I say the ROCKIES win all....what is your guess ? [Archive]

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10-12-2007, 03:44 PM

Posted By: Ted ZanidakisI'm still grumbling over the Yankees loss....why didn't they start Pettitte in the 1st game, why didn't they....Oh heck....forget about it. Anyhow, I have fond memories of Denver, Mile High Stadium, Colorado Springs, Pikes Peak....so, I am rooting the Colorado Rockies. Who are you rooting for and why ? ? T-Rex TED

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10-12-2007, 03:51 PM

Posted By: ockdayTed..I am also a lifelong Yankee fan. My earliest recollection is of Mazeroski's HR in the 1960 World Series when I was 8 yrs old. It's tough to understand the 1st round "knockouts" of the last 3 yrs..anyways I am rooting for the Indians to beat the "hated" Red Sox. I am rooting for the Rockies to beat Arizona. And I will root for the Indians to win the World Series even though they knocked out the Yanks. so for the next few weeks..GO TRIBE!!! Alan

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10-12-2007, 03:53 PM

Posted By: BobI'm rooting for the Rockies because they have guts and fire and the Injuns to win it all because of my buds Jimi and Bryan from this Board who took me to a Cleveland game this summer and we sat in row 1 behind the dugout. I want them to experience the thrill I had in 1987 when the Twins finally won it all after years and years of heartbreak.

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10-12-2007, 03:57 PM

Posted By: Al C.risafulliI'm rooting for the Yankees. They've come back before, they can do it again. -Al

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10-12-2007, 03:58 PM

Posted By: MattThe Tribe - the City of Cleveland deserves a winner more then any other team in the playoffs.

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10-12-2007, 03:59 PM

Posted By: dennisred sox to win it all. i also wondered why petite did not start the 1st game of the playoffs. i think ol casey made a similar move in not starting whitey ford in game 1 of the 1960 world series.....maybe it is time for torre to go?

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10-12-2007, 04:01 PM

Posted By: peter chaoI'm rooting for the Cubs to win it all...wait, they got knocked out in the first round? I'm rooting for Mark Cuban to buy the franchise and then they win it all. <img src="/images/happy.gif" height=14 width=14> Peter C.

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10-12-2007, 04:07 PM

Posted By: nbrazilgotta go with the team nobody roots for..the d'backs. An ace, solid defense up the middle, a solid bullpen and undeterred scrappiness....all the key elements to a winning WS team!

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10-12-2007, 04:14 PM

Posted By: Tony AndreaI'm with you nbrazil. The D-backs are my choice to from the NL , but I still believe an AL team will prevail this year and win the whole enchilada. Both AL teams left are just to strong. Tony

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10-12-2007, 04:23 PM

Posted By: Patrick McMenemyThis post season is up for grabs...there are no clear favorites. Being that I'm a New Englander, who was born less than 45 minutes from Fenway, I'm always going to pull for the Red Sox. This has been a very strange season for the Red Sox. Other than Josh Beckett, the team has not been consistant at all this year..yet they found ways to win. On the hitting side, Ortiz and Manny have had off years, but Mike Lowell did have a super year. Hopefully, the team will peak going foward. Maybe decent starting pitching, strong closers, timely hitting, and great defense will be enough if luck goes our way. Patrick

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10-12-2007, 04:42 PM

Posted By: peter chaoGuys, Since my Giants are way out of it (last in their division), I'll go with the Rockies just because Troy Tulowitzki their rookie shortstop is from Santa Clara. The guy has a bat with a lot of pop. Peter C.

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10-12-2007, 04:43 PM

Posted By: barrysloateI've lived in Brooklyn or Long Island for my entire life...except for the two and a half years I went to Boston University. And since I went to Fenway Park many times, and my dormitory (West campus) was built right on Braves Field (now Nickerson Field)... Red Sox all the way!

