need your help T206 Cy in a 6 or 1933 Goudey Hack in an 8?

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Posted By: <b>Matt</b><p>If you were a 25 year-old purchasing a vintage card to add to your collection to keep for a very very long time, which would be the better long-term investment:<br /><br />-1909/11 T206 Cy Young, Portrait (Piedmont 150 back) PSA 6?<br />or a<br />-1933 Goudey Hack Wilson PSA 8?<br /><br />Both cards are absolutely beautiful in my opinion. If they are both about the same price to purchase now, please help me decide which one of these cards to get! Thanks again!<br /><br />-Matt<br /><br /><br />edited title to be more specific

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Posted By: <b>Jason L</b><p>elite-tier HOFers are always going to command/maintain a premium over the lesser ones.<br />and PSA6 is an extremely solid card that should trump the Hack over the years to come...

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Posted By: <b>Eric</b><p>Is my pick too. For the same reasons as stated above.

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Posted By: <b>Steve Murray</b><p>Most definitely the Cy Young. (Who is Hack Wilson?)

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Posted By: <b>Matt</b><p>LOL, well I'm assuming that question was sarcastic. <img src="/images/happy.gif" height=14 width=14><br /><br />But he is a HOF'er who holds the record for most RBI's in one season (191).

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Posted By: <b>Jerry Rucker</b><p>Hack Wilson had a chest like a Beer Barrell and very familar with it's contents.<br /><br />Go with the CY.

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Posted By: <b>Joe D.</b><p>Matt -<br /><br />he only got that many RBI because he didn't have to face Cy Young.<br /><br /><br />I guess that tells you which one I would choose <img src="/images/happy.gif" height=14 width=14><br /><br /><br />Financially speaking as an investment - Cy Young.<br /><br />As a collector... pick the one that will bring you the most joy.<br />(but... hack who?)<br />

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Posted By: <b>Jimmy</b><p>Cy Young would best, but save a bit more and try to get a PSA 7<br /><br /><br />Jimmy

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Posted By: <b>Red</b><p>"If they are both about the same price to purchase now, please help me decide which one of these cards to get! Thanks again!"<br /><br />I think you'll have to pay a good bit more for the Young card. The guide prices might be close but the Young is a very desirable pose and will sell for more than guide price. Down the road it will continue to be a more popular card than the Wilson. <br />

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Posted By: <b>Matt M.</b><p>I love both of these cards. For quite some time I had the Cy Young T206 glove shows with Cycle back. Back in the early 90's I had to sell it because of money problems. <br /><br />I still regret the sale of the Young and miss the card greatly.<br /><br />I would go for the Young PSA 6.

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Posted By: <b>fkw</b><p>Cy Young mainly because of the name recognition. He is always in demand.

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Posted By: <b>andy becker</b><p>ahhhh, to be 25.........jealousy rears it's head. <br /><br />cy young, hands down. <br />

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Posted By: <b>JK</b><p>One more vote for Cy - not even close in my opinion.

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Posted By: <b>PC</b><p>Matt -- yours is an excellent question.<br /><br />Hack is one of the most undervalued pre-war HOFers. On the other hand, top-tier T206 HOFers in all grades are, in my opinion (and I spend a lot of money on T206s), currently very overpriced.<br /><br />Also, all high grade, graded pre-war HOFers are pricey. With very few exceptions, I would not have any expectation that those cards will aoppreciate at the rate they have in recent years. And who knows, prices have been declining for some issues (33 Goudeys for example), and the higher the grade, the greater the possible decrease in value.<br /><br />So, purely from an investment perspective, I'm not not sure I would buy either of those cards at this time. But if you're set on buying, maybe hedge a little -- drop down a grade or two, and buy both!

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Posted By: <b>boxingcardman</b><p>Young is clearly the marquee player.<br /><br />Wilson is more of a "condition rarity" (I hate the term).<br /><br />If you believe that graded high end cards are untampered and that they will be in vogue long down the line, that's probably a better choice financially. However, if you don't want to risk having money tied up in a "fad", the Young is the choice. Young, Cobb, Ruth, Williams, Gehrig, Wagner, Johnson, Mathewson, those are guys you never have to "apologize" for owning. <br /><br />Of course if it was me I'd spend the same scratch on several top-name HOFers in vg condition...<br><br>Sic Gorgiamus Allos Subjectatos Nunc

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Posted By: <b>RC</b><p>I love the '33 Goudey's, but I would also have to go with Cy. I think that is one of the premier cards for collectors.<br /><br />A side note on Cy, I used to teach with a lady who didn't realize until many years later that her neighbor,"old Cy", was such a phenomenal baseball player. I need to talk with her and pick her brain on memories of him.<br /><br />RC

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Posted By: <b>leon</b><p>Cy in a 6. Personally, as I have said recently, I think an ex-mt card is just about the best "value" there is. The difference in price between a 6 and 7 is usually a whole lot, but for only a little bit better conditioned card.....Cy Young all the way on this question. The other answer of "collect what you enjoy the most" also makes a lot of sense but wasn't the technical question asked....Good luck in the hunt....25yrs old... I don't even remember half of those nights <img src="/images/happy.gif" height=14 width=14>.....

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Posted By: <b>Matt</b><p>Leon, and all the other people who have responded:<br /><br />Thanks again for all the great feedback, keep it going if you like! It sounds like I should definitely pursue the Cy Young. Afterall, I am a Cleveland native and Cy Young sure does look great sporting 'Cleveland' across his chest <img src="/images/happy.gif" height=14 width=14><br /><br />Other than the obvious great vintage sets (52 topps, 33 goudey, T206), do you all have other sets that are highly collectible but not so widely known? In addition to value, feel free to offer opinions on the best looking/designed vintage card sets. I'm fairly new at this, so I'm kind of leaning on your expertise.<br /><br />I will start off- I definitely think the T205's, not seemingly as popular as the T206's, are vivid & colorful cards that have great design. I may just have to get the T205 Cobb as well, hehe.

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Posted By: <b>Anthony S.</b><p>Matt,<br /><br /> A nice resource for learning the very basics of myriad vintage baseball card sets is www.oldcardboard.com. It probably covers somewhere in the neighborhood of 150 - 200 different vintage sets. It doesn't go into extensive detail, put it does provide pictures of representative cards from each set, the number of cards in each set, and a rough estimate of what you might expect to pay for a common card in VG condition in each set.<br /><br />Once you locate a few sets that appeal to your eye and pocketbook, the fellows on here are fantastic about providing a much deeper description of the vagaries of those sets. At times it's a bit awe inspiring how much certain individuals on here know about the sets they collect.<br /><br />

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Posted By: <b>MVSNYC</b><p>CY...without a doubt.<br /><br />good luck.

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Posted By: <b>T206Collector</b><p>The last 1933 Goudey Wilson PSA 8 sold in REA for $1,997.50. The average of the last five sales is $2,307.21.<br /><br />The last T206 Cy Young portrait PSA 6 went for $3,026.65 on ebay in September. The average of the last 5 sales price was $3,037.76.<br /><br />If someone is offering you anywhere near the same price for both of these, he is either WAY overcharging for the Wilson or WAY undercharging for the Young. <br /><br />Based on your post, and these prices, I guess you are just deciding where to blow about $2,500, give or take $500. If that's the case, go with Cy Young.

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Posted By: <b>peter chao</b><p>I love Hack's strut on the '33 Goudey, but for investment I would go with Cy.<br /><br />Peter C.