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12-15-2007, 06:55 PM

Posted By: Jason LWe have a Best Pickup of 2007 thread. Anyone want to share their most interesting or exciting research discovery or piece of learning related to vintage baseball/baseball cards this past year? mine would include: learning the nuances of collecting the T206 and T207 Cubs cards, a few discoveries regarding the careers of my MLB-playing cousins, and a fun little jaunt through some books to learn about Larry, the mascot dog of the Cleveland Indians during the 1910's...(who is picture don their T200 card) thought this topic might serve as interesting summary to our year on the Board

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12-15-2007, 08:04 PM

Posted By: Chris I guess my biggest discovery would be the 1930's Rogers Peet Sport Album cards are not from the 1930's but from late 1929. In fact the promotion ended before Christmas 1929. The cards are seldom offered and the albums that contained the cards are considered quite rare. The interesting fact is that every member of the Ropeco club(Rogers Peet youth magazine club)was eligible to receive the album and the first four cards of the set. Rare to see the cards or album, but the most interesting fact is that there were some 16,000 members in the Ropeco club at the time Edited for grammar.

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12-15-2007, 08:50 PM

Posted By: Jon CanfieldFor me personally, I was most intrigued by the complete W555 "camera" box discovery.

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12-15-2007, 08:57 PM

Posted By: leonI agree that W555 box was great. The person who won it in auction paid up for it too....Also, not sure if it was this year but the Blanke-Wennker Candy Company Nadja box....which put the mfg of Nadja at that company and was yet unknown (I believe). I am still grateful on that one!! regards

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12-15-2007, 09:07 PM

Posted By: RhysI found an original 1898 Cameo Pepsin Gum Pin Wrapper which gives some insight into the product and distribution. Rhys

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12-15-2007, 09:08 PM

Posted By: Dan BrettaI guess my own personal research that I did would be: 1) The discovery of JL Wilkinson on the Lady's Champs postcard. 2) Identifying George 'Chief' Johnson on one of the Nebraska Indians postcards 3) Finding a card of Duff Cooley and as for memorabilia - finding what I believe to be the only copy in private hands of "The Nebraska Indians: A Complete History" 1900 by Guy W. Green. The only other copy that I know of is a 1903 edition that resides in the Yale Library of rare books and documents.

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12-15-2007, 09:10 PM

Posted By: Dan BrettaRhys....how about that postcard you won on ebay last night? I was the third underbidder...I think you beat out Dave Eskenazi on it. I know you didn't "discover" it, but you are now the owner of it and I don't believe the ebay seller knew the significance of it.

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12-15-2007, 09:22 PM

Posted By: Jon CanfieldLeon - the Nadja box was last year (not that it matters too much). Rhys - did you ever post a scan of the wrapper? I would love to see it.

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12-16-2007, 05:21 AM

Posted By: Greg ThebergeThis would be my most exciting "discovery/research" for the year. As some will recall, besides being a Red Sox collector, I'm also a heavy collector of Brewery advertising from Rhode Island (a hobby that I share with my dad), a large portion of which is pre-WWI. That being said, I've always been fascinated with seeing Brewery advertising at Ballparks, especially those in Boston. While there are some great photos of the Huntington Avenue grounds showing advertisements for Red Fox Ale, Pfaff's Beer, Harvard Ale and Roessle Beer (most residing in the Boston Public Library), I've never seen a pre-WWI photo of Fenway Park advertising beer after many years of looking....until the recent Mastro auction. They just sold a great panoramic view of Fenway Park during the 1918 World's Series (I wish I had an extra Ten grand hanging around to get it, but oh well... <img src="/images/sad.gif" height=14 width=14> ) While this is an awesome photo in itself, one of it's highlights to me is the detail of the left field wall. There, clear as a bell, is an advertisement for Fenway Beer and Supreme Ale, both of which were brewed by the Fenway Breweries Co. (1915-1918). This brewery also had an ad in a 1915 World's Series Scorebook I own. The brewery, despite it's name, was not affiliated with the ballpark (Fenway is a section of Boston, it's not just a ballpark - some people pay a premium for Fenway candy bottles because of it's "association" with the Sox - it had nothing to do with it). <img src="http://i189.photobucket.com/albums/z192/HiNeighbor_2007/69576b.jpg"> Finally, a Beer ad in Fenway! My personal accomplishment this year, along the same line, was finally obtaining a photo of Nuf Ced McGreevy's 3rd Base tavern. While historically important to a Red Sox fan in itself, it also shows some great advertising from local Boston breweries (A great porcelain sign from the Reuter & Company brewery hanging to the right of the First World's Series poster, and advertsements for Sterling Ale and Old Vienna Beer under the bunting on top of the roof, from the A.J. Houghton and Co., Vienna Brewery in Boston (1870-1918). <img src="http://i189.photobucket.com/albums/z192/HiNeighbor_2007/untitled.jpg"> Anyway, I'm probably the only one in here that would be fascinated by this stuff, or even notice it, but I guess it's a genetic flaw on my part. <img src="/images/happy.gif" height=14 width=14> Great topic by the way! Happy Holidays guys, and, as Curt Gowdy used to say, "Hi Neighbor, Have a 'Gansett" Greg Edited to include that this picture of Fenway wouldn't be considered "pre-WWI" after all. It would be considered "WWI", my bad.

