Questions about slabbing cards........................

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Posted By: <b>Ralph</b><p>I have a few questions about having cards slabbed.<br />Question 1: What Company would you guys recommend & Why?<br /><br />Question 2: What are the fees?<br /><br />Question 3: I have always wondered if a card is slabbed shouldn't the company slabbing the card put the card in a penny sleeve? I am thinking if the card is not in a penny sleeve I have seen someone open a card & it stuck to the holder,has anyone else ever seen this or think it is possible? I am not sure why that card did that my only thought would be humidity.<br /><br />Question 4:When shipping cards to the companies do you ship Registered Mail?<br /><br />No more questions & I thank-you for taking the time to read & I hope I get some answers.<br />Regards,<br />Ralph.

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Posted By: <b>Jeff Prizner</b><p><br />1. SGC or PSA - depending on which cards you're getting graded<br />2. various fees - check their websites<br />3. probably better for the card if they did, but does take away from visual appeal<br />4. for higher $ cards, Registered Mail is the way to go (most safe form of shipping)<br /><br />

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Posted By: <b>Ralph</b><p>What's the biggest cards they slab as the card I may get slabbed is 5" X 6" along with other regular sized cards.Are some companies more strict than others?

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Posted By: <b>Sean BH</b><p>For larger cards you will probably pay in the $55 range(oversized). Most cards in the $500 and under range are around $15 for SGC or PSA. To get cards graded by PSA you need to join the club for $100 and it comes with a certificate for 6 free gradings, a year of the SMR report and a fancy messenger bag. <br /><br />I think SGC grades tougher on most cards, but if you're keeping them for your collection they look best with the black border they use.<br /><br />Sean BH

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Posted By: <b>JK</b><p>1. SGC - a bit tougher, but more consistent and better looking slabs.<br />2. Fees vary depending on how quick you want the cards returned and how much they are worth.<br />3. Ive cracked out numerous cards from slabs and have never seen a card stuck to an sgc, psa or gai holder. I think that is more likely to happen when you put a card into a screw down holder and you tighten too much.<br />4. I use ups or registered mail depending on how valuable the cards are - the more valuable, go with registered.<br />5. Look at the websites - sgc and psa both grade oversized cards. SGC also has a list of cards that it wont grade.

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Posted By: <b>Ralph</b><p>Thanks guys for the replies I think now I will checkout the sites & make a decision.<br />Regards,<br />Ralph.

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Posted By: <b>Dave F</b><p>Ralph, I'm curious what type of card it is your looking at having graded if you dont mind sharing the information.

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Posted By: <b>Paul S</b><p>"Most cards in the $500 and under range are around $15 for SGC or PSA."<br /><br />How does a grading company determine the price of a card? Would PSA take an average of what PSA cards sold for in the past month? How do they know they've obtained info on them all? Do they take an average, and them post current prices on their website so the submitter will know? And, if a submitter doesn't know in advance what a card will grade, how does he/she know how much to send?

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Posted By: <b>Dave F</b><p>Paul, basically you value the cards yourself you send in...I've always put the value at what I paid for the card raw. <br /><br />Now if you put a $2000+ card in with a $500 or under limit submission...rest assured you will get a phone call from PSA or SGC...<img src="/images/happy.gif" height=14 width=14>

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Posted By: <b>Ralph</b><p>I am into Hockey cards presently & the card is one I got off ebay at a very decent price.I think the card may grade a 9 or 10,it's from the 1971-72 Topps set ,Mr. Bobby Orr.Someday I may get back into the older stuff but I enjoy the Hockey cards and I enjoy telling the things I learned about the older tobacco issues,I focused my collection back then into the Minor league cards & occasionally I find some at garage sales or antique shops.Next week I hope to hit the Fle Markets in Maine as I have seen some very sweet cards from that state & I had to bid on them at a live auction I believe it was in 1987,cards were found in a barn loft of all places,included were over 75 Old Judge cards Commons & Hall of Famers,A T-206 Green Background Cobb with a Soverign background I won that card for $210.00,the Old Judge cards were in the 9 pocket sheets & I won 5 sheets & the price per sheet was a average of 30-45.00 each & the final item I won was a nice box of assorted "T" & "N" cards & the N cards were the Old Judges.It was a great day & one I will never forget.

