T206 MISSION ACCOMPLISHED....99.8% Sovereign

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Posted By: <b>Ted Zanidakis</b><p>It's been 11 months since I first embarked on this adventure to put together an all-Sovereign set. It was a real<br /> labor of love, since I realized very early in the game that a good number of T206 subjects were not printed with<br /> the Sovereign brand. So, an additional challenge was to research which ones were not printed.....otherwise, I'd <br />never be confident that I completed this set. To that end, I've discovered 66 cards that I refer to as "No-Prints".<br /><br />Now that it is 99.3% complete, I derive a certain sense of satisfaction as I flip the album pages of this set; and,<br /> there is a complete field of GREEN backs, rather than the usual "rainbow" array of T206 backs.<br /><br />Consider this, this 404 card Sovereign set requires none of the "Big Six"....no 48 Southern Leaguers....and, there<br /> are 66 No-Prints.....therefore, 404 different T206 Subjects comprise this basic set. Can you beat that ? <br /><br />Furthermore, if you include the Six Super-Prints with their very tough Sovereign 460 backs, then you have the<br /> "ultimate" Sovereign set consisting of 410 cards.<br /><br />So, I still need the following 4 cards; and, any help will really be appreciated....<br /><br />Ball (NY).........150 series<br />Campbell.........350 series<br />Jim Collins.......350 series<br />Red Cobb........460 series (super-print)<br /><br />Last Series (52 cards)....which includes the very tough 6 super-prints with Sovereign 460 backs (missing Red Cobb).<br /><br /><img src="http://www.freephotoserver.com/v001/tedzan/asovereign460set.jpg"><br />See guys....I even have a few Graded cards in this set....12 to be exact.<br /><br /><img src="http://www.freephotoserver.com/v001/tedzan/acobbjohnmattysov.jpg"><br /><br /><br />But, you have to love all these....there's nothing like touching little pieces of cardboard depicting your favorite BB players.<br /><br /><img src="http://www.freephotoserver.com/v001/tedzan/asovset6stars.jpg"><br />TED Z collection

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Posted By: <b>Matt</b><p>Mazal Tov!

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Posted By: <b>Joe D.</b><p>very very cool.<br /><br /><br />Are you going to bring those beautiful green-backs to the philly show?<br /><br />Any chance I might be able to wrestle one or two away from you at that show? I'd like to call dibs on a couple right now!<br /><br /><br />great stuff. congrats.

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Posted By: <b>Marc S.</b><p>Quite a cool accomplishment.

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Posted By: <b>T206Collector</b><p>...if you only need 404 different T206 to have a complete set, where you get to 406 out of 410? Your super-print explanation was over my head.<br /><br />Thanks!

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Posted By: <b>Rick McQuillan</b><p>Nice! Especially in only 11 months. I'll keep my eyes open for the other 4 when I travel to shows.<br /><br />Rick

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Posted By: <b>Steve Dawson</b><p>Nice job Ted!<br /><br />When are you gonna start the All-Uzit-backed set?<br /><br /><br />Steve

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Posted By: <b>Jason Carota</b><p>Amazing accomplishment, Ted. Congrats!

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Posted By: <b>barry arnold</b><p>Meritorius, indeed,TRex.<br />Congratulations!!!!<br /><br />all the best,<br />barry

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Posted By: <b>Ted Zanidakis</b><p>Can you please tell me the meaning of....."Mazal Tov" ?<br /><br />TED Z

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Posted By: <b>Ted Zanidakis</b><p>PAUL<br /><br />First, let me add that I have enhanced this set with 5 (of the 6) super-prints (s-s) that were issued in the<br /> last series having the rare Sovereign 460 backs.<br />And, keep in mind, that I have all 6 of these (s-s) cards with Sovereign 350 backs as part of this basic set<br /> of 404 different subjects.<br /><br />I need 3 cards (Ball, Campbell and Jimmy Collins) from the basic set; therefore, I currently have 401. I have<br /> depicted in the "Sovereign 460" scan (in my initial post on this thread) the 5 s-s cards that I have added to<br /> the basic set....hence, I now have 406 cards....it's that simple.<br /><br />So, I need 3 (basic cards) and 1 s-s (Cobb) to give me a grand total of 410 cards.<br /><br /><br />For anyone reading this who is unfamiliar with the term "super-prints" as applied to the T206 cards, the fol-<br />lowing scan shows these 6 cards. Scot Reader identified these 6 subjects from the 350/460 series as having <br />been printed with more backs than any other T206's. Also, these subjects are unique within their series, as <br />they can be found with American Beauty 350 (with frame) backs. None of the other subjects in the 350/460 <br />series exist with this back.<br /><br />TED Z<br /> <br /><br /><img src="http://www.freephotoserver.com/v001/tedzan/a6superprints.jpg">

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Posted By: <b>Gilbert Maines</b><p>I do not know Ted, can you beat that?<br />Or is the Sovereign back collection the least expensive T206 back approach (independent of the number of cards involved)? I guess the Cobb back set wouldn't count.