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10-12-2007, 05:19 PM

Posted By: Scot Reader I was fortunate enough to be at Coors Field for the Rox tie-breaker with the Pads and the closing game against the Phils. The tie-breaker game was by far the most exciting baseball game I have ever attended--maybe the best sporting event I have ever attended. Sudden death game, extra innings, five lead changes, Peavy and Hoffman on the hill for the opposition, lots of home runs, walk-off sac fly on a controversial play at the plate--what more could you ask for? These "Generation R" kids can play but have flown completely under the radar with this small market club far removed from either coast. They have the best two through six hitters in the game (Tulo, Holliday, Helton, Atkins, Hawpe all of whom had 90+ RBI), speed at the top (Matsui, Taveras) and the best fielding team. I don't want to jinx them so I best shut my pie hole now. Go Rox!

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10-12-2007, 06:01 PM

Posted By: Ed IveyI lived in Denver when the Rockies were born. Went to see them a few times at Mile High Stadium. They're due. I'm ready for a Rocky Mountain high.

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10-12-2007, 07:23 PM

Posted By: AnonymousNobody but me thinks the Diamondbacks are going to win? I love watching these young guys play, plus I saw most of them play in the PCL down here in Tucson so I have to pull for them. It's Destiny.

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10-12-2007, 08:45 PM

Posted By: Ken W.I live in the belly of Cardinal Country (freakin' Cardinals:( but my two favorite towns to play in are Durango, CO and Flagstaff, AZ, so this NLCS is pretty interesting to me. Probably pulling more for The Rockies because of Helton. Like to see the guy play in a series.

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10-12-2007, 08:48 PM

Posted By: peter chaoThe Rockies are going to win it all, but if they don't it will be because of the Red Sox and Josh Beckett. Peter C.

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10-12-2007, 08:55 PM

Posted By: JimiYeah, I'm pretty sure I'm rooting for the Tribe! I remember the days when Scott Bailes, Miguel Dilone, and Ernie Camacho were some of the better Tribe players. I remember (and who doesn't) when more people knew who Willie Mays Hays and "The Wild Thing", and of course....JOBU were than the real Indians! Might as well have been since they could probably play just as well. Let's not forget losing 105 games in 1991....or the 1987 Sports Illustrated jinx predicting the Tribe to win it all! It's time for Cleveland to have a winner, and this team is so fun to watch! Thanks for backing my Tribe, Bob, and the great time at the game this summer! GO TRIBE!!! Jimi

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10-12-2007, 09:16 PM

Posted By: David DavisSox will win it all. They have both the pitching and hitting advantage over everyone, including the Indians. They will also have home field advantage after beating the Tribe.

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10-12-2007, 09:36 PM

Posted By: peter chaoBeckett and Schilling are tough to beat, but the Rockies are younger and their line-up potent. They also have momentum going for them. The Rockies in six, but if the series goes 7, Beckett will be pitching and the Red Sox will win. Maybe...or maybe not. <img src="/images/happy.gif" height=14 width=14> Peter C.

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10-13-2007, 04:21 PM

Posted By: Scot Reader The Rockies beat Beckett and Schilling on back-to-back days at Fenway earlier this year. Just a thought.

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10-13-2007, 04:54 PM

Posted By: David BAs a life long resident of Arizona I have to say go dbacks. Although I felt betrayed by them for not giving my hometown a minor league team. Yuma, AZ was the spring training site of the Padres for several years. I grew up getting autos of my favorite MLB players in my relatively small city. I once had the dilemma of going left to Tony Gwynn or going right for Ken Griffey Jr.. Got to meet several great players, the greatest being Jim Abbott. A true class act, I prefer character over performance. After the Padres left and AZ got a team I was sure baseball was back. Nope. Oh well. I hope to see them in another World Series. The 2001 series was one of the best I have seen. I almost felt bad for Yankee fans. Almost.

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10-13-2007, 05:11 PM

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10-13-2007, 07:36 PM

Posted By: Mark TSOX ARE HOT.... REDSOX all the way!!!!!

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10-13-2007, 08:47 PM

Posted By: AnonymousDavid Send me some rolled tacos from Mr. G's.

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10-13-2007, 11:33 PM

Posted By: CN Kaz Matsui need I say anything else as a Mets fan. CN

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10-14-2007, 05:08 AM

Posted By: barrysloateThe Rockies-Diamondbacks game ended at 2:45 AM eastern time. Once again, major league baseball is showcasing its best product at a time when the whole east coast is long asleep. I realize these are two western clubs but this is still really stupid marketing.

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10-14-2007, 10:02 AM

Posted By: Eric BrehmBarry I agree, it was difficult even in the Mountain zone to stay awake for the whole game. The schedule seems to be governed by the desire to show the most popular teams (Red Sox, Yankees) in prime time. But maybe, as someone suggested earlier, if the networks would take a longer term view and promote some of the lesser-known teams during the season, these teams would develop more of a national fan base, and the coverage could be more equitably distributed in the future. But they probably have their marketing studies that convince them that would not be the case. Anyhow, here in Colorado we get good local coverage (Fox Sports Network, radio) of the regular season Rockies games so at least we get to see or hear them that way.

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10-14-2007, 10:09 AM

Posted By: JimmyI agree the Rookies are a good hitting team and the series will inlude a lot of hitting, but the Red Sox will win it all Jimmy

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10-14-2007, 10:13 AM

Posted By: Tony AndreaI to was finding myself knodding off a couple times towards the end of the game and I'm on the west coast, so I can only imagine how ridiculous it must have been for anyone wanting to finish the game on the east coast.

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10-14-2007, 10:42 AM

Posted By: barrysloateWhy does major league baseball feel that it is better to have games that end in the middle of the night rather than start one at 3:00 or 4:00 in the afternoon? It would finish up in prime time and a lot more people would watch it. Who cares when the first inning starts- I'd rather be watching the 9th inning at 9:00 in the evening than at 2:00 in the morning. I just don't understand their thinking. If they want to take advantage of prime time, they need to understand that the middle of the night is not the time most viewers watch television.

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10-14-2007, 12:43 PM

Posted By: Ed IveyWhen Coors field opened, every game seemed like the world series. This was a town long yearning for major league. Can't wait to see the home crowd for this, albeit on TV. When I lived there, they had a stupid purple mascot named Dinger. I don't even know if he's still around.

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10-14-2007, 12:57 PM

Posted By: Eric BrehmEd -- Yes Coors Field has been a pretty crazy place lately. Dinger is very much still around. I always high-five him when I pass him in the hall.

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10-14-2007, 12:58 PM

Posted By: Scot Reader Dinger is still around. My daughter has two autographs to prove it.

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10-14-2007, 01:47 PM

Posted By: Dave HornishI just noticed each team in their respective LCS has the same # of wins. Weird.

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10-15-2007, 07:32 AM

Posted By: barrysloateWell, another play off game ended on the east coast a little before 2:00 AM. Can someone explain this idiocy? I guess major league baseball is trying to capture that all important 1:00 AM commercial slot. They show a complete disregard for their fans.

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10-15-2007, 09:01 AM

Posted By: peter chaoBarry, Unfortunately, this is one of baseball's antiquated traditions. I don't remember the last time a playoff game was rescheduled because it was getting too late. Peter C.

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10-15-2007, 09:18 AM

Posted By: Max WederPeter If you can call it an "antiquated tradition", the first night game in World Series was October 13, 1971.

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10-15-2007, 11:40 AM

Posted By: peter chaoGuys, I'm willing to bet there has never been a team hotter than the Rockies going deep into the playoffs. Forget it, they are going to take it all unless Beckett and Schilling cool them off in the World Series. Peter C.

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10-15-2007, 10:53 PM

Posted By: peter chaoGuys, I can't remember the last time a team has won 20 out of 21 games ever. To do this going deep into the playoffs is an incredible feat. Arizona has lost three games in a row and seem to be demoralized by the Rockies, it seems like they are truly a team of destiny. It's called synergy. The Rockies are a much better team than if you just looked at the individual players. Peter C.

