Beckett Named T-206 and 33 Goudey as the best vintage sets!!

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Posted By: <b>Sean</b><p>not to do alot of topics in a few days<br />but i just read this today and thought i should share it<br />33 goudey and t206 as the best vintage sets!!<br />Agree or Disagree?<br />discuss.............

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Posted By: <b>peter ullman</b><p>for the masses to collect due to ease of aquisition and relative low cost maybe.<br /><br />peter ullman

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Posted By: <b>Rob</b><p>If you had to chose two pre-war sets for the "average" collector, I think these two would get the nod. Both sets have a few things going for them:<br /><br />1) eye appeal<br />2) contain many HOFers and stars<br />3) large sets, keeps collectors interested<br />4) relatively low price for commons<br /><br />I would guess that Old Judges must've been ranked high too, for all of the reasons above except that prices aren't as low. <br /><br />Rob<br /><img src="/images/happy.gif" height=14 width=14>

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Posted By: <b>Matt</b><p>How many complete sets of Old Judges are there?

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Posted By: <b>peter ullman</b><p>that would be...0!!<br /><br /><br />peter ullman

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Posted By: <b>dennis</b><p>t206 <br />33 goudey<br />52 topps<br /><br />the big three, always were and always will be.

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Posted By: <b>T206Collector</b><p>....T206 has it all. Easy, beater pick-ups; tough to find, rare variations; beautiful images; ugly ones, too; portraits; action shots -- you name it, T206 has got it. <br /><br /><br><br>Visit <a href="http://www.t206collector.com" target="_new" rel="nofollow">http://www.t206collector.com</a> for card galleries, articles and more!

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Posted By: <b>barry arnold</b><p>Paul,<br />Very,very well said.<br />I agree wholeheartedly.<br /><br />all the best,<br />Barry

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Posted By: <b>Marty Ogelvie</b><p><P>2 of my favorites.. </P><P>another is Cracker Jack.. </P><P>no love for Cracker Jack??</P><br><br>martyOgelvie<br />nyyankeecards.com

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Posted By: <b>Fred C</b><p>Matt,<br /><br />The answer to your question is NONE. NOBODY has a complete set. There may be a collector or two (basically very few) out there with a close to complete player set (at least one card of each player) but when you consider all the different poses then you can pretty much say that NOBODY has a complete set. The N172 offering still has new variations and poses that show up periodically.

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Posted By: <b>Matt</b><p>Fred - that's my point - I don't see how you could rank OJs as the best vintage sets when not even 1 exists!

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Posted By: <b>Fred C</b><p>Matt,<br /><br />OJs are an addiction. They are a window to 19th century baseball and depict players that are true pioneers of the game. N172 represents more players than any other pre-war vintage set. T206 may be "the monster" but N172 is "the nightmare that wont stop". I suppose you could call it the N172 offering rather than the N172 set.

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Posted By: <b>Matt</b><p>Fred - I dont' think anything I said conflicts with what you just wrote.

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Posted By: <b>Jim VB</b><p>Matt, <br /><br />I hear what you're asking, but I don't think Beckett's was trying to be that literal in their use of the word "set".<br /><br />If they were, would the 1933 Goudey be considered complete without Lajoie? Or the T206 without the big 4 (or big 6, or whatever other number you choose to use)?<br /><br />I think a set can still be great, even if it's unlikely that I ever collect the entire thing. <br /><br />

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Posted By: <b>Eric Brehm</b><p>Assuming we are talking about pre-WWII cards, picking T206 and 1933 Goudey as the greatest sets is sort of like picking Mt Everest as the greatest mountain on earth. You might not get completely universal agreement among aficionados, but the choice certainly isn't too difficult to defend. Some would also include 1915 Cracker Jack, to make a trio of all-time great pre-war sets. And if we were choosing the greatest sets of <i>all</i> time, whether pre or post war, adding 1952 Topps to the list would make a nice Big Four.<br /><br />Now if I had to pick <i>one</i> set as the greatest or most classic pre-war set of all time? I would go with T206, because of the sheer size of it, the quality of the artwork, the number of great players depicted, and the fame/mystique of the Wagner card and other rarities. I believe that as long as there continues to be interest in <i>any</i> vintage baseball cards, there will be interest in the T206 set.

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Posted By: <b>Anthony S.</b><p>I see T206 and 33 Goudey as the gateway drugs that lure someone into vintage collecting. They're both relatively plentiful compared to other vintage sets, and a large percentage of them are affordable even to individuals with relatively modest means. And they're handsome sturdy cards. But once they suck you in, you're in for the long haul.

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Posted By: <b>Matt</b><p>Jim - I hear ya!<br />I would however note that even though you or I may never complete the Goudye/T206 set, certainly others have; no one has completed the OJ set. Further, with the Goudeys and T206s, there's almost an unspoken "minor set" which excludes the few impossible cards and allows many people to complete them. There's no such well known "minor set" for the OJs.<br /><br />Still certainly fun to collect them though!

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Posted By: <b>Fred C</b><p>Matt,<br /><br />The beauty of OJs is that they can be collected in a lot of different ways. There are a few "minor" subsets: Spotted/Dotted ties and Browns Champions. Some people might further break things down into "portraits" or "outdoor" poses. Theres a lot of ways to collect OJs. <br /><br />T206 and 33G are definitely abundant and available for collectors, that's the appeal of those cards, just about anybody can have a chance to complete those sets. The only limitation is $$$. The cards are out there and usually available via some auction outlet. Try to find someone willing to part with an N172 Anson in uniform. <br /><br />N172 covers the 19th century players better than any other offering.<br />T206 brings the early 20th century (dead ball) era to life.<br />33G has so many stars that represent the end of the dead ball era and beginning of the HR sluggers.<br /><br />The 40PB set is neat, it has both past and present stars of the era. The only problem is that 40PB lacks some of the better stars (Ruth, Gehrig, Cobb, for example).<br /><br />It's all cardboard and it's all fun to collect... <img src="/images/happy.gif" height=14 width=14> <br /><br />