1924 Aguilitas Cards

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Posted By: <b>Phil Garry</b><p>Anyone know what happened to a large group of individual lots of 1924 Aguilitas cards that were posted on e-bay a couple of days ago and now all of the seller's auctions seem to have have disappeared?

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Posted By: <b>Joseph</b><p>You mean these?<br /><br /><a href="http://64.233.169.104/search?q=cache:uczW4VJJGhkJ:sports-cards.listings.ebay.com/Cards_Baseball-Negro-Leagues_W0QQsacatZ78152QQsocmdZListingItemList+Agu ilitas+baseball&hl=en&ct=clnk&cd=2&gl=us" target="_new" rel="nofollow">http://64.233.169.104/search?q=cache:uczW4VJJGhkJ:sports-cards.listings.ebay.com/Cards_Baseball-Negro-Leagues_W0QQsacatZ78152QQsocmdZListingItemList+Agu ilitas+baseball&hl=en&ct=clnk&cd=2&gl=us</a><br /><br /><br />If you mess around on Google you can find cached versions of most pages, like this:<br /><br /><a href="http://72.14.209.104/search?q=cache:Dc9SAHgFzNgJ:cgi.ebay.com/Cuba-1924-24-Aguilitas-869-O-CHARLESTON-baseball-card_W0QQitemZ320155086075QQihZ011QQcategoryZ78152 QQcmdZViewItem+Aguilitas+baseball&hl=en&ct=clnk&cd=1&gl=us" target="_new" rel="nofollow">http://72.14.209.104/search?q=cache:Dc9SAHgFzNgJ:cgi.ebay.com/Cuba-1924-24-Aguilitas-869-O-CHARLESTON-baseball-card_W0QQitemZ320155086075QQihZ011QQcategoryZ78152 QQcmdZViewItem+Aguilitas+baseball&hl=en&ct=clnk&cd=1&gl=us</a> <br /><br /><br />eBay giveth...eBay taketh away...<br /><br />

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Posted By: <b>Jeff Mohler</b><p>It wasn't me. Nice group though. These don't come up too often.<br /><br />Jeff

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Posted By: <b>Misunderestimated (Brian H.)</b><p>As of 9/7 the seller (a "Power Seller," no less) is no longer a registered user on eBay. I wonder what that's about??<br />

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Posted By: <b>E, Daniel</b><p>If ebay brought in a 'you must run auction full term' standard. If you want a buy it now option, it already exists. All the bs reasons for ending early are, well, bs. If you want to advertise your card and solicit high bidders to sell privately, I think an alternate venue could be started (feel free ebay if you like the idea) for this purpose. <br />Otherwise, please just run the stupid number of days you've agreed to, in an auction format everyone else is agreed to. <br />We as buyers are commited to act as though our bids are binding us to a contract, why the heck shouldn't a seller's...?<br /><br /><br />Pee's me off no end.<br /><br /><br /><br />Daniel

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Posted By: <b>Jim VB</b><p>Me too. Although I have begun to notice a new wrinkle. I have seen one of the board's longtime "favorite" sellers list some pretty high end, pricey cards (nothing too exotic, but stuff that would sell for the $5000 and up range). He usually lists one at a time, WITHOUT ANY SCAN! He states in the listing that he will be unavailable to answer any questions until 24 hours before the auction ends, but will post scans and answer all questions at that time. Then the auction runs for 5-6 days and he suddenly takes it down (Item is no longer available.)<br /><br />In the last month I've seen him do this with a high grade T206 Cobb red back (PSA 6 or 7, maybe), a 52 Topps Mantle (PSA 7) and a 52 Bowman Mantle (PSA 9). <br /><br />I think he's using it to draw searches to his other cards. I don't think he has ever owned one of these items. It's "marketing" at the cost of a listing fee.

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Posted By: <b>Mark</b><p>They are up again....

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Posted By: <b>Chad</b><p>Now let's all go back to pretending we never saw this.<br /><br />--Chad

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Posted By: <b>Dave</b><p>does anyone know if this is the same seller that was listing the questionable "Polar" cards on Ebay last winter. I can't remember the sellers name, but he/she also had some obvious fake "Punch" cards listed also around the same time.

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Posted By: <b>Phil Garry</b><p>Dave:<br /><br />I know what you are talking about but I don't know if this is the same seller. The feedback history would not go back far enough to give specific item details if this were the case, unless you can figure it out from the comments left.

