Grading cards--setting the value

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Posted By: <b>Bill Stone</b><p>When submitting cards to be graded how do you value the cards? Let me give you two examples and ask you what to do:<br />Example 1 -I bought a T210 Series 6 card a year ago for $450. It was in very poor condition but I needed it to complete a series so I paid top dollar -<br />Example 2-Back in the 1980's I bought a Clemente 1955 Topps in excellent condition ( except for a small red dot on his pants -which appears to be a printers ink thing) OK Seinfeld fans I know what's coming! In any event I paid about $150.00 for it. When submitting these cards say to SGC what do I put for a value --and by stating a value does that effect how well it might grade. Thanks in advance for your opinion.

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Posted By: <b>Bob</b><p>Bill- I always use as a value my considered replacement value. I know SGC and GAI must scratch their heads when I send them a card which is a little beaten up but has a high listed value but if the card is truly very tough, I figure what it is worth to me, not necessarily SCD's guide.<br />tbob

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Posted By: <b>Andrew</b><p>When shipping to SGC/PSA we state values - and pay a premium accordingly - in case of loss or dameage. I assume the grading company files a report, they get paid, then we get reimbursed. Or maybe they reimburse before being paid. Supppse I value a T206 common that has a market value of $50 for $3000 and pay the premium for that insurance tier, would the grading company still reimburse me $3000? If not, then shouldn't I get a refund for selecting too high of coverage?<br><br>"Take your life in your own hands and what happens? A terrible thing: no one to blame." -- Erica Jong

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Posted By: <b>Jimmy Piccuito</b><p>When grading, I always use what I have paid for the item, so I know at least I can get an equal return on my investment if something should happen. When placing an order for your cards shipping costs can get expensive, so if you write down the true SMR or SGC value you may pay double or triple for shipping.<br /><br />Jimmy<br />

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Posted By: <b>Jason L</b><p>Hoping to piggyback on related, relevant topic rather than hijack...<br /><br />If you submit cards for grading at a show, are you expected to bring in a submission with all paperwork filled out (and possibly packed in a box)? or do they have all the paperwork there for you to fill out?<br /><br />figures to be a great way to save on shipping costs, right?<br /><br />AND...then how/why do stated values matter???<br /><br />Thanks to all !<br />

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Posted By: <b>jay wolt</b><p>Andrew - I would think you would have to justify the card's value in<br />case the package was lost. If they graded the card a PSA-1 or SGC-10<br />and its a common T206 w/ common back worth about $20. No way are they<br />going to compensate you for a few thousand as you valued it.<br />The Post Office works the same way, you must show proof that the lost<br />package is worth x amount. If I sell a card on eBay of $75 and its insured<br />for $200, you must show proof that its worth $200 like a receipt from<br />Paypal from the winning bidder. They do not just hand you a payment for $200.

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Posted By: <b>David Smith</b><p>But Mr. Piccuito, what about this situation; I have 16 Star Player Candy cards from 1928 which I want to get graded. This represents 22% of the set. Three of the cards are Hall of Famers (Sewell, Speaker, Traynor) and one is unique and wasn't known until I came to this board and showed a scan of it (Buddy Myer). I paid $3 to $5 dollars a piece for these a little over 10 years ago. <br /><br />Right now, they are in hard plastic top loaders in the safety deposit box. I would like to get them graded so they are protected better but also because if something were to happen to me, my Mother and Nephew (I am Single with no kids) would know what these are and it would be easier for them to sell if they had to.<br /><br />Of the players I own, I have only seen the Speaker offered for sale. They wanted $900 for it and it was in VG'ish condition. The SCD big book said that card in VG was valued at $600. I have a $1,000 dollar standing offer for one of the commons from the set because a person collects this player and does not have a Star Player Candy card of him. