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12-17-2007, 08:07 AM

Posted By: leonHere is a contest for all of us looking at the board on a nice Sunday morning. If these questions get answered too quickly (today), I will have another contest this coming week which will be "guess the final price", so even more folks can play. The winner will get this neat Ruth Stereoscope below....btw, there is a bonus question with this quiz. IF the winner guesses the bonus question right too, then they get $50 extra. You can decide if you want to wait and try to get the bonus or stick with the stereoscope. IF you try for the bonus and someone else answers all 3 questions before you then you lose both prizes. If they only answer the 1st 2 questions, then you still win as you were first. I will be the final decision on the contest in case of any issues. regards The questions are: 1. Who published the pamphlet "Directory of the J.R Burdick Collection" 2. Who wrote the introduction in this pamphlet? bonus question*3. What association do I have with the publisher? Good luck !!!! <img src="http://www.network54.com/Realm/tmp/1197821174.JPG"> <img src="http://www.network54.com/Realm/tmp/1197821190.JPG"> edited questions to be exact....and changed the bonus from author to publisher

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12-17-2007, 08:12 AM

Posted By: Max Weder1. A. Hyatt Mayor 2. Mayor William O'Dwyer of NYC 3. The relationship I'm sure was "just friends" Max

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12-17-2007, 08:18 AM

Posted By: leonVery close but not quite.....email me privately if you have info I don't, or to discuss. (I won't give you the EXACT answer).... I have the Directory in hand.....

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12-17-2007, 08:20 AM

Posted By: leon1. What person published the pamphlet?

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12-17-2007, 08:20 AM

Posted By: barrysloate1) Jefferson Burdick 2) A. Hyatt Mayor 3) secret love affair

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12-17-2007, 08:21 AM

Posted By: Max WederGah! it's that double use of "mayor". I should learn how to read, or use google better.

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12-17-2007, 08:25 AM

Posted By: leonKeep going....I will show you the answers when someone gets it. Ya'll are close. On the bonus question you will need to be a little more specific. When I tell the answers you will understand. SO, who was publisher on the 1st question...and on the 2nd who did the "Introduction"? ....it's in black and white when I show you....thanks for thinking. Also, what better way to do a question than snooping around info related to the grandfather of collecting? regards edited to add....I have edited the initial questions to be exact....I had to do this imo....I needed to make this a tad difficult...

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12-17-2007, 08:29 AM

Posted By: Max WederLeon 1. Metropolitan Museum of Art 2. A. Hyatt Mayor 3. Mr. Mayor is your second cousin, twice removed., or perhaps you have Burdick's personal copy of the Directory

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12-17-2007, 08:31 AM

Posted By: barrysloateThe introduction was definitely Mayor; I don't see a publisher listed on my copy unless you consider it the Metropolitan Museum, however Burdick is credited with writing the Directory. And was I actually close on #3? It was a pure guess, of course. I have no idea.

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12-17-2007, 08:32 AM

Posted By: leonI almost want to give it to you for making me sit here and laugh...... Again, I do have the pamphlet so I think I know what the answers are....please do re-read the questions as I rephrased them to be more precise.

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12-17-2007, 08:33 AM

Posted By: Matt1) Burdick and Mayor 2) Mayor

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12-17-2007, 08:33 AM

Posted By: leonThe publisher of my pamphlet, the original Directory, is not the Met...

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12-17-2007, 08:34 AM

Posted By: Max WederThe only thing I can guess for #1 is <a href="http://www.lulu.com" target="_new" rel="nofollow">http://www.lulu.com</a> and your copy was published in 2007?

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12-17-2007, 08:35 AM

Posted By: barrysloateI bought my copy from the Museum many years ago but I guess it is a reprint. There is no publisher listed.

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12-17-2007, 08:35 AM

Posted By: Max Weder1. Yale University Press, then, which sometimes published Metropolitan books (or alternatively, Uncle Sal, from Gutenberg Street in the Bronx... <img src="http://www.juliantrubin.com/bigten/bigtenimages/gutenbergpress.jpg"> )

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12-17-2007, 08:38 AM

Posted By: leon<img src="http://www.network54.com/Realm/tmp/1197823110.JPG">

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12-17-2007, 08:41 AM

Posted By: Max WederMy final guess 1. From the Harlequin Press <img src="http://images.darkhorse.com/covers/300/10/10957.jpg">

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12-17-2007, 08:41 AM

Posted By: barrysloateMy copy has the identical cover. But I'm sure it's been reprinted. Is yours an original?