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Posted By: <b>Chad</b><p>I honestly don't remeber, though. <br /><br />--Chad

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Posted By: <b>Ryan Christoff</b><p>No.<br /><br />-Ryan<br /><br />

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Posted By: <b>daniel rodriguez</b><p>HELLO, I AM THE SELLER OF THE AGUILITAS. ROLANDO, A FRIEND IN CUBA TALK TODAY TO A FRIEND ABOUT THIS FORUM AND I DECIDE TO WRITE IN IT. THE CARDS WERE CLOSED SOME DAYS AGO BECAUSE EBAY SUSPENDED MY ACCOUNT FOR MY RELATIONTCHIP WITH OTHER EBAY ACCOUNT: PENSFOREVER AND SOME PROBLEMS OF PAYMENTS TO EBAY. I MADE THE PAYMENT AND THEY OPENED FIST THIS ACCOUNT AND I DECIDED TO LIST THE SOCCER AND BOXING AGULITAS THERE. AFTER THAT THEY RETURNED ME THE OTHER ID: FOUNTAINPENS, AND I LISTED THE AGUILILTAS AGAIN. I NEVER HAVE A DEAL OUT OF EBAY WITH A POSSIBLE BUYER OF THE CARDS. MANY PERSONS WROTE ME ASKING ME FOR A BUY NOW PRICE BUT I WANT TO SEE THE AUCTION. I WAS NOT THE SELLER OF THE POLAR CARDS. YOUC CAN CHECK MY FEEDBACK. I AM A SERIUS SELLER. CHECK THE AUCTIONS AT <br /><a href="http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQsassZfountainpens" target="_new" rel="nofollow">&lt;a href="<a href="http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQsassZfountainpens&lt;/a" target="_new" rel="nofollow">http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQsassZfountainpens&lt;/a</a>" target="_new" rel="nofollow"&gt;<a href="http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQsassZfountainpens&lt;/a</a>&gt" target="_new" rel="nofollow">http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQsassZfountainpens&lt;/a</a>&gt</a>;<br /><br /><a href="http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQsassZpensforever" target="_new" rel="nofollow">&lt;a href="<a href="http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQsassZpensforever&lt;/a" target="_new" rel="nofollow">http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQsassZpensforever&lt;/a</a>" target="_new" rel="nofollow"&gt;<a href="http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQsassZpensforever&lt;/a</a>&gt" target="_new" rel="nofollow">http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQsassZpensforever&lt;/a</a>&gt</a>;<br /><br />good luck to bidders.<br />

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Posted By: <b>daniel rodriguez</b><p>dear bidder<br />hello, i am the seller of the aguilitas. problem was that ebay closed my account for some days for some problems with payment in others of my account:pensforever. they returned me the two ids and i listed aguilitas again. good luck.<br />

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Posted By: <b>daniel</b><p>i recieved this e mail from ebay about one of the bidder in my cards<br />Hello fountainpens (derod2003@yahoo.com), <br /><br />This email is to inform you that any recent bids placed by elrey may have been by an unauthorized third party. We are now in the process of restoring the account to its true owner. <br /><br />If this person was the winning bidder for the transaction then the transaction in question should be considered null and void. You may relist the item and request a credit for the Final Value Fee. When a seller submits a final value fee credit request, unpaid Items are automatically identified by our system. Our system will then keep records of the credit requests that are received from sellers regarding transactions that were not completed. <br /><br />You may file a "friendly" unpaid item dispute (UPI) remark in order to request the fees for your auction and this will not negatively affect this member's account. You can request a Final Value Fee credit through Unpaid Item Disputes by following the steps below: <br /><br />1. Go to the eBay home page <br />2. Log in to your My eBay page <br />3. Under the "Related Links" box on the left side of the page, click the "Unpaid Item Disputes" link <br /><br />For more information on how to request a credit, I encourage you to view our Frequently Asked Questions page below: <br /><br /><a href="http://pages.ebay.com/help/policies/unpaid-item.html" target="_new" rel="nofollow">http://pages.ebay.com/help/policies/unpaid-item.html</a> <br /><br />Thank you for being an asset to the eBay trading community. We wish you continued success with your transactions on eBay. <br /><br />Regards, <br /><br />Customer Support (Trust and Safety Department) <br />eBay Inc <br /><br />THEN I DECIDE TO BLOCK HIS BIDS.<br />

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Posted By: <b>Phil Garry</b><p>Anybody from this board win any of the 1924 Aguilitas cards that were on e-bay a couple of weeks ago? Have you received them?

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Posted By: <b>Chad</b><p>I made what I thought were aggressive bids on 4 cards and was blown away. One of the Pop Lloyds went pretty cheap, though. My days of getting bargains on 1920's Cuban cards of Negro Leaguers may be over.<br /><br />--Chad

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Posted By: <b>Kenny Cole</b><p>I won 7 of the commons and have already received them. I'm now 4 commons and the Oms away from completion.

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Posted By: <b>Chad</b><p>Man, that is one hell of a set to be able to finish.<br /><br />--Chad

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Posted By: <b>Wesley</b><p>Congrats Kenny. That is an incredible accomplishment.<br /><br />I bid on three of the five HOF cards on ebay, but was outbid on all. Those cards despite being ungraded sold for very strong prices. The one bargain was the Pop Lloyd/Joe Baseball card mentioned by Chad. Originally that card did not meet reserve but when relisted was quickly purchased as a BIN by a forum member.

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Posted By: <b>Jeff Mohler</b><p>I am casually working on the set. I got Morin at the $99.00 opening bid. I received it last Wednesday or Thursday. I thought the card was nicer than it appeared in the scans.<br /><br />Jeff