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12-16-2007, 06:22 AM

Posted By: Joe_G.Some great discoveries already listed. With my collecting bias, I'd have to list the complete collection of Tomlinson cabinets at the Detroit Public Library that were discovered while I was researching them for the Old Cardboard article. A collecting friend, Bill Anderson, tipped me off about their existance. I had previously proposed a checklist covering 14 subjects and the DPL collection verified this. It was also the first time I was treated to seeing some of the poses (after collecting them for 17 years). Second would be the N690-1 Kalamazoo Bat (black mount) Detroit team cabinet. While it is well out of my league, it was just neat to see it exists. Best Regards, Joe Gonsowski

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12-16-2007, 06:50 AM

Posted By: boxingcardmanBabe Ruth-Rogers Hornsby-Mickey Walker-Georges Carpentier Walter Johnson-Al Simmons-Gene Tunney-Benny Leonard Eugene Criqui-Dave Shade-Joe Judge-Ty Cobb Jack Dempsey-Rocky Kansas-Heinie Groh-Bucky Harris <a href="http://imageevent.com/exhibitman/interestingexhibitcards" target="_new" rel="nofollow">http://imageevent.com/exhibitman/interestingexhibitcards</a> Sic Gorgiamus Allos Subjectatos Nunc

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12-16-2007, 06:57 AM

Posted By: Steve MurrayEarlier this year Dave F. (thanks Dave) put me on to this cabinet on ebay. I was able to determine that it pictured the Springfield MA Ponies ca 1906-1908. Makes a nice companion to my faux Rose postcard of Luby pictured back row second from the left. <img src="http://i52.photobucket.com/albums/g5/jacklitsch1/Springfield%20Rose/Ponies1905.jpg"> <img src="http://i52.photobucket.com/albums/g5/jacklitsch1/Springfield%20Rose/LubyMine.jpg">

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12-16-2007, 09:12 AM

Posted By: RhysHi Dan. I have not beat out Dave on anything that I know of in about 7-8 years of ebay and then I got him twice in as many nights. Dave is a great guy but that surprised me a bit. I still have to get the postcard but think it is a pretty significant considering his recent Hall of Fame induction. Take Care Rhys

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12-16-2007, 09:15 AM

Posted By: Max WederThe most exciting discovery was not card related, but photo related. At our local SABR meeting, a women walked in unannounced with 17 panormas from the 1910s, including one from the Chicago American Giants with Rube Foster. It will be in REA's next auction.

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12-17-2007, 04:26 AM

Posted By: T206Collector...but my fascination with autographed T206 cards and where they come from is really my story for 2007 (beyond my acquisitions of Plank and Magie). I have recently discovered a new vein of signed cards from an old autograph collection and am discussing with the old timer how he got them. (If I am able to acquire any, I will post them to my website and describe the collector a bit.) - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Visit <a href="http://www.t206collector.com" target="_new" rel="nofollow">http://www.t206collector.com</a> for my T206 blog, card galleries, articles and more!

