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10-13-2007, 08:50 AM

Posted By: Lobert collector<a href="http://cgi.ebay.com/1911-George-Close-Candy-E94-Hans-Lobert_W0QQitemZ170158148829QQihZ007QQcategoryZ868 41QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem" target="_new" rel="nofollow">http://cgi.ebay.com/1911-George-Close-Candy-E94-Hans-Lobert_W0QQitemZ170158148829QQihZ007QQcategoryZ868 41QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem</a> Does anyone know the seller? Wrong back scan maybe or fake card?

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10-13-2007, 08:56 AM

Posted By: leonDear simgin, Your card is an E92 not an e94.....good luck with it. - type-card-collector Dear sir, Our reference is : 2005 ports collector digest standart catalogue for baseball cards. Do you have a better reference. It will help us... Thanks Simon On 11/10/07 21:20, "eBay Member: type-card-collector" <member@ebay.com> wrote: Hi Folks I am an absolutely addicted collector...I know these cards like I know the alphabet. You can tell by the back what series it's from. My reference is the American Card Catalogue by Jeffereson Burdick. He is the one that literally invented the numbering system and "e" is for early gum and candy cards. E94 were Close Candy cards....E92 had 4 different series....but are still E92, and Dockman is one of them..... I also own/moderate an extremely lively chatboard about vintage baseball cards....and have my own website also...You can see these types and many many others under my "personal collection" tab on my personal website...luckeycards.com.....hope this helps... take care leon

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10-13-2007, 08:56 AM

Posted By: Steve MurrayLooks like an e94 to me but Bob is the expert and may chime in. Color looks a little off. Back is definitely wrong as it is an e92. Seller has a number of nice e cards listed so he probably just put up the wrong back scan.

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10-13-2007, 08:59 AM

Posted By: leonI just noticed the front and back don't go together.......Front is E94 but back isn't.....something isn't right...

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10-13-2007, 09:00 AM

Posted By: Steve MurrayThe Lobert is not an e92, it is an e94. It's the back scan that's the problem. Smug smiley face... <img src="/images/wink.gif" height=14 width=14>

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10-13-2007, 09:01 AM

Posted By: Steve Murraycould you please leave your computer for just one minute so I can get a word in edgewise? <img src="/images/wink.gif" height=14 width=14>

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10-13-2007, 09:03 AM

Posted By: leonI need to stay out of other threads what else am I supposed to do? <img src="/images/happy.gif" height=14 width=14> I just emailed the seller that something isn't right here.....we'll see what they say. Maybe the cold weather in Canada is getting to them....?

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10-13-2007, 09:04 AM

Posted By: Lobert collectorIt's an E94 Lobert front, but not an E94 back, obviously. It's either a super rarity, fake card, or mistaken back scan by seller (hopefully). Just wondering if anyone had dealt with this seller previously.

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10-13-2007, 09:19 AM

Posted By: Tony AndreaI think the seller just has his scans mixed up. To me, it looks like the scan of the E92 Dockman back listed in his E94 Lobert auction is the back to his E92 Dockman Bescher he has up for sale. That top left crease matches up perfectly. Although he has many raw cards up for sale, they look good to me. Here is the link to the Bescher card I spoke of that I think is the one shown in his Lobert auction. That back scan in his E92 Bescher auction clearly isn't to that card. <a href="http://cgi.ebay.com/1909-Dockman-E92-Bob-Besher_W0QQitemZ170158148868QQihZ007QQcategoryZ868 40QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem" target="_new" rel="nofollow"><a href="http://cgi.ebay.com/1909-Dockman-E92-Bob-Besher_W0QQitemZ170158148868QQihZ007QQcategoryZ868 40QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem</a" target="_new" rel="nofollow">http://cgi.ebay.com/1909-Dockman-E92-Bob-Besher_W0QQitemZ170158148868QQihZ007QQcategoryZ868 40QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem</a</a>>

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10-13-2007, 09:19 AM

Posted By: barrysloateIt has to be a fake. These are two different companies.

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10-13-2007, 10:33 AM

Posted By: Brian McQueen Guys, did he change the back scans on his auctions? I'm checking the Lobert now for the first time and that looks like an e94 back to me. Front looks ok too.... Am I missing something?

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10-13-2007, 10:36 AM

Posted By: Dave FBrian, His back scan is still showing up as a E92 Dockman back when I click on it. Dave

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10-13-2007, 10:51 AM

Posted By: joeLooks like the back is E94 now. Joe Ty Cobb, Spikes flying!

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10-13-2007, 11:00 AM

Posted By: leonSeems like a nice enough guy..... Dear sir, Thank you so much. It’s a real E94!! I made a mistake with the scan. I have already changed for the right back... Thanks again Simon On 12/10/07 11:01, "eBay Member: type-card-collector" <member@ebay.com> wrote:

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10-13-2007, 12:17 PM

Posted By: BobI've been watching these E94s since they came on and thought the back scan was just an error, that he had an E92 elsewhere and just mixed up the back scans. I still am a little skeptical about the E94s because the green Devore's colors look odd and the blue Lobert looks striking like one I bought raw about two months ago but it may just be his scanner in the first case and a coincidence in the second. This definitely looks like a Paypal instead of cash or check payment situation because of the ability for Paypal to refund for unauthentic cards. If the cards are legit and his and not "lifted" scans, then good luck to the seller!

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10-13-2007, 12:34 PM

Posted By: Jim VBDave, I had the same problem. It's our computers, and it's easy to fix. Your computer's cache memory is retaining the image (the wrong one) from this morning. While on the ebay page, press "Control" and "F5" at the same time. This will do a complete refresh of the page and bring up the new scan he loaded in.

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10-13-2007, 12:43 PM

Posted By: Dave FAhhh. Got ya Jim, thanks

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10-13-2007, 12:52 PM

Posted By: MattBob - Paypal will refund for un-authentic cards? Since when? My understanding with Paypal is that as long as the buyer shipped the card, you are SOL as far as they are concerned. Has anyone actually gotten a refund from Paypal when a card came back from a grading company as forged?

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10-13-2007, 01:01 PM

Posted By: Jim VBI got a Paypal refund last week for a card that had been trimmed. I bought two Sport King cards from the same seller. Scans looked OK. When I got them one had been trimmed an 1/8 inch top AND bottom. Seller basically told me they would do nothing, that they told me in the ad that they "knew nothing about cards" and that the sale was "as is." I filed with Paypal. They told me to return the card, track and prove delivery and then they would investigate. Two weeks later, they gave me a credit. Proving authenticity would be tougher than proving trimming though. You'd have to get it graded inside their time guidlines.

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10-13-2007, 01:44 PM

Posted By: joeTBOB, what about the rest of his cards, are you unsure about those? Joe Ty Cobb, Spikes flying!

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10-13-2007, 02:18 PM

Posted By: Tom Boblittbefore all ALL have been good..............

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10-13-2007, 05:16 PM

Posted By: BobJoe- I wouldn't want anyone not to bid on them on my account or opinion. I am pretty satisfied everything is ok. (That Devore is a weird olive color though...) Bob

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10-13-2007, 07:26 PM

Posted By: MatthewSimon B. is a great guy & a top-notch seller. I have had multiple positive transactions with him & I would have no problem bidding on any of his auctions. I don't see a return policy stated on this particular item, but he used to take returns if the buyer was not happy with the item. I was sort of hoping these would fly under the radar <img src="/images/sad.gif" height=14 width=14>