T206 Cycle 460 List

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Posted By: <b>Lee Behrens</b><p>Looking for a little help trying to track down all the possible Cycle 460's. I currently have 51 different and with these plus the data compilied by Bill Brown, Ted Z. and a few others I have narrowed down this list of possible backs but no evidence yet they exist. If you have any please let me know. <br /><br />I think there is a good chance they are out there, since I actually knocked off 3 from the list in the last couple of weeks.<br /><br />Bescher<br />Chance (batting)<br />Crandall (w/Cap)<br />Gandil<br />Griffith (batting)<br />Howell<br />Hummel<br />Konetchy (ball low)<br />Latham<br />Leifeld (batting)<br />Marquard (follow thru)<br />McQuillen (bat)<br />Oldring (bat)<br />Overall (hand at Face)<br />Pelty<br />Schaefer (Wash)<br />Seymour (throw)<br />Seymour (port)<br />Wilhelm (bat)<br /><br />Thanks<br /><br />Lee

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Posted By: <b>Drew</b><p>Hi Lee<br /><br />I don't have any of these cards with the cycle 460 back.<br><br>Drew

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Posted By: <b>leon</b><p>1909 T206 Cycle-460 Geyer vg

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Posted By: <b>Richard</b><p>Though I don't have it any longer, I used to own a Cycle 460 of Leifield batting.<br /><br />Regards,<br /><br />Richard.

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Posted By: <b>Ted Zanidakis</b><p>LEE B<br /><br />Here's my entire list of confirmed CYCLE 460 backs<br /><br />Abbaticcio (blu slv)......460 series<br />Ames (hds/hd)<br />Baker<br />Ball (Clev)......460 series<br />Bell (fol thru)......460 series<br />Bergen (catch).......460 series<br />Berger<br />Bradley (bat)<br />Bridwell (no cap)<br />Bridwell (cap)........460 series<br />M. Brown (Chi)<br />Burch (fldg)<br />Camnitz (arms fold)<br />Camnitz (arms side)......460 series<br />Chance (port-yellow)<br />Chase (blue)<br />Chase (dark cap)<br />Chase (trophy)..........460 series<br />Cobb (red)<br />Cobb (bat off)<br />Conroy (bat)<br />Crandall (cap)........460 series<br />Crawford (bat)<br />Davis (A's)<br />Devore............460 series<br />Donlin (bat)<br />Doolan (bat)<br />Dougherty (arms/air)<br />Downey (bat)<br />Larry Doyle (bat)<br />Larry Doyle (port)........460-series<br />Duffy........................460 series<br />Elberfeld (Wash-fldg)<br />Evers (Chicago-bat)<br />Ford..........460 series<br />Frill..........460 series<br />Gandil..........460 series<br />Geyer..........460 series<br />Herzog (Bos)............460 series<br />Jennings (one hand)<br />Jennings (dance)<br />Johnson (pitch)<br />Jordan (bat)<br />Joss (pitch)<br />Kleinow (Boston)<br />Lajoie (bat)<br />Lake (no ball-St Louis)<br />Lake (ball-St Louis)........460 series<br />Leach (cap)<br />Magee (bat)<br />Manning (pitch)<br />Mathewson (dark cap)<br />McGraw (port-cap)........460 series<br />McGraw (glove)............460 series<br />McIntyre (Bro/Chi)<br />Merkle (throw).........460 series<br />Meyers (port).........460 series<br />Mullin (bat)<br />Murphy (bat)<br />Murray (port)........460 series<br />Needham...............460 series<br />O'Leary (hds/knees)<br />Overall (blue sky)......460 Series<br />Payne...............460 series<br />Pfeffer..............460 series<br />Pfeister (throw)<br />Reulbach (no glove)<br />Rucker (throw)<br />Schlei (port).......460 series<br />Schlei (bat).........460 series<br />Schulte (back).......460 series<br />Sheckard (throw)......460 series<br />Smith (Chi/Boston)......460 series<br />Smith (Brooklyn)........460 series<br />Snodgrass (fldg)<br />Stahl (glove)<br />Steinfeldt (bat) <br />Street (fldg)<br />Sweeney (NY)<br />Tannehill (follow thru)......460 series<br />Tinker (bat off)<br />Wheat.................460 series<br />White (Chi-throw)<br />Willetts<br />Willis (bat)<br />Willis (throw)<br />Wiltse (port-no cap).......460 series<br />Wiltse (pitching)<br />CYoung (glove)<br /><br />It's not up to date....so, can you post the additional ones you have (or know of) and I will update this list.<br /><br />Or you can post a new updated list.<br /><br />TED Z

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Posted By: <b>Jim Rivera</b><p>Lee,<br /><br />I have Oldring with bat Cycle 460. I will have to check my records to your list but I think that is the only one I have.<br />That is pretty good -51 different-I think I have a dozen or so.