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Posted By: <b>Jim Dale</b><p>Having looked hard now at most of the grading services and the like I'd say SGC is the best choice in Vintage, PSA the best choice is 1950's - 1980's and BGS is the best after that. Just my opinion - they all have faults, benefits and the like.

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Posted By: <b>Paul S</b><p>I was wondering about that. Well, there goes my theory about declaring a higher value in hopes of a 10! <img src="/images/wink.gif" height=14 width=14>

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Posted By: <b>Ralph</b><p>I think I may dive in and get my cards graded,I spend a bunch on the flimsy plastic sheets & binders plus by getting them graded it does increase the cards value signifigantly.The 71-72 Topps Orr I bought I paid $45.00 for & if it comes back mint it hops to $250.00 now I am in now way implying on selling the cards to make a profit but the question I want answered is this:Why do some members think if we collector's get our cards slabbed we are only in it for the $$,can't we still enjoy it the same way the members enjoy the "RAW" cards? I do believe the pendlum swings both ways,Yes? <img src="/images/wink.gif" height=14 width=14>

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Posted By: <b>Bob</b><p>Although I sometimes use GAI, I prefer SGC, brutal grades and all, especially with regard to the oversized cards. GAI's holder for oversized card needs work, PSA's will let the card bang around and slide from side to side. My Zeenuts fit comfortably in their SGC holders even though they are often harshly graded because of tiny back writing or other small flaws disproportionate with the final grade. The SGC oversized holder is very sharp looking also.

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Posted By: <b>Ralph</b><p>I am glad you brought the zeenuts up with the grading companies.Now I collected those cards back in the 80's & I remember the cards could be found with a coupon.Now do the grading companies take the coupon into consideration. So what I am trying to say if for example peter pumpikin eater sends in a zeenut with an attatched coupon & you send in the same card but minus the coupon does that hurt your cards grade? I know about the population report so I would tend to believe that it would put the card with the coupon at a higher grade in the registry.Am I correct? I am asking these questions because I am new to this & I hope you guys don't mind helping just like I don't mind helping with stories of the older T cards,hey this board serves a purpose & that be to help one another out & stand united as one happy collecting family.Gee that sounds corny,LOL <img src="/images/happy.gif" height=14 width=14>

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Posted By: <b>barry arnold</b><p>Not corny at all, Ralph---you express the essence of the best of our<br />collegiality very,very well.<br />I,like Tbob, am an SGC fella who will use GAI once in a blue moon.<br />All my 512 different T206s are in slabs, in a mix of personal safes and a<br />safe deposit box. The cards are protected and safe with no effort on my part.<br /><br />Great having you with us.<br /><br />all the best,<br />Barry<br />

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Posted By: <b>Ralph</b><p>Barry I was leaning towards SGC & yes I know some of you are thinking the 70 cards are shiny stuff but I disagree with that.Those cards are not easy to find in high grades & I get the same thrill finding such a high grade & I am now only going after all of Bobby Orr's cards but I will not entertain any cards of Bobby that have been made in the 90's & earlier.So his last card is the 1980 Special card.He has numerous inserts & it is something I enjoy so why not.I hope to someday find a nice big Tobacco card collection as I know here in New England it is Very,very possible.Congrats Barry on your T-206 cards & keep on a slabbing <img src="/images/wink.gif" height=14 width=14>

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Posted By: <b>Ralph</b><p>I am now a slabber & I see nothing wrong with it as I stated earlier anyone who slabs a card is not a automatic flipper.I can do what I wish with MY cards just like everyone can do with theirs but I honestly after thinking about it I feel this is the way to go.I am part of the Parade <img src="/images/wink.gif" height=14 width=14>

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Posted By: <b>Steve f</b><p>Bobby Orr... Can't go wrong there. An all-time class act.

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Posted By: <b>Ralph</b><p>Steve yes Mr. Orr is a class act and I am very happy he is going to do a personal signing of my 1971 jigsaw puzzle the puzzle looks like a oil painting & really shows the golden boy's true colors.