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12-17-2007, 08:43 AM

Posted By: leonI don't see a date on mine but from the feel of it and the look of it I would say it's 40'ish years old.....so it might be the original...

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12-17-2007, 08:47 AM

Posted By: Max WederLeon The publisher is "New York?"... attached is definitive proof from the Museum's on-line catalogue <img src="/images/happy.gif" height=14 width=14> <img src="http://www.network54.com/Realm/tmp/1197834270.JPG"> edited scan size

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12-17-2007, 08:51 AM

Posted By: leonI said "I will be the final decision on the contest in case of any issues. regards" and as much as I want you to win it I don't think the city of New York published it....I see what you are saying but that is not the answer I am looking for....You can see my copy above. On the very 1st page, at the bottom, it has who published it.....regards

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12-17-2007, 08:51 AM

Posted By: Mattthe LOC also says New York, but methinks that's not who leon is looking for...

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12-17-2007, 08:57 AM

Posted By: Max Weder(I think I'm going to have to work on finding the "sardonic" emoticon to insert in my emails) How many publishers can I think of? Simon & Schuster

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12-17-2007, 08:58 AM

Posted By: leonThe publisher is a person....very well known but only in certain circles....

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12-17-2007, 08:59 AM

Posted By: barrysloateMax- I think Leon is saying the answers to his three questions are anything he wants them to be...I think he is running this contest like a police state! <img src="/images/happy.gif" height=14 width=14>

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12-17-2007, 09:02 AM

Posted By: Max WederSir Edward Wharton Tigar

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12-17-2007, 09:02 AM

Posted By: Matt1) Nostalgia Press 2) Mayor 3) They published your first article

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12-17-2007, 09:05 AM

Posted By: Rob Dewolf1. Stephen King 2. Lee Behrens 3. A relation to both you and Peter C. Maybe this is what Leon is "looking for."

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12-17-2007, 09:07 AM

Posted By: leonActually, I am "looking" for the answers. As I said, I will "show and tell" when/if someone gets them correct. If this was easy it would have been over immediately. It's tough on purpose....

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12-17-2007, 09:08 AM

Posted By: Max WederRob Here is Stephen King's first baseball writing from the IO magazine , and I think it's one of his first published works (sorry for the small scan) <img src="http://www.stephen-king.de/zeitschriften/bilder/io70.jpeg"> I couldn't find reference to Leon anywhere in there <img src="/images/happy.gif" height=14 width=14>

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12-17-2007, 09:10 AM

Posted By: barrysloateThere are no answers to this contest...it is a riddle wrapped in an enigma.

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12-17-2007, 09:12 AM

Posted By: Max WederLeon With all options exhausted, we are left with the inexorable conclusion that the publisher was the Trucker Boy of the Trucker Boy Find.

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12-17-2007, 09:13 AM

Posted By: Rob DewolfMax, Do you have a link you could share with more info on that? The scan is kind of small. Tom Gordon I'm guessing is his most mainstream baseball-related work, but I'd be interested in reading more. Thanks.

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12-17-2007, 09:13 AM

Posted By: MattIt's going to be Seymour somebody since leon is "looking" and I'm guessing that this person taught Leon at some point (perhaps a college professor) and hence the reference to "show and tell." I hope that helps somebody - I've reached the end of the internet...

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12-17-2007, 09:16 AM

Posted By: Max WederRob Will do. I have a copy somewhere here that I will scan and send. If I recall correctly, King's story is only a few pages. Max

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12-17-2007, 09:19 AM

Posted By: leonFor those that have been on the board at least a few years it will all come back to you when you hear more.....

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12-17-2007, 09:22 AM

Posted By: Max WederJohn DeFlores

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12-17-2007, 09:23 AM

Posted By: barrysloatePreston Orem?

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12-17-2007, 09:29 AM

Posted By: AnonymousIsn't Sir Edward Wharton Tigar Bertie Wooster's funny uncle, you know the one with a thing for waitresses, in the P. G. Wodehouse stories? Did Wodehouse create the Bruces as well? It's all starting to make sense.

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12-17-2007, 09:30 AM

Posted By: barrysloateWalter Corson!!!