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10-15-2007, 11:07 PM

Posted By: Tony AndreaOkay, I concede. D-Backs are more than likely finished. They were still an unexpected joy this year to follow. I will now be cheering for the Rockies and continue to suppport the Nat'l League. Truly an "Incredible Run" the Rockies are on.......... Tony

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10-16-2007, 11:46 PM

Posted By: Brian LindholmeThe Rockies look unstoppable. They do everything right, fielding, pitching, hitting...even the manager's on a roll with everything he picks... Anyways, I can say that my beloved Phillies lost to the eventual World's Champ. My Pick: Colorado over Cleveland 4 games to NONE !

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10-17-2007, 05:22 AM

Posted By: barrysloateHas there ever been a greater rivalry in sport's history than the Colorado Rockies vs. the Cleveland Indians?

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10-17-2007, 06:01 AM

Posted By: Ted ZanidakisWOW.......21 for 22.....OK you "statistics dudes"....when is the last time a Major Lge. team had a run like this ? GO ROCKIES........ TED Z

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10-17-2007, 06:04 AM

Posted By: barrysloateWell, the Oakland A's had a 20 game winning streak in I think 2003. So that would be it.

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10-17-2007, 07:51 AM

Posted By: Rob DewolfGreat point on the rivalry, Barry. The entire baseball world laments that every World Series can't be a Yankees-Red Sox matchup.

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10-17-2007, 07:56 AM

Posted By: barrysloateAnd if major league baseball really wants to showcase their fall classic, they can start all the games at 10:00 eastern time, so that those heart-throbbing extra inning games can all conclude at three o'clock in the morning. That way they can attract the all important demographic they so covet- insomniacs and drunks.

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10-17-2007, 09:38 AM

Posted By: Matt"The entire baseball world laments that every World Series can't be a Yankees-Red Sox matchup." that's to be read with sarcasm, right?

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10-17-2007, 09:40 AM

Posted By: Jeff LichtmanBarry, that is one of the reasons why the baseball TV numbers are so lame. They insist upon starting games too late on the East coast -- how are young fans supposed to watch? A large part of me is laughing my ass off at the Rockies/Arizona matchup which was an obvious ratings disaster and now the possibility that it will be Cleveland in the WS. Next time someone complains about ESPN only showing Yankees and Red Sox games, there's your answer! NO ONE WATCHES ANYONE ELSE!

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10-17-2007, 09:40 AM

Posted By: Max WederBarry and Horace Greeley apparently do not see eye to eye.

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10-17-2007, 09:54 AM

Posted By: barrysloateThe Rockies have come out of nowhere to stage one of the most exciting streaks in baseball history, and I've barely seen any of it. Whoever is in charge of scheduling these games for television is an idiot.

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10-17-2007, 09:56 AM

Posted By: Ken W.Rock on, Anti-East-Coast Teams!!! (Agree that ALL the games should start MUCH earlier).

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10-17-2007, 10:07 AM

Posted By: Eric BrehmJeff, what you say is true, ratings are lower for the less popular teams. But what if the network promoted the lesser known teams more during the season, instead of constantly featuring the Yankees and Red Sox? Is it possible that those teams could develop more of a national fan base, and thus generate more interest when they do make it to the postseason? I don't know the answer to that question, but it is a good one. One of the problems with American business is that the emphasis always seems to be on making money today , or meeting this quarter's sales forecasts. Maybe if they took a longer term, more strategic view of what they are trying to accomplish, they would come out better in the long run. They have the power to shape the market, as well as react to it.

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10-17-2007, 10:18 AM

Posted By: Jeff LichtmanEric, the problem is which team do you push nationally? Certainly not the Rockies, DBacks and Indians at the start of the season, right? And it's too late now to start beating the drum. The bottom line is that people watch the teams that they live near usually and the greatest concentraton of people are around huge cities like NY, Boston and LA. Add in the histories of these teams and you see why ESPN only cares about them. It's sad and unfair -- but business is business.