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12-17-2007, 06:12 PM

Posted By: Jason LThis year, I expanded overseas! After winning these on Ebay, I was able to learn quite a bit about Australian vintage tobacco issues, and learned that the back on one of these is extremely rare. <img src="http://i99.photobucket.com/albums/l289/smallcapdaddy/VintageAussies-back.jpg"> <img src="http://i99.photobucket.com/albums/l289/smallcapdaddy/VintageAussies.jpg">

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12-18-2007, 08:05 AM

Posted By: Ken W.Hey Rhys and Dan, Who's on this postcard you guys are talking about? One of the recently inducted HOF execs? Let us in on it. Ken

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12-18-2007, 08:13 AM

Posted By: Dan BrettaI will defer to Rhys as he was the winner of the item.....I thought maybe it would fly under the radar, and I think it did to an extent, but not as well as I would have liked. <img src="/images/wink.gif" height=14 width=14>

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12-19-2007, 09:46 AM

Posted By: Bill StoneOne of my distant relatives was Paul Oscayan. His obituary in the New York Times for July 10, 1930 said he was President of The Star Ball Player Company. Naturally that aroused my curiosity and further research revealed that he had invented the Star Ball Player Scoreboard that simulated the progress of a ball game. His patent for this device was issued in 1919. A New York Times article on October 5, 1919 reported that 10,000 fans " watched" the final game of the World Series in Times Square on the Star Ball Player Scoreboard. It was an interesting bit of family history.

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12-19-2007, 10:23 AM

Posted By: BillNot sure it applies here but I did FINALLY get the Veterans Administration to award me 100% permanent disability. This has been a battle since 1992 and finally reached the end. It sucks at 42 yrs old but at least I don't have to worry about making ends meet!!!

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12-19-2007, 11:09 AM

Posted By: J HullThis was the most interesting thing I found this year. An uncut sheet of Piedmont cigarette packaging, dating from 1912-1925? Still haven't been able to establish that for sure. <img src="http://www.jimonym.com/Sheet1.jpg"> <img src="http://www.jimonym.com/Sheet2.jpg">

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12-19-2007, 12:13 PM

Posted By: RhysOne of Last Years Negro League inductees. J L Wilkinson. He is wearing his "All Nations" jersey but the lettering which runs doen his uniform is tough to see in my scan. Likely the only individual "card" ever made of him but Dan has a Woman's team postcard with him on it. Rhys <img src="http://www.network54.com/Realm/tmp/1198008600.JPG">

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12-19-2007, 12:22 PM

Posted By: Dan BrettaGreat postcard Rhys!!! It was actually the key to my research that led to discovering Wilkinson on the women's team card. I just didn't want to mention that until the auction was over. <img src="/images/happy.gif" height=14 width=14>

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12-19-2007, 07:41 PM

Posted By: Mike McculloughWas finding out that the 1930 Ruth Goudey Calendar Card was almost real.. All kidding aside, as a lurker I have learned quite a bit just by kicking back, relaxing, and reading some great posts by some very knowledgeable collectors/investors/speculators/dealers.... For me it would be to hard to narrow the answer down to just one... Thanks Net 54 members!!

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12-20-2007, 03:41 PM

Posted By: David RI discovered some T206s with a laxative advertisement overprint on the back. Trae helped me figure out that some of them actually fit together. He also found an original copy of the laxative advertisement postcard that is printed on the back. <img src="http://www.network54.com/Realm/tmp/1198107329.JPG"> <img src="http://www.network54.com/Realm/tmp/1198107405.JPG">

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12-20-2007, 03:50 PM

Posted By: BradExtremely rear Canadian type card from Vancouver B.C. a semi-pro team sponsored by a Sawmill at the time called "Hanbury", Recently a 2nd never before seen back variation "The Perfect Food" has been discovered. This was probably a second series due to the success of the 1st promotion that Hanbury sponsored. These cards were printed on different card stock “sepia” and were cut to the same dimensions as the 1st series, approximately 2¼” - 15/8”. There are only three of this cards known to exist with this variation. The most commonly known back variation to the set, "Real Good Ice Cream", was printed on black & white card stock. I wish kept a "The Perfect Food" type <img src="/images/sad.gif" height=14 width=14> <a href="http://www.sgccardregistry.com/index.asp?action=3&setcategory=1&setid=698&usetid=1942" target="_new" rel="nofollow">http://www.sgccardregistry.com/index.asp?action=3&setcategory=1&setid=698&usetid=1942</a>