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10-22-2007, 06:41 PM
Posted By: <b>Dennis W.</b><p>I was outbid. I was wondering what the board thought value wise. <br /><br /><a href="http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=230181702149" target="_new" rel="nofollow"><a href="http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=230181702149</a" target="_new" rel="nofollow">http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=230181702149</a</a>>
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10-22-2007, 06:49 PM
Posted By: <b>chris bland</b><p>I have no idea of its value, but that is an awesome piece. <br /><br />Also, if the winner is who I think it is, you were not going to win that auction no matter what you bid - big time PCL collector I believe...
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10-22-2007, 06:52 PM
Posted By: <b>Steve Murray</b><p>is correct. If an item is won by veangregg you may be assured that it is important and worth every penny, if not more.
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10-22-2007, 06:55 PM
Posted By: <b>Tom Boblitt</b><p>William "DUMMY" Hoy...........<br />Letter to his brother.......<br /><br />I'd say well worth the $500++
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10-22-2007, 07:03 PM
Posted By: <b>Frank Wakefield</b><p>Dennis, you did well finding the letter, I think.<br /><br />And I agree with everyone's posts! A Dummy Hoy letter, monumental. A great PCL piece, too. And outbidding veangregg is difficult. He seems to have a great eye for stuff, and financial wherewithal to get serious about items. I'm confident that he's a knowledgeable collector who seriously pursues items he wants. I'd like to buy him supper one evening just to listen to the tales he could tell.
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10-22-2007, 07:04 PM
Posted By: <b>Dennis W.</b><p>OK, I know who you're talking about concerning the high bidder. I knew it was Dummy Hoy and I was the under bidder with what I thought was a strong bid. I'm always short on cash every time something comes up on ebay that I really want. Of course in this case it probably didn't matter since I was out-gunned anyway.
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10-22-2007, 07:43 PM
Posted By: <b>davidcycleback</b><p>I think the winning price was low. 1893 writing date, Dummy Hoy, SF baseball, original envelope, morphine for some color. Hard to get much better.<br /><br />Star players signatures signed in 1800s in any form are rare. I've had a few 19th century stars autographs, but they were all signed in the 1900s, long after they had retired.
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10-22-2007, 08:30 PM
Posted By: <b>Bill Todd</b><p>Yeah, I got outsniped at the last second as well (would have been third). My heart was beating kind of fast when I saw that it was still at $65 this evening, and no baseball folks had bid on it yet (only cover guys). <br /><br />Hoy played in a barnstorming tour with the Boston Beaneaters that winter in California. I hope Veangregg will share some of the content with us once he has the letter in hand. <br /><br />The seller gets between $10 and $20 for most of his covers. He obviously didn't know what he had here, or he would have said more about the baseball part and would have shown the signature; he must be stunned at the ending price.<br /><br />Bill
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10-22-2007, 11:33 PM
Posted By: <b>dstudeba</b><p>Awesome piece, thanks for sharing the link.
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10-22-2007, 11:54 PM
Posted By: <b>Brett</b><p>That was in my watch list but the seller never responded to my e-mails, so no bid for me :S
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10-22-2007, 11:58 PM
Posted By: <b>davidcycle</b><p>The winner is a big early Seattle baseball collector in, of all places, Seattle. Presumably he collects other vintage PCL stuff also. A couple years back he helped design a big Seattle baseball history display at Safeco Field and there was a recent article about him and his collecting ways in one of the Seattle papers.
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10-23-2007, 12:10 AM
Posted By: <b>Dan Bretta</b><p>I know he mainly focuses on PCL stuff, but believe me he will bid on nearly all minor league items. I was lucky enough to outbid him a few days ago on a 1915 Western league schedule. I believe it is the first time I have ever beaten him out of anything on ebay.
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10-23-2007, 01:12 AM
Posted By: <b>anthony</b><p>how in the heck do you do a search for that on ebay?<br /><br />nice find...
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10-23-2007, 04:27 AM
Posted By: <b>Bill Todd</b><p><br /><br />>>how in the heck do you do a search for that on ebay?<<<br /><br />Anthony,<br /><br />I could tell you, but then I'd have to kill you. (Or at least cancel your eBay account.)<br /><br />Bill
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10-23-2007, 08:46 AM
Posted By: <b>Dennis W.</b><p>Thanks Anthony and you other guys for complimenting me on my "find". I spend wayyyy too much time on ebay. It pays off on occasion. In this case, because of the way the item was listed, I thought I had a good shot. Unfortunately, I'm not the only one that spends a lot of time on ebay.
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10-23-2007, 09:47 AM
Posted By: <b>Matt</b><p>Anthony - just browse to that category:<br /><a href="http://collectibles.listings.ebay.com/Ephemera_1900-20_W0QQfclZ3QQfromZR11QQsacatZ41188QQsocmdZListing ItemList" target="_new" rel="nofollow">http://collectibles.listings.ebay.com/Ephemera_1900-20_W0QQfclZ3QQfromZR11QQsacatZ41188QQsocmdZListing ItemList</a><br />and do a search for baseball including the item description. There are just a few items to look through, but almost always interesting.
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10-23-2007, 11:39 AM
Posted By: <b>davidcycle</b><p>Brief Seattle Business Journal article about the winner:<br /><br /><a href="http://seattle.bizjournals.com/seattle/stories/2007/03/05/story17.html" target="_new" rel="nofollow">http://seattle.bizjournals.com/seattle/stories/2007/03/05/story17.html</a>
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10-23-2007, 12:08 PM
Posted By: <b>Alan</b><p>Isn't he a member of this forum ?
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10-23-2007, 12:26 PM
Posted By: <b>Chris David</b><p>Just curious to know if the end of the Letter is "signed" ?