Someone is claiming my cards as theirs [Archive]

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10-11-2007, 04:26 PM

Posted By: JimBI just received two separate e-mails from the PSA set registry asking me to delete two cards from my E93 set because someone else is claiming them as theirs and wants to register them. Any idea what sort of scam is going on here? I have no intention at all of breaking up my set. Obviously the person claiming these cards does not have them. I replied to PSA as such. I am curious if any of you have experienced this sort of thing or have any idea what is going on. WHy would somebody want to claim cards for a registry set that they do not own? Is it to convince someone they own them and to then try to sell them? JimB

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10-11-2007, 04:28 PM

Posted By: Fred CIs it at all possible that PSA has made a mistake?

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10-11-2007, 04:31 PM

Posted By: leonI think your hunch is correct. Why would anyone want to claim someone elses card for other than deceitful purposes? regards

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10-11-2007, 04:38 PM

Posted By: barrysloateAnd what proof does PSA require for one to register a set? If I call them and say I completed a particular set in PSA 9, will that suffice to get me to the top of the registry?

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10-11-2007, 04:43 PM

Posted By: JimBThe general way to do it is to input the certification #s of the cards. So whoever is doing this has seen cert #s, either in old catalogs or somewhere. I am pretty sure that I have not posted scans of at least one of the cards here. And when I do, I usually cut it down to just the card so the flip is not visible. JimB

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10-11-2007, 04:45 PM

Posted By: Eric BrehmIn order to register a card (as part of a set) on the PSA set registry you have to know the PSA serial number. If you enter a serial number that is already being used by someone else on the registry, it will not let you add the card; in that case PSA sends an e-mail to the current registrant asking them to delete the card if they no longer own it, or contact customer service if they do.

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10-11-2007, 04:47 PM

Posted By: Frank WakefieldSeems to me, and I don't know anything about the grading and registry stuff, but if a scammer sent PSA the numbers and got them "registered", that would be a good first step to then auctioning the "images" on eBay, with a line in the auction about how the cards are in their registry...

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10-11-2007, 04:49 PM

Posted By: barrysloateWhat if the guy with the number #1 set upgrades a card and sells it to the guy with the #2 set. When #2 calls in the serial number, won't he be told it belongs to somebody else? I guess both guys would have to call in together.

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10-11-2007, 04:52 PM

Posted By: Eric BrehmBarry -- Guy #1 has to delete it from his set before Guy #2 can add it to his.

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10-11-2007, 05:03 PM

Posted By: Fred CIf you already registered these cards in YOUR name then why isn't PSA questioning the people that are trying to register the cards in their name. Obviously they data base this stuff because they knew you had it in your registry. What's really stupid here is that I can get any of Jim's E93 slab numbers right off of the PSA web site. For example, Jim's E93 PSA9 (holy cow) Mordecai Brown card has a slab number of 09043215. Maybe I'll be a pain in the but and locate all of Jim's registered sets and then pick a few from each one just to have PSA annoy Jim with emails to have him remove the cards from his registry. Makes sense to me... PSA must stand for Pretty Stupid Anuses.

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10-11-2007, 05:08 PM

Posted By: barrysloateA PSA 9 E93?...that's sheer witchcraft!

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10-11-2007, 05:14 PM

Posted By: Fred CBarry, I think the word "sheer" is probably why it's a "9". Look at that thing, you can tell it's trimmed.... just kidding Jim...

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10-11-2007, 05:14 PM

Posted By: Scott SI've had the situation where I purchased an item and tried to register it, only to see that it was in someone else's registry. When I contacted PSA, they contact the other registry seller, who is supposed to contact them. If they don't contact PSA, they ask the new person to provide a scan of the front and back of the item. If you provide them, they remove it from the original registry and will add it to yours (or tell you to add it to yours at that point, and it won't be blocked).

