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08-17-2007, 06:17 PM
Posted By: <b>Dave Hornish</b><p>If the 92% feedback wasn't enough: <a href="http://tinyurl.com/2zs5q7" target="_new" rel="nofollow">http://tinyurl.com/2zs5q7</a>

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08-17-2007, 07:16 PM
Posted By: <b>Jim VB</b><p>I saw that. <br /><br />She also has a '52 Mantle that looks shaky. Plus, she didn't scan the items. She took digital pictures, with a flash, instead. Posted the pictures sideways. and her ebay name is something like "russiannadia". And she lives out of the USA where tracking her down would be tougher. <br /><br />Gee... What makes you say it's fake?

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08-17-2007, 09:13 PM
Posted By: <b>David Smith</b><p>The seller will also not allow the winning bidder to pick the card up in person. This to me sounds like they have sold fake stuff before and then had to confront an upset buyer.<br /><br />David

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08-17-2007, 09:27 PM
Posted By: <b>bcornell</b><p>From the description on her '52 Topps Mantle, "Unfortunately I cannot offer pickup. I have been burned on meetups before and do not feel comfortable doing it"<br /><br />3 guesses about those 'meetups':<br /><br />A. Episode of "Cops"<br />B. Mail-order bride<br />C. A truckstop was involved<br /><br /><br />Bill

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08-17-2007, 09:37 PM
Posted By: <b>David Smith</b><p>To all,<br /><br />This is one (of many) reasons that I would like to be as wealthy as Bill Gates or Warren Buffett. I would see crap like this and bid on it. I would win (no matter what) and find out what their home address was. I would mail a check and then go to their city and be at their home with the local Police when the chack arrived.<br /><br />A second reason would be I could own a large number of shares in eBay and have a direct say in these matters as far as getting listings removed and having the authorities investigate the sellers.<br /><br />David

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08-19-2007, 08:47 AM
Posted By: <b>Dave Hornish</b><p>Well, somebody needs to do something. A large skunking just took place, complete with shill bidding. Unbelieveable. Just looking at the photo on ebay you can tell it was done on a computer printer.....

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08-19-2007, 10:00 AM
Posted By: <b>Robert {Bigb13}</b><p>How do you know there was shilling? We only see what Ebay wants us to see which is Bidder Numbers, no names. Thats why when an item goes above $200 I stop bidding because I don't know if there is shilling going on.Rob&nbsp;

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08-19-2007, 10:27 AM
Posted By: <b>Dave Hornish</b><p>Some low # bidders had very high percentages bid with this seller. You can hover over their bidder # and get stats (which I don;t think you can get, oddly enough, on sub-$200 bids that show actual ID's.

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08-19-2007, 11:17 AM
Posted By: <b>Jim VB</b><p>There was clearly bad bidding on the Mantle at least. (I don't know if you can have "good" bidding on phony items.)<br /><br />Early in the day there was a $5000 max bid on the Mantle which took out the underbidder's high of $4500. The seller then cancelled that bid because of "bad feedback." That took the underbidder back to the top spot, but put his bid back to around $2500. However, everyone knew what his max bid was. Over the course of the evening, it got walked right back up.<br /><br />It sold to a brand new ebayer. I truly hope the bid was a fake so no one but the seller got burned.

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08-19-2007, 02:08 PM
Posted By: <b>Robert {Bigb13}</b><p>And yet another one, <A href="http://cgi.ebay.com/1909-1911-T206-Ty-Cobb-Bat-Off-Shoulder-sweet-caporal_W0QQitemZ250152895373QQihZ015QQcategoryZ86 841QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem">http://cgi.ebay.com/1909-1911-T206-Ty-Cobb-Bat-Off-Shoulder-sweet-caporal_W0QQitemZ250152895373QQihZ015QQcategoryZ86 841QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem</A>