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11-17-2007, 05:40 AM
Posted By: <b>Jason Carota</b><p>I recently won an E121 Holsum Bread Everett Scott (SGC 10.) To my surprise, the final price was very close to my max bid. How rare is the Holsum back compared to others in the E121 set? Is there some form of a back scarcity checklist?
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11-17-2007, 07:13 AM
Posted By: <b>Jerry Rucker</b><p>Holsum bread cards have their own Acc number which is D327. I have picked up and sold a few over the last couple years. It's Not uncommon to find uncataloged players with Holsum Backs. The interest lies mainly with Type card collectors abd I doubt if there is a complete set out there. Old Cardboard list a VG common at 70.00 which is about right. If I remember right I was getting 70 to 100.00 for Vg Commons. I got more for Uncataloged Commons.
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11-17-2007, 10:29 AM
Posted By: <b>Andy Cook</b><p>The Holsum Checklist is generally a cross between E121-80 and E135. I've owned about 35 of these over time and probably 20-25 matched a corresponding E121-80 and the rest matched the pose from E135. I don't think there is a single consolidated checklist that is complete. The checklist is complicated because there are two different backs possible with the Holsum ad.<br /><br />Andy
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11-17-2007, 01:09 PM
Posted By: <b>Jason Carota</b><p>Thanks for your responses, Jerry and Andy.<br /><br />I was aware of the D327 set and it's correlation with the E121 set and others. However, I believe I was confused by the SGC flip on the card I won. For reference, here is the scan:<br /><br /><img src="http://i139.photobucket.com/albums/q319/jay1065/Red%20Sox/Incoming/1186_1.jpg"><br /><br />The flip says 1921 E121, so am I correct in saying that it would be one in the same if the flip said 1921 D327? Could an M101-4 Morehouse Baking card instead be listed as a D352?<br /><br />I've only been in the prewar area for a little over a year, so I am still trying to piece all of this info together. <img src="/images/happy.gif" height=14 width=14>
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11-17-2007, 01:23 PM
Posted By: <b>Steve Murray</b><p>Though not graded I would expect this Morehouse Baking to be slabbed as a D352:<br /><br /><img src="http://i52.photobucket.com/albums/g5/jacklitsch1/Odds%20and%20Ends/CollinsD352.jpg"><br /><img src="http://i52.photobucket.com/albums/g5/jacklitsch1/Odds%20and%20Ends/CollinsD352Back.jpg"><br /><br />
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11-17-2007, 01:39 PM
Posted By: <b>leon</b><p>Most of the times I believe the grading companies lump these series into M101, E121, and E135...regardless of what number Burdick gave them. Technically they are incorrectly labelled but only us addicts know it.....As a type collector I even have them mislabelled a little bit <img src="/images/sad.gif" height=14 width=14>, since most folks do categorize them as the above mentioned series....Now this is a conversation I like....
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11-17-2007, 02:21 PM
Posted By: <b>Todd Schultz</b><p>I would expect that SGC would simply slab your card as a 1916 Morehouse Baking, with no other designation. At least that's how mine read.
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11-17-2007, 07:25 PM
Posted By: <b>Jason Carota</b><p>The next time I bid on a card like this, I will definitely pay more attention to the title and/or labeling. Before I placed my bid on the Holsum Scott, I checked the prices with Old Cardboard and SCD on both the E121 and D327 sets (Everett Scott was not on the D327 expirimental checklist in the 07 SCD.) Based on that info, I placed what I thought was a high, but "good enough to win" bid. I still won, luckily. Had the card been labled/titled D327, I would have placed a much higher bid.