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Posted By: <b>leon</b><p>It means "Congratulations" in Yiddish....a form of Hebrew...

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Posted By: <b>Ted Zanidakis</b><p>That is a very good question that you have just asked......"Or is the Sovereign back collection the least expensive T206 back approach".<br /><br />Off the top of my head, I'd say....for starters, if you can avoid the high cost of the Big Six and the 48 So. Lgers (as is certainly true with <br />this Sovereign set)....then, for a T206 sub-set of 400+ cards, this one has to be the most affordable.<br /><br />Now, don't ask me how many $$$$ I have spent acquiring all these cards ?<br /><br />I can say for sure, it was less expensive than when I put together my all-Piedmont set.<br /><br />TED Z

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Posted By: <b>E, Daniel</b><p>It means 'Good Luck', in actual Hebrew <img src="/images/happy.gif" height=14 width=14>, but the inference of its use is to congratulate someone.<br /><br /><br /><br />Daniel

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Posted By: <b>Dan Bretta</b><p>Nicely done Ted!!!<br />

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Posted By: <b>Jim VB</b><p>Ted, <br /><br />You're pulling our leg, right? There is no way, that a grown man, living in the greater NYC area, could not know the meaning of Mazel tov. <br /><br />Maybe you need to get out more!<br /><br />Congrats on the near set!

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Posted By: <b>Jerry</b><p>Congratulations Ted,<br /> Thats what it's all about. I bet your smiling like a cheshire cat. <br /> I just won my first Sovereign 460 card on Barry's auction tonight. The Duffy GAI-6<br />Regards<br />Jerry

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Posted By: <b>Alan</b><p>Here are all of us on the forum saying Mazel Tov to you, Ted<br /><br /><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tz2o0OYjVzU&mode=related&search" target="_new" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tz2o0OYjVzU&mode=related&search</a>=

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Posted By: <b>leon</b><p>My understanding is Germanic, at that....but lets get back to cards...

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Posted By: <b>JimB</b><p>Ted,<br />That is awesome! Congrats! So do you still have the Piedmont set? Are you going for a T206 super set, one back at a time?<br /> Has anybody ever attempted that?<br />JimB

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Posted By: <b>anthony</b><p>impressive...and nice cards to boot!

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Posted By: <b>Ted Zanidakis</b><p>Yes, I still have my all-PIEDMONT set of 518 cards. This all-SOVEREIGN set is my 4th T206 set in the past 26 years.<br /><br />Has anyone ever put together a T206 "Super-Set"....I would think Bill Heitman has had enough T206's in his research<br /> back in the '70s that he, perhaps advertently (or inadvertently), accumulated enough T206's to have one. <br /><br />I have now started on a sub-set of AMERICAN BEAUTY 460 cards. It's a challenge; however, it's a small undertaking<br /> as there are only 75-100 possible subjects to collect.<br /><br />Thanks for your nice words,<br /><br />TED Z

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Posted By: <b>Drew</b><p>Nice going Ted. Best of luck with the American Beauty set. They are one of my favorite backs.<br><br>Drew

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Posted By: <b>peter ullman</b><p>way to go Ted...that's quite the accomplishment...to add to your many others. Here's a tiny bit of inspiration for your next endeavor!<br /><br /><br />pete ullman<br /><img src="http://i72.photobucket.com/albums/i176/ullmandds/scan0004.jpg">

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Posted By: <b>Ted Zanidakis</b><p>PETER<br /><br />For the moment I am content to just collect the AB 460 cards. But, you never know, at some point I might become interested<br /> in collecting all the AB 350 backs, too.<br /><br />I now have about 25 of the 350's.<br /><br />TED Z<br /><br />

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Posted By: <b>John</b><p>Ted, from one T206 guy to another my hats off to you. Way to go, enjoy them I know you will. <br /><br />Hey Ted, what’s next??<br />

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Posted By: <b>Ted Zanidakis</b><p>As I have said, I am currently acquiring American Beauty 460 cards. I like the GREEN colored backs....and perhaps, I'll eventually acquire<br />a Red Cobb with a "GREEN back"....HA, HA ! !<br /><br />TED Z

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Posted By: <b>judson hamlin</b><p>Nicely done, sir.<br /><br />Good hunting at Reading-- see you there.