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10-11-2007, 05:17 PM

Posted By: Fred CHoly crap, he's got 5 other "9" E93s, including Cy Young... Ok, I can appreciate the registry a little more... edited to add - I think I 'm going to grab Jim's E93 scans and register the set as MINE!

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10-11-2007, 05:32 PM

Posted By: JimBI got a call from the other person and he is a good friend and board member - not a scammer. Sounds like a computer glitch or something. I have to get to a meeting, but will report back later. jim

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10-11-2007, 05:39 PM

Posted By: Fred CI just hope we don't hear your friend was trying to register some T206 (or other) cards with the same cert numbers... Edited to add: is it possible the Dali Lama has a sense of humor and a friend at PSA?

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10-11-2007, 08:14 PM

Posted By: barry arnoldGlad that things are working out ok now, JimB. I know this incident was both a pain and scary. Great piece about you in Old Cardboard, by the way. all the best, barry

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10-11-2007, 09:59 PM

Posted By: JimBWell it is halfway straightened out. On one of the cards I upgraded in the same grade (buy the card not the holder) and forgot to switch out one for the other on my registry set. I did so tonight and my friend can now add his. On the other card, it seems we both have the same cert. # for the same player but each of ours are in different grades. Maybe it is a computer glitch or they mistakenly gave two cards the same #. Will find out more tomorrow. JimB

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10-11-2007, 10:28 PM

Posted By: Eric BrehmI made the same mistake recently -- uploaded a new scan to the registry but forgot to switch out the cert #. Didn't realize it until I sold the original card and got the e-mail from PSA. I guess sometimes it's good to look for innocent explanations before criminal conspiracies (not that there aren't criminal conspiracies out there).

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10-11-2007, 11:40 PM

Posted By: MartyI had 59 of the 60 Yuengling cards on the PSA Registery. I put up scans of every card. I sold off some of them and I retired the set. THe next time that I looked, someone else listed a set and used all 59 of my certs. I notified PSA and they took it off. The only reason that I can think that someone would do this is to sell the #1 set.

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10-12-2007, 06:00 AM

Posted By: Joe D.Jim, I can understand the possibility - I sometimes sit at home and pretend your cards are mine. <img src="/images/happy.gif" height=14 width=14>

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10-12-2007, 08:40 AM

Posted By: Jason Land competitive (I know, basically just Christmas and Easter)..., honestly though, I love looking through the Pickup threads with an attitude of "Okay, what did we get today?!" I love this place. I hate to say it, but all your cards are my cards!!! (Insert maniacal madman laugh here) Just remember to practice Safe Collecting, because any card you've claimed has likely been claimed before and therefore been claimed by another, and so on...so always wash your hands after handling!

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10-12-2007, 01:51 PM

Posted By: JimBThe problem is now completely resolved. The two Griffith cards in fact had different cert #s, but it seems a computer glitch caused a problem which recognized them as the same when my friend tried to register his. PSA quickly resolved that problem. JimB

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10-12-2007, 01:53 PM

Posted By: JimBI just wanted to add that I am quite happy that there was no mischievious actvity going on in this case. I was suspicious, but wrongly so. jimB

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10-12-2007, 02:29 PM

Posted By: Eric BrehmJim -- can't blame you for being concerned, given all the scams that are going on in the industry nowadays, especially on eBay. It is a little unsettling that PSA accepts card scans as 'proof' that a person owns a card, as we all know how easy those are to pilfer from online sources. Anyhow, glad the story had a happy ending.

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10-12-2007, 02:47 PM

Posted By: Richard MassonI hate to admit it, but the registry people at PSA are really competent and helpful. Now if they could only work on their ability to grade cards....

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10-12-2007, 03:22 PM

Posted By: Eric BrehmI have had good customer service from the registry people too. I was looking at some Collectors Universe annual reports recently and they see their Set Registry programs as a powerful marketing tool that create "a competitive aspect to collecting that adds to its excitement" and that increase preference for their brands and demand for their services. So I guess it is no surprise that they devote a lot of attention to that part of their business. It has worked very well for them.