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Posted By: <b>Lee Behrens</b><p>Thanks for the responses so far. I don't know if there is some confusion in my original post but the cards I listed are the ones that I have NOT been able to confirm.<br /><br />By the way I was the winner of the Geyer, very happy with the pickup.<br /><br />The 2 cards I really wonder if they exist are the Crandall w/cap and Gandil. I was trying to get one of every back of the Crandall for quite a few years without ever obtaining or remembering seeing one and the Gandil I have watched for for about 4 or 5 years. <br /><br />Lee

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Posted By: <b>Jim Rivera</b><p>Lee I collect those Giant portraits (sweater)from the 460 sreies. I am pretty sure there are 8 different and I have a Doyle Cycle 460 but can't recall ever seeing a Crandall.<br />I always wanted the Crandall with Red Hindu but was the under bidder on the last 2 that were on ebay and both went to board members.

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Posted By: <b>Richard Dwyer</b><p>Awhile back I took the info from the book "The Monster" and made a spreadsheet. I then sorted by Factories, etc. to produce a list of all back possibilities. This list has all the factories:<br /><br /><a href="http://rdwyer.250free.com/T206Backs.html" target="_new" rel="nofollow">http://rdwyer.250free.com/T206Backs.html</a>

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Posted By: <b>Ted Zanidakis</b><p>I had a Crandall (cap) some time ago (before I knew you were collecting these); so, it does exist.<br /><br />My list shows Gandil confirmed....but, I can't find a record of it.<br /><br />Anyhow, it appears to me that all T206 Subjects that can possibly be Cycle 460 cards were printed with this T-brand......<br />I do NOT expect to find any NO PRINTS in this sub-set.<br /><br /><br />350/460 series.....56 subjects<br />460-only series....48 subjects<br />Super Prints..........6 subjects<br /><br />Total................110 cards with Cycle 460 backs<br /><br /><br />TED Z

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Posted By: <b>Ted Zanidakis</b><p>Looking at your list, I can tell you with absolute certainty that the following SOVEREIGN 150 cards do not exist.....<br /><br />Joe Doyle (NY Nat'l Hands above Head)<br /><br />Jennings (portrait)<br /><br />Lundgren (Cubs)<br /><br />Magie<br /><br />Plank<br /><br />Wagner (Pittsburg)<br /><br /><br />TED Z

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Posted By: <b>Ted Zanidakis</b><p>I recently acquired this Cycle 460 of Donlin. I'm trying to collect all the backs of the T206 Donlin cards.<br />And, I found this one to be quite tough.....which raises the question.....are some Cycle 460 subjects<br /> tougher than others ?<br /><br />TED Z<br /><br /><img src="http://www.freephotoserver.com/v001/tedzan/cycle460donlin.jpg"><br /><br /><img src="http://www.freephotoserver.com/v001/tedzan/cycle460donlinbk.jpg">

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Posted By: <b>Rick McQuillan</b><p>Ted, you raised a good question, but to take it one step farther, if some of the Cycle 460's are tougher, why are they tougher?<br /><br />Richard, that is one heck of a list. Great job! I do have some questions:<br /><br />1. How does your list compare with the lists that Ted has provided in previous posts? Are they similar?<br /><br />2 If your lists show all of the possible combinations, do you know how many of each type has been confirmed?<br /><br />Both of you guys amaze me. Thanks for all of the info.<br /><br />Rick

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Posted By: <b>Richard Dwyer</b><p>I got my info from the book "The Monster" by Bill Heitman. Some have other info from others sources. I'm sure that there were mistakes that were found out later.

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Posted By: <b>Lee Behrens</b><p>Ted,<br /><br />The Donlin may be tough because I have 3 of them. <img src="/images/happy.gif" height=14 width=14> It does appear that some are tougher than others but I have not found that there appear to be any "super prints". It is not too often that a Cycle 460 goes by that I do not at least bid on. I always figure it does not hurt to have extras.<br /><br />Lee

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Posted By: <b>Ted Zanidakis</b><p>I'm always checking out tougher T206 backs. I don't bid on the Cycle 460 ones, as I know you will.<br /><br />Many more ebayers are identifying their T206's with tougher backs, than did a year ago. Are they<br />tuning in to our Net54 posts ?<br /><br />Sounds like you are 1/2 the way on your Cyce 460 adventure....I will be looking for ones you need<br /> at the Shows I attend or set-up at.<br /><br />TED Z<br />

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Posted By: <b>Lee Behrens</b><p>Thanks Ted, I wish I could attend another big show soon, the search is always fun.<br /><br />Lee

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Posted By: <b>Lee Behrens</b><p>Bump in hopes of getting more responses, do these cards exist?<br /><br />Lee