covered the Cobb Green Factory Cuts months back.

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Posted By: <b>Brian Weisner</b><p><img src="http://i138.photobucket.com/albums/q257/hogan6g/Scan0039.jpg">

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Posted By: <b>Ted Zanidakis</b><p>You will find about 90% of the Green Cobb's printed with PIEDMONT 150 backs are consistently<br /> o/c to the top border. This is also true for many of the Green Cobb's with SWEET CAPORAL 350 <br /> backs.<br /><br />The better centered Green Cobb's are invariably found with.....<br /><br />PIEDMONT 350<br />SWEET CAPORAL 150<br />SOVEREIGN 150<br />HINDU <br /><br /><br /><img src="http://www.freephotoserver.com/v001/tedzan/cobbcobbps.jpg"><br /><br /><br />TED Z

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Posted By: <b>Dave S</b><p>I will not argue with the characteristic OC of the Piedmonts...<br />But I agree with Marty that the TR corner of the card appears clipped moreso than natural wear...

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Posted By: <b>Brian Weisner</b><p><br /> Hi Dave<br /> No Doubt about it.... My card is WAY.... Oversized. In fact its so large it wouldn't fit into a PSA Holder... Be well Brian

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Posted By: <b>Jeff Lichtman</b><p>Ted, regarding the Piedmont 150s--you are right again!<br /><br /><img src="http://www.network54.com/Realm/tmp/1201743252.JPG"> <img src="http://www.network54.com/Realm/tmp/1201743268.JPG">

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Posted By: <b>Ted Zanidakis</b><p>Where did you find that.....COOL COBB ?<br /><br />I might even consider trading my Broad Leaf Chase for that one.<br /><br />TED Z

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Posted By: <b>Jeff Lichtman</b><p>Ted, I think it came from a recent Mastro auction. My only green Cobb!

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Posted By: <b>Brian Weisner</b><p><br /> Hi Jeff,<br /> I layed off of the Cobb just for you.... But I will tell Ted what you paid... Stay warn Brian

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Posted By: <b>Jeff Lichtman</b><p>Brian -- thanks and thanks! When Ted finds out how much I paid for it he'll be throwing in a few more Chases!

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Posted By: <b>Brian Weisner</b><p><br /> And I promised I'd never help a Duke fan.... smiley... Be well Brian

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Posted By: <b>Andy</b><p>Really? You think a card in a PRO holder would be trimmed? Denny Walsh doesn't think so, at least not when selling them.

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Posted By: <b>Marty Ogelvie</b><p><P>Jeff,</P><P>That is a very cool looking Cobb.. </P><P>Its funny how a micut where you don't see any border is not very attractive but one that far off looks really cool!</P>