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Posted By: <b>Ted Zanidakis</b><p>I do hope to see you at the Philly Show in Reading....Oct 12-14.<br /><br />And, I will have T206's with SOVEREIGN backs....Graded and "naked".<br /><br />Joe....what day will you be at Reading ?<br /><br />TED Z

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Posted By: <b>Ted Zanidakis</b><p>I've been very fortunate these past 11 months while putting together this set, as there've been 3 large Sovereign finds.<br /> One from upstate NY (340 cards), a second in Connecticut (approx. 300 cards), and a third from western Pennsylvania <br />(280 cards). So, I'd say without these three finds, I would be at best only 50% complete at this point in time.<br /><br />More importantly, I would be remiss, if I did not list all the Net54er's that have helped me with acquiring many of these<br /> Sovereign's for my set. So, here goes....THANKS GUYS.....<br /><br />Scot Reader<br />Barry Sloate<br />Brian Weisner<br />Steve Murray<br />Art Martineau<br />Scott Brockelman<br />Lee Behrens<br />Ed McCollum<br />Judson Hamlin<br />T206Collector<br /><br />And, Irv Lerner, Peter Lalos, and Al Schiff<br /><br />TED Z

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Posted By: <b>judson hamlin</b><p>Glad to have been of help, Ted. I'll be at Reading on Friday.

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Posted By: <b>Scot Reader</b><p><br />Ted,<br />It is a noteworthy achievement.<br />You are most certainly welcome for whatever help I was able to provide.<br />Scot

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Posted By: <b>Ted Zanidakis</b><p>SCOT R<br /><br />Thanks for all the times you contacted me regarding a Sovereign card on ebay. I won 75% of them and that helped a lot.<br />But, most of all....thanks for all your research and analysis which you did and is very well documented in your T206 book.<br />Reading your book inspired me to put together my all-Piedmont set and now this Sovereign set<br /><br />TED Z.

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Posted By: <b>Alan</b><p>Judson - The Reading show is NOT this Friday. It is Oct 12-14. <br />Ted - Will you be there as usual ?<br />

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Posted By: <b>Ted Zanidakis</b><p>ALAN<br /><br />I'm sure Judson knows the dates of the Reading Show. He is simply noting that he will be there the Friday nite.<br /><br />Yes, I will be there in my usual spot.<br /><br />TED Z

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Posted By: <b>Corey R. Shanus</b><p>Nice job Ted. Quite an accomplishment.

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Posted By: <b>Jerry Hrechka</b><p> Congratulations Ted on a wonderfull achievement.

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Posted By: <b>judson hamlin</b><p>Maybe I just like hanging out in Reading...<img src="/images/happy.gif" height=14 width=14><br /><br />Nah, I meant the 12th<br />

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Posted By: <b>Ted Zanidakis</b><p>Regarding your earlier question......"Are you going for a T206 super set, one back at a time?"......<br /><br />I think the challenge of doing this nowadays would be an enormous undertaking for any one individual to try.<br /> Back in the 1960's and '70s when Bill Heitman (and others) were accumulating 10's of 1000's of T206's for just<br /> "pennies", it was very possible. <br /><br />However, to do this now in a sequential manner (as you alluded to with your question) is virtually impossible.<br /> Perhaps, my Grandson (21 years old) could carry on this "baton", and assemble a T206 Super Set by age 40.<br /><br />However, in a multi-collector, parallel manner, it is not impossible. And, that is exactly what is ongoing with <br />several Net54 members.<br /><br />I have a "complete" 518-card all-Piedmont set (missing the Big 4) and will soon have a complete 410-card<br /> all-Sovereign set. Meanwhile, Lee Behrens has a near complete CYCLE 460 sub-set and last time I checked,<br /> RayB is putting together an El Principe de Gales set. And, I am sure there are other Net54er's doing their<br /> favorite T-brand sub-set.<br /><br />And, now I've embarked on an American Beauty 460 set; and, I'm sure that I'll eventually expand this quest<br /> to an all-American Beauty sub-set. Just with these five examples that I have noted here, we are proceeding<br /> onwards; but, we need a lot more participants in this big adventure.<br /><br />Thanks for asking,<br /><br />TED Z

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Posted By: <b>Richard</b><p>I wasn't aware that any collector had accumulated over 10,000 T206. That is almost unimaginable!