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12-17-2007, 09:46 AM

Posted By: leonGreat guess....but not correct....

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12-17-2007, 10:00 AM

Posted By: barrysloateI'm out of guesses. I thought I got it right last time. You win! <img src="/images/happy.gif" height=14 width=14>

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12-17-2007, 10:17 AM

Posted By: Max Weder Rob Here's a larger scan <img src="http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2249/2115734362_b51a65051b.jpg"> One page poem by Stephen King called Brooklyn August

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12-17-2007, 10:17 AM

Posted By: Dave Hornish1) Metropolitan Museum of Darwaings & Prints 2) Mayor & Burdick 3) Leon did some programming for the Met

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12-17-2007, 10:19 AM

Posted By: Max WederFrank Nagy. Sold Leon some cards when Leon was 15

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12-17-2007, 10:27 AM

Posted By: leonYa'll old timers (of the board) will smile when you eventually here the answer...

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12-17-2007, 10:34 AM

Posted By: Max WederBill Heitman. (Max's philosophy in guessing: one million monkeys typing for one million years will eventually produce Shakespeare)

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12-17-2007, 10:35 AM

Posted By: Randy TrierweilerIts not my old buddy Buck Barker is it? Randy

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12-17-2007, 10:43 AM

Posted By: leonall good guesses....but not yet...this one is not impossible as the one from a long time ago was....If no one gets it another hour or so then I might give a hint....

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12-17-2007, 11:07 AM

Posted By: Max WederCharles Bray

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12-17-2007, 11:16 AM

Posted By: boxingcardmanThe intro was written by A. Hyatt Mayor. Burdick himself wrote the explanation of the directory. Publisher: Hobby Publications...I think Sic Gorgiamus Allos Subjectatos Nunc

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12-17-2007, 11:24 AM

Posted By: leonShould I say when someone gets at least one answer correct? The only thing is, then that spoils it for anyone else wanting to guess, as they would know the first answer?

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12-17-2007, 11:26 AM

Posted By: boxingcardmanNo one published it. Sic Gorgiamus Allos Subjectatos Nunc

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12-17-2007, 11:32 AM

Posted By: J LevineMayor and Burdick both wrote an introduction for the pamphlet. I am fairly certain that it was published by the New York Metropolitan Museum of Art but since the city owns the museum I think Adam may be right and it was published by New York. I think that Burdick had asked Lionel Carter for advice on how to mount the cards in the collection, I think Leon asked Lionel Carter how to unmount cards in his collection. Joshua

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12-17-2007, 11:33 AM

Posted By: leonLike I said above.....There is a name (large) on the first page, at the bottom, of who I think published it. It's where publishers are normally made known, I believe. At any rate it's a large name of who put this darn pamphlet out that I have. Hope this helps, regards <a href="http://plugin.smileycentral.com/http%253A%252F%252Fwww.smileycentral.com%252F%253F partner%253DZSzeb008%255FZN%2526i%253D23%252F23%25 5F33%255F10%2526feat%253Dprof/page.html" target="_blank"><img src="http://smileys.smileycentral.com/cat/23/23_33_10.gif" alt="SmileyCentral.com" border="0"><img border="0" src="http://plugin.smileycentral.com/http%253A%252F%252Fimgfarm%252Ecom%252Fimages%252F nocache%252Ftr%252Ffw%252Fsmiley%252Fsocial%252Egi f%253Fi%253D23%252F23_33_10/image.gif"></a>......

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12-17-2007, 11:42 AM

Posted By: leonI had my wife, the English major who reads 3 novels a week, look at this. She said the name I am wanting, as publisher, is in fact who published this pamphlet....

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12-17-2007, 11:48 AM

Posted By: Max WederSo if the museum is owned by the city, maybe the mayor's name at that time? Robert F. Wagner Jr. January 1, 1954 – December 31, 1965 John V. Lindsay January 1, 1966 –

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12-17-2007, 12:06 PM

Posted By: Dave HaasLionel Carter a. Hyatt Mayor

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12-17-2007, 12:09 PM

Posted By: Al SimeoneLionel Carter?

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12-17-2007, 12:28 PM

Posted By: leonNot Mr.Carter but that's a good guess....