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10-17-2007, 10:25 AM

Posted By: MattWhy would you not push the Indians at the start of the season? They're not a surprise contender; go back and check pre-season team write-ups from SI or SN. Oh wait - you think they're a surprise because they didn't get national coverage to start the season... edited to add sarcasm

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10-17-2007, 10:26 AM

Posted By: barrysloateI would be thrilled to watch the Rockies even though I paid little attention to them during the season. They are on a streak of historic proportions, and isn't that enough of an incentive for people to watch? Don't fans want to know more about these guys who we never heard of a month ago? And what is this obsession with starting a game in prime time? I don't care about the first inning, I want to see the 9th inning! Start the games early, so that at 10:00 PM they are playing the 8th inning and not the 2nd inning. People will stay up later than usual to watch an exciting finish, but if they are ready for bed and the game is in the bottom of the 3rd inning they are going to bail out. Everyone talks about bottom line, but you only make money if people are actually watching.

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10-17-2007, 10:35 AM

Posted By: peter chaoThe Rockies can't get much hotter than they are now. But they can get colder. If the Boston-Cleveland series drags out, it may be a week or more before the W.S. starts. Hopefully, the Rockies won't lose their edge in that time-frame. Peter C.

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10-17-2007, 10:40 AM

Posted By: Eric BrehmIt is true that teams from larger metropolitan areas, and with longer traditions, especially winning traditions, do have larger fan bases. When the Cubs come out to play the Rockies in Colorado, it seems like the Cubs fans at Coors Field are more numerous (or at least more vociferous) than the local Rockies ones. Many Chicagoans have moved to Colorado over the years. But then Boston is a smaller metropolitan area than either Dallas, Houston, Miami, Washington DC, Atlanta, or Detroit, and the Indians have been around a long time. (The Diamondbacks and Rockies of course, have not.) There must be some wiggle room there to elevate the viewership base of teams other than the Red Sox and Yankees, but whether increased attention by the national media during the season would accomplish this, or how long it would take, I don't know. Now why doesn't Los Angeles, the second biggest metro area in the country, even have an NFL team? That one has always puzzled me.

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10-17-2007, 10:43 AM

Posted By: Kevin AndrewsHere's an idea.... Let ESPN / TBS / Fox broadcast a "Consolation" series between the Yankees and Red Sox (call it the Universe Series and they can play best of 7, 9, 11, or until there hearts content) and all the folks in New York and Boston can watch at whatever time they see fit. They can listen to the biased broadcaster talk about how great A-Rod, Jeter, Ramirez (although he's still the BEST right handed stick I ever seen), Ortiz are for hours on end. Put the real World Series on local TV markets which will be received better by fans in Colorado and Cleveland (if they make it). While I can certainly live with an unbiased description of the game, I don't need to have the Yankees and Red Sox shoved down my throat. Everyone's happy - the networks make their advertising, New York and Boston don't b*&ch and moan about Colorado vs. Cleveland and the Rockies and Indians fans don't have to put up with New York and Boston!

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10-17-2007, 10:43 AM

Posted By: BobI shed no tears for Los Angeles not having a pro football team. After stealing the Lakers from Minneapolis and the Dodgers from Brooklyn, I could care less if LA EVER gets another NFL team :-P

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10-17-2007, 11:05 AM

Posted By: barrysloateDoesn't anyone in Major League baseball have an imagination? Don't they see the Rockies are a great story, and they could play up that story in prime time, and that fans would be happy to watch them? The Yankees are boring- they are overpriced and underachieving. The Rockies are a far better story, but the knockwurst heads who run baseball don't even see it.

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10-17-2007, 11:13 AM

Posted By: Ken W.Did anyone catch Warren Giles' son awarding the NL Championship trophy to the Rockie's ownership after the game? He was great! Really fired up the crowd. Oh wait, you guys were all asleep.<img src="/images/happy.gif" height=14 width=14>

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10-17-2007, 11:32 AM

Posted By: Eric BrehmI was at the game last night and saw the presentation of the trophy by Warren Giles' son Bill Giles after the game. Very emotional moment. I think we Rockies fans still haven't quite grasped what has happened this year. In some ways for me, having been born during the era when there were only eight teams in each league, and there were no playoff series required to determine the championship, winning the National League Pennant is at least as significant and phenomenal as it would be winning the World Series.