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Posted By: <b>Ted Zanidakis</b><p>"Mr T206"....Bill Heitman....probably went thru 50,000 to 100,000 T206's before he published his book<br /> on this set called "The Monster".<br /><br />I, myself, have gone thru 20,000 - 25,000 T206's since 1980......and, at any given point in time, I've<br /> had as many as 2000 of these cards in my collection. <br /><br />TED Z

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Posted By: <b>Ted Zanidakis</b><p>I acquired a Campbell....so, now I need the following 3 cards; and, any help will really be<br /> appreciated.....email me at.....tedzan11@comcast.net<br /><br />Ball (NY).........150 series<br />Jim Collins.......350 series<br />Red Cobb........460 series (super-print)<br /><br />Thanks everyone,<br /><br />TED Z

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Posted By: <b>RayB</b><p>My sincerest congratulations! Completely awesome! The back specific set is a wonder to behold and 400+ Sovereigns in the same book must look awefully impressive.<br />Your tenacity on this type of endeavor is admired.<br />My best.<br />RayB

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Posted By: <b>Ted Zanidakis</b><p>Thanks guy....<br /><br />Tell me, how is your El Principe de Gales set progressing ?<br /><br />TED Z

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Posted By: <b>Ted Zanidakis</b><p>How's the CYCLE 460 set doing ? <br /><br />I realize it's tough; but, I figure you should have this T-brand nearly complete by now.<br /><br />TED Z

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Posted By: <b>RayB</b><p>Ted - Thanks. A little slow lately. I'm just shy of 70 different. I'm not willing to buy or "bid to win" at all costs and I'm also passing on some of the higher grade examples due to cost.<br />Pigeon holing myself a bit like this slows the wheels of progress but it is fun. I traded for a nice Wagner bat on Right Shoulder today with a collector that is building a Polar Bear back specific set.<br />So I am sure there are others who haven't outed themselves on their back specific efforts.<br />Do you have any additions to the EPDG spreadsheet over the last couple of months? I could use an update if you have one.<br />If you just want to bring the EPDG thread back to the top updated that would be fine too.<br />Warm regards,<br />RayB

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Posted By: <b>Ted Zanidakis</b><p>As you noted, I have started a new Thread listing 276 confirmed EPDG subjects in the T206 set. Please ex-<br />amine it closely and compare it with your collection; and, tell me if you have any additional ones.<br /><br /> I was very fortunate in completiing my Piedmont and my Sovereign sets. In the process I purchased 2 large <br />Piedmont finds. And, while I was assembling the Sovereign set, there were 3 Sovereign finds, from which I<br /> acquired a lot of cards.<br /><br /> Unless, a big find of 100 - 200 EPDG cards are discovered, your your task will certainly be more difficult in<br />finding approx. 300 cards with EPDG backs. All our previous Surveys have shown how tough this T-brand is.<br />Just be patient, it will take you several years and it will be worth it. Email me your list and I will try to help<br /> you with these T206's.<br /><br />Good luck,<br /><br />TED Z

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Posted By: <b>Ted Zanidakis</b><p>I acquired several Sovereign cards for my T206 set at the Philly Show this past weekend. The two that I needed (Ball and Jimmy Collins),<br /> and 6 upgrades.<br /><br />So, I'm now in need of only one....the elusive Red Cobb with a SOVEREIGN 460 back.<br /><br />I'm beginning to think this card is scarcer than the Red Cobb/Ty Cobb back....at least 12 of them are known. Only TWO such Cobb's with<br /> a Sov 460 back have been confirmed.<br /><br />Therefore, if there are any sightings of this Cobb by any Net54ers, please contact me.<br /><br /><br /><br /><img src="http://www.freephotoserver.com/v001/tedzan/acobbtycobb.jpg"><br /><br /><img src="http://www.freephotoserver.com/v001/tedzan/chancematty.jpg"><br /><br /><br /><br /><br />Thanks,<br /><br />TED Z

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Posted By: <b>George Gogol</b><p>Ted,<br /> Congrats on the accomplishment, no small feat! Thanks for sharing your research along the way, and I will keep eyes and ears open for the elusive red background Cobb. Take care.

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Posted By: <b>Ted Zanidakis</b><p>Thanks for you kind words. It's been a great adventure.....but now, it's somewhat frustrating that I am down to one card that I have not seen<br />this past year when I first started this set. And, I'll tell you, between ebay and shows, I have looked at 100+ Red Cobb's and not even a hint<br /> of a Sovereign 460 back. In fact, it took me quite a while to find the Sovereign 350 version of this card.<br /><br />Eventually, the 460 card will show up and then I'll be complaining it costs too much.....I'm hoping an ungraded one in Vg-Ex (or less) shows up.<br /><br />TED Z

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Posted By: <b>Doug</b><p>Saw your list of the EPDG backs - do you have a list of the sovereign back cards? also wondering which ones were availabe with 460 backs?<br /> <br /> <br />lmk & thanks for your time Doug

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Posted By: <b>Ted Zanidakis</b><p>I will post the list here that you want later tonite, or tomorrow.<br /><br />Thanks for asking,<br /><br />TED Z

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Posted By: <b>Doug</b><p>I appreciate it, i really enjoy learning more about these cards - & there is alot to learn.

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Posted By: <b>Ted Zanidakis</b><p>Since there are 410 cards in this set, I will list the 120 "No Print's".<br /><br />I will post this in a new thread today.<br /><br />TED Z