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12-17-2007, 12:50 PM

Posted By: Matt1) Robert Wagner 2) Hyatt Mayor

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12-17-2007, 01:04 PM

Posted By: MattBuck Barker? John Wagner?

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12-17-2007, 01:05 PM

Posted By: barrysloateRingo Starr? Okay, we're not going to guess, so why don't you just tell us.

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12-17-2007, 01:19 PM

Posted By: Max WederHam Hyatt Bart Starr

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12-17-2007, 01:51 PM

Posted By: Frank Wakefield1 J. R. Burdick 2 A. Hyatt Mayor 3 T231 Fan

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12-17-2007, 02:14 PM

Posted By: 1880nonsportsWoodrow "Woody" Gelman? Perhaps it's someone whose name appears in one of leon's threads about the golden age hobby icons and card collecting that he (and I/others) enjoy reading about?

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12-17-2007, 02:20 PM

Posted By: PaulTechnically Max wins. He was the "first one to answer in this post".

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12-17-2007, 02:28 PM

Posted By: barrysloateDidn't Woody Gelman write "This Land is Your Land, This Land is My Land?"

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12-17-2007, 02:39 PM

Posted By: 1880nonsportsoff the bow. Woody was Richard Gelman's father and hobbiest in the early 60's. Richard published reprints of the ACC by way of Nostalgia Press. It was weak I know. Brey, Tiger, Gileeny, and others came to mind but it had to be a publisher. I figured Burdick would have published the guide himself but it appears not. If the guide was published in 1963 - I wonder his condition and ability to do so as he died in that year a sick man. Barry, as for your question - a quick google or "Ask" will reveal all. Or you might ask a gypsy....

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12-17-2007, 02:49 PM

Posted By: barrysloateHenry- it was Woody Guthrie. It was a joke. <img src="/images/happy.gif" height=14 width=14>

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12-17-2007, 03:01 PM

Posted By: Al SimeoneLeon, I think I have the bonus question. What association do you have with the publisher. Isnt he the guy standing with you in your Barmitzvah photo? Peter would add a smiley!!!!!!!!

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12-17-2007, 03:16 PM

Posted By: leonOK, so here's the twist.....Since no one has answered it correctly, both questions and bonus, I am going to leave the bonus question and give hints but take away the bonus prize money.....I am not sure anyone would get this .....So, now it's all 3 questions answered first, for the neat Ruth piece, but the $50 is off the table.... 1. hint for publisher - "Bill Mastro" ........(no, it's not about the PSA8 Wagner and he's not who published it, himself) I will give more hints as we go....good luck....

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12-17-2007, 03:17 PM

Posted By: Paul SI think I'll just wait for the "Guess the final price" auction contest. It won't be as entertaining as this, but it'll make more sense to me!

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12-17-2007, 03:24 PM

Posted By: leonHere's another guess so we can go in the right direction..... 2. Had an association with who Mastro wrote a story about, though a little bit removed.......

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12-17-2007, 03:27 PM

Posted By: JT Burtchaell2.. Keith Olberman

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12-17-2007, 03:34 PM

Posted By: MattFrank Nagy Walter Corson

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12-17-2007, 03:35 PM

Posted By: barrysloateRob Lifson and Bill Mastro co-published the book "Enter the Sideshow" about circus freaks.

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12-17-2007, 03:39 PM

Posted By: MattPreston Orem Bob Jasperson Charles Bray

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12-17-2007, 03:48 PM

Posted By: 1880nonsportsI wuz gonna guess Mastro as you spoke about your association with him in the Carter collection musings you posted at some point - but he was so young on the scene.... Nagy good guess and previous posted mentioned the card connection... I guess I'll tune in at the end as I'm not fortunate to actually own one (although I'd like to) and have no new guesses. Barry, when I went away to high school I stayed in what was Arlo's room the year before. He had written his name and a doodle of a guitar on the side of a clothes chest. It would have been a neat momento. I also went to the flower show each year (BEST fresh pressed apple cider in Mass.) and met the officer (whomever it was) mentioned in the song. At the time it was just a day in real life - as the song Alice's Restaurant hadn't even been a germ of an idea. It was his father who was notable at the time.

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12-17-2007, 04:02 PM

Posted By: Paul S 2. Eddie Golden

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12-17-2007, 04:03 PM

Posted By: barrysloateHenry- cool story. Was Woody still alive at that time? I believe he was. Notice I veered this thread off topic...Leon, this question is too hard. I don't think we will get it.