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10-17-2007, 11:45 AM

Posted By: jflitIt is great seeing the rockies,with farm system talent,make it to the series.Also that everybody is not talking about the bronces( they suck,lifelong diehard bears fans).I thought they were a few years away from being contenders,now see if I can get series tickets. also Ted yes pikes peak is great,as I sit on my patio ,as i have a beer, an watch a sunset over pikes peak later jeff

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10-17-2007, 12:01 PM

Posted By: Ted ZanidakisIn 1982 I drove to the top of Pikes Peak. What a view from 14,000+ feet (am I right on the height ?). I was very lucky that day as there was no cloud cover. And Jeff....I now live in the town that Zebulon Pike grew up in, in Pennsylvania. TED Z

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10-17-2007, 04:28 PM

Posted By: jflitTed -I moved out in 99 for work,my family loves it out here,the weather is great and the mountains. compared to northwest indiana(to much snow and clouds).and yes pikespeak is over 14,000ft(never been up there yet,wife keeps nagging me to take the kids). later jeff

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10-17-2007, 09:37 PM

Posted By: Ted ZanidakisVery appropriate that Cleveland won the AL....as the National was in Cleveland this summer. Who wants to guess how many games this World Series will go ? Go ROCKIES...... TED Z

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10-17-2007, 10:10 PM

Posted By: MattTribe in 5 in the WS. Pitching in the NL is a joke this season.

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10-17-2007, 10:17 PM

Posted By: Josh AdamsTed, Cleveland is only up 3-1. As any Red Sox fan will tell you, it's not over yet!

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10-18-2007, 07:25 AM

Posted By: Ted ZanidakisI am jumping the gun.....but, I don't think this will be a repeat of 2004 (Boston overcoming a 1-3 deficit). It's over for the Beantowners....if not tomorrow nite, then Saturday. TED Z

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10-18-2007, 07:47 AM

Posted By: Jason LI know we're down, but I have to say I think our chances are improving!

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10-18-2007, 09:46 AM

Posted By: jflitrockies will sweep later jeff

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10-18-2007, 09:57 AM

Posted By: Josh AdamsTed, I agree with you though. Jndians in 5. Go Go White Sox 2005 World Series Champions!

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10-18-2007, 10:05 AM

Posted By: barrysloateI think the Red Sox very well may be done. Haven't a clue though who will take the series. The Rockies long layoff can hurt their momentum.

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10-18-2007, 02:28 PM

Posted By: John Kalafarski As a Red Sox fan, it is clear to me that they are done. They have a fatal flaw: as an organization, they have a philosophy (which they get from Bill James) of not wasting outs through the practise of small ball (some would use the term inside baseball). They almost never use the sacrifice, or the hit and run. Case in point: in game two at Fenway, they had the winning run at second in the person of the speedy Jacoby Ellsbury with no outs in the 9th. They chose to hit away with their three outs which failed to score the run. They went on to loose the game in extra innings. All baseball is situational and to rule out, in this case, the strategy of the bunt Ellsbury to third or to hit to right and send the runner is shortsighted. Francona is playing it too close to the vest, playing not to loose and not to win. Beckett is also having tightness in his back and the Sox will not get out of Cleveland.

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10-18-2007, 08:08 PM

Posted By: Dan P.Quit your grumbling and complaining Ted. The yankees prevented a 4 way division series sweep. So to all you yankee, angel, and fillie fans, wait till next year. GO ROCKIES!

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10-22-2007, 01:48 PM

Posted By: Rob NYCThe pendulum is swinging their way. They are getting hot and won't go cold like the Rockies are getting while waiting for this series to finish. The wait is taking away the Rockies' momentum.

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10-23-2007, 08:40 AM

Posted By: John Kalafarski As a Red Sox fan I saw the Rockies come into Fenway, I think they took 2 of 3, and they looked pretty good. Made contact with the bat and pitched and fielded well. But I never saw them again, so I need help. How will they beat the Sox? What should I look for in terms of team strengths?