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11-01-2007, 01:24 PM
Posted By: <b>Steve</b><p>My old pal Stew_ rec'd a gig from eBay because he <u>stiffed</u> a seller $3K for some bogus T206s. This seller was warned by a couple of people that the cards were obvious fakes and responded in a less than gracious manner. <br /><br /><a href="http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=330174353475&ssPageName=STRK:MEWN:IT&ih=014" target="_new" rel="nofollow">http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=330174353475&ssPageName=STRK:MEWN:IT&ih=014</a><br /><br />The seller has since relisted these counterfeits and is recieving bids.<br /><br />There is no mechanism available to show comparison photos and such. Thus after much pleading, eBay refuses to remove the Strike. This puts Stewies scammer hassling on Hold. The claim tech suggests that if this guy is reported enough there's a good chance it may happen. Help.<br /><br />1. The relisted scam;<br /><a href="http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=330181155899&ssPageName=STRK:MEWA:IT&ih=014" target="_new" rel="nofollow">http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=330181155899&ssPageName=STRK:MEWA:IT&ih=014</a><br /><br />2. The relisted item #<br />330181155899<br /><br />3. Report it here please;<br /><a href="http://pages.ebay.com/help/policies/replica-counterfeit.html" target="_new" rel="nofollow">http://pages.ebay.com/help/policies/replica-counterfeit.html</a><br /><br />Thankyou!<br /><br />

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11-01-2007, 01:38 PM
Posted By: <b>dennis</b><p>sadly,it looks as if stew was shilled also! <img src="/images/sad.gif" height=14 width=14>

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11-01-2007, 01:40 PM
Posted By: <b>Steve Murray</b><p>this is not an O/T topic.

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11-01-2007, 02:05 PM
Posted By: <b>Andrew S.</b><p>Not only selling fakes, but shill bidding against stew p. dazzole

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11-01-2007, 02:46 PM
Posted By: <b>davidcycleback</b><p>If the seller lists the lot as reprints, the NPB strike should be removed from when they were earlier sold as originals. The relisting shows that the seller concedes that the original description was bad.

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11-01-2007, 02:50 PM
Posted By: <b>leon</b><p>This auction will be booted before it ends.....regards<br /><br />edited to add my only concern with getting this shut down is their statement:<br /><br />"TO PLAY IT SAFE, I'M GOING TO SELL THEM AS REPRINTS. SO PLEASE BID ACCORDINGLY. I WANT THE WINNER TO BE HAPPY WITH NO NEGATIVE AFTERMATH."<br /><br /><br />not sure if ebay will shut this one down?<br /><br />

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11-01-2007, 03:00 PM
Posted By: <b>brian</b><p>I remember sending them a message and they replied with profanities.

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11-01-2007, 03:05 PM
Posted By: <b>davidcycleback</b><p>It should be noted that saying "Selling as reprints" is not the rhetorical equivalent to "These are reprints." Per eBay rules, the equivalent of "These are reprints" is "These are reprints." "Selling as reprints" is a rhetorical ploy where the seller doesn't actually say what he are selling, even though he usually know exactly what they are selling. And if he really doesn't know if the lot is real or reprint, he's breaking eBay rules by offering it for sale in the first place-- as eBay requires sellers to know and state what they are auctioning.<br /><br />I've known of folks who bought homemade fakes from scammers, and when you read the auction description the seller never said anywhere that the card was genuine. The seller typically used a lot of rhetorical mumbo jumbo and disclaimers and 'local card shop owner said' and 'looks real but to selling as reprint,' all insinuating but never actually saying the card is genuine. That's why an important rule for bidders is to bid in an auction where the seller clearly states what the item is for sale. Not insinuates, not suggests, not touches on, but states. "This is a genuine 1956 Topps Willie Mays" is a statement of identity. "This is a reprint" is a statement of identity. "Selling as a reprint" isn't. "Selling as a reprint" doesn't say the item is original, but it doesn't say its reprint either. It doesn't state what it is. I've used a book "as a" hammer and I've used a wash cloth "as a" tooth brush, but I won't tell you that a book is a hammer and a wash cloth as a tooth brush. On eBay as in life, "as" isn't a synonym for "is." The bidder should say, "Why cares what you're selling it as. What is it?"

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11-01-2007, 03:06 PM
Posted By: <b>MW</b><p>Perhaps the username should have given the seller some indication of the probability of payment.

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11-02-2007, 04:38 PM
Posted By: <b>Steve</b><p>Item removed. Thanks for the help!