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12-17-2007, 04:53 PM

Posted By: leonHints- The gentleman that published it has a son that has been on the board before....and has posted approximately a handful of times... Matt- one of your answers was really getting there.....

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12-17-2007, 05:26 PM

Posted By: Al SimeoneMy last shot Jefferson Burdick Walter Corson

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12-17-2007, 05:27 PM

Posted By: 1880nonsportsrip...

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12-17-2007, 05:31 PM

Posted By: MattBill Smith?

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12-17-2007, 05:34 PM

Posted By: ElliotTerry Knouse

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12-17-2007, 05:38 PM

Posted By: Max Weder1. Laguardia 2. Hyatt Mayor 3. Leon's been to the airport named after him

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12-17-2007, 05:47 PM

Posted By: MattGene Denardo? James Lowe? You bought Corson's checklists from Lowe...

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12-17-2007, 05:53 PM

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12-17-2007, 05:58 PM

Posted By: Dave S1) Mr. Mint? 2) George Mitchell? 3) Andy Pettitte?

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12-17-2007, 06:02 PM

Posted By: leonand for an extra $20 Matt- tell me what the relationship is between my card (not ephemera) collection and Mr.Lowe is?.....You have 15 minutes to answer here, for another $20.....(this was the bonus question)...... <img src="http://www.network54.com/Realm/tmp/1197856947.JPG">

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12-17-2007, 06:13 PM

Posted By: Mattleon - all I've got is this text from this post: <a href="http://www.network54.com/Forum/153652/message/1168200470/" target="_new" rel="nofollow">http://www.network54.com/Forum/153652/message/1168200470/</a> leon posted: "Mr.Corson passed away in about 1960. The index card is a small part of his checklists but one I feel is most relevent to this board. I will probably put the rest on my website soon....under the personal collection at <a href="http://www.luckeycards.com" target="_new" rel="nofollow">http://www.luckeycards.com</a> Since I got this a year or so ago I have wondered if this might be the source of where the "Hustler" T206 originated?...It probably went back to at least Mr.Burdick (just a guess) though....glad ya'll like them as much as I do. One thing that was interesting too was the way they were acquired. I had won the N167 Ewing on ebay and became friendly with the Lowe's (ebay sellers). The ebay gentleman is Jeff (a valued board member) and his esteemed dad, Mr. James Lowe, who has authored many books on Postcards. (google him and you will see) He is about 78 years young and has been doing this for somewhere around 50-60 yrs. He was the actual friend of Walt. Walt it seems, was friendly with the forefathers mentioned. Mr.James Lowe and I eventually spoke after corresponding with Jeff several times (btw, hi Jeff). He asked me if I was interested in attaining these? This is one of the really great gentlemen I have ever spoken with. When you speak with him you get that feeling you are speaking with an elder. Very "old guard" and honorable. The way things should, and used, to be. I feel it's a great priviledge to converse with these type of folks. At any rate I digress. We had to figure out what the letters and checklists were worth. Kind of tough since they are unique. Included was, a well used, The American Book of Checklists, Charles Bray, 1950. This is what Mr.Corson used to do his own checklists in. He also used many loose leaf pages which I was trying to acquire also. I believe I spoke with Barry Sloate and Rob Lifson and maybe Kevin Struss, about these, trying to get a value. There could have been a few others too so I apologize for leaving your name out. I think I ended up paying about $400 for everything and we felt that might be a tad below market. He said whatever I felt would be fair was fine with him and he just wanted to help the hobby....what a great man. I feel fortunate to have met him. Jeff, please say hi to your Dad for me if you read this... best regards" If it's not the aforementioned checklists, and it doesn't have to do with the fact that he was a giant in the postcard collecting world, I'm not sure what you're looking for.

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12-17-2007, 06:15 PM

Posted By: barrysloateLeon- interesting that my copy, a later one, is entirely missing that publishing information.

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12-17-2007, 06:21 PM

Posted By: leonSorry....you had to say the exact thing.....I don't think reposting my message was the answer I was necessarly looking for....I got this card below indirectly from Mr.Lowe, through his son Jeff, on ebay.. I assume he got it from Mr.Corson as he was his best friend.... <img src="http://luckeycards.com/pn167ewing.jpg">