1908 Rochester Postcard - Baseball

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Posted By: <b>Tim Dudley</b><p>My parents gave me an old postcard of the 1908 Rochester Baseball Team. The reason they had it was because one of the players pictured was a cousin and was one of the most successful athletes ever to come out of their area of Kentucky.<br /><br />I am trying to find out more information about this postcard and what its value may be. I have some digital pictures of it that I will send to anyone that may be able to help. I would truly appreciate anyone that would take an interest in helping me out.<br /><br />Thanks -<br /><br />Tim

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Posted By: <b>Dan Bretta</b><p>Which one is your cousin?<br /><br /><img src="http://www.lanternpress.com/images/ebay/5500-700.jpg">

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Posted By: <b>Max Weder</b><p>Not sure if he was there in 1912, but I believe this is the Rochester team from 1912<br /><br /><img src="http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1231/901539348_2c0783060e.jpg"><br /><br />Max

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Posted By: <b>Tim Dudley</b><p>His name was Eros Bollivar "Cy" Barger. He was a pitcher and in June of 1910, he pitched Brooklyn to a 14-inning win over the Chicago Cubs. He also drove in all of the runs that day including the winning run. Here is the postcard in question.<br /><img src="http://www.network54.com/Realm/tmp/1198288531.JPG">

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Posted By: <b>Dan Bretta</b><p>Nice postcard...and one I've not seen before. Composite postcards of early minor league teams are highly desirable and usually go in the $200+ range especially for cards showing future and former major leaguers.<br /><br />I'm sure you already know this, but your cousin has many prewar issue baseball cards.

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Posted By: <b>Tim Dudley</b><p>I just recently purchased a 1911 T-205 Gold Border card of E.B. "Cy" Barger. There were two issued for that series of cards...one with a "full" B on his cap and one with only "half" of the B on his cap. I know he had a couple of other cards issued but I am not sure where I can find them. Any ideas as to where I can begin searching?

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Posted By: <b>Steve Murray</b><p>JC has four Rochesters, 1908 and 1909 on his wonderful website. I recall that I may have sold him one of them several years ago.<br /><br />With all due respect to Dan (Hi Dan <img src="/images/happy.gif" height=14 width=14>) $400-$600 is closer to price on these in nice condition.<br /><br />I know JC won't mind so here is the link to his Rochesters:<br /><br /><a href="http://www.zmotive.com/gallery/Postcards?page=15" target="_new" rel="nofollow">http://www.zmotive.com/gallery/Postcards?page=15</a>

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Posted By: <b>Tim Dudley</b><p>Steve, <br /><br />Thanks for the lead on the website for the postcards. I was able to find the same exact postcard that I have. I left a comment and hope to hear back from them soon.<br /><br />Thanks Again for the help and Merry Christmas,<br /><br />Tim Dudley

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Posted By: <b>Dan Bretta</b><p>I was just giving a low end estimate on minor league composite postcards....I believe a Superior, WI team card just sold on ebay for right around 300+...not long ago there was a Little Rock postcard with Tris Speaker that went for $900 IIRC and every once in a while you see one of the PCL composites go for $1,000+. Wasn't really trying to give a specific price on this Rochester as I have no clue what it would sell for on the open market...I just know it's more than $200. <img src="/images/happy.gif" height=14 width=14>

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Posted By: <b>Bruce Babcock</b><p>Nice postcard.<br /><br />Here's another Barger.<br /><img src="http://photos.imageevent.com/uffda51/t207heaven/websize/T207Barger.jpg"><br /><br />The 2007 Standard Catalog of Baseball Cards lists this card at $40, with prices of $70 in ex condition and $200 in near mint. Barger is not one of the tougher cards in T207. You may find one on ebay with a little patience.<br /><br />This is the only Barger card I have. I'm sure other forum members will chime in with other issues and scans.

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Posted By: <b>Tim Dudley</b><p>Do you owe that Cy Barger card? I just saw a website that has 18 x 24 inch reproductions and that was one of the images. What else do you know about the card you displayed here?<br /><br />Tim

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Posted By: <b>Dan Bretta</b><p>Tim, as near as I can tell these are the issues that Cy Barger appears in:<br /><br />1910 Domino Discs<br />1911 Helmar Stamps<br />1912 Sweet Caporal Pin<br />1914 Cracker Jack<br />1915 Cracker Jack<br />1914 Piedmont Stamps<br />M116<br />T202<br />T205<br />T206<br />T207<br />T213

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Posted By: <b>Rhett Yeakley</b><p>Tim, this is the list of items he appears on from my records...<br /><br />Barger, Eros B. (Cy)<br />•1914 Cracker Jack 141<br />•1915 Cracker Jack 141<br />•1910/11 M116<br />•1910/12 P2 Pins<br />•1912 Plow’s Candy (E300)<br />•1909/12 PX7 Domino Discs<br />•1911 S74 Silks Colored<br />•1910/11 S74 Silks White<br />•1911 T5 463<br />•1912 T202 (2)<br />•1911 T205 full “B”<br />•1911 T205 partial “B”<br />•1909/11 T206<br />•1912 T207<br />•1914 T213-2<br />•1914 T330-2 full “B”<br />•1914 T330-2 partial “B”<br />•1911 T332 <br />•1902/11 W600<br /><br />Hope this helps,<br />-Rhett<br /><br /><img src="http://www.geocities.com/rhettmatthew_37/t213barger.JPG"><br />

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Posted By: <b>Rob Ray</b><p>...Don't mean to hijcak,but my mom's uncle and your cousin were pitchers together for a while...my gr-unc's name was Nap Rucker...Mr Barger and Mr Rucker both pitched for the same Dodgers staff(or Superbas,as they were known at the time)from 1910-1912. They were also around the same age...Small world.<br />Love the postcard!<br />Rob Brooklyn, NY

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Posted By: <b>Tim Dudley</b><p>Just wanted to thank all of you for your help on this. I never imagined that I would get so much input.<br /><br />I would like to wish each one of you a Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year.<br /><br />Thanks Again,<br /><br />Tim Dudley

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Posted By: <b>Jeff Lichtman</b><p>Nap Rucker was a damn good baseball player and won 20 games at least once or twice if I recall. He was a top pitcher of his era and the best pitcher on some lousy Brooklyn teams of which he was the first or second best player (Zach Wheat being the other). I believe both Barger and Wheat played with Casey Stengal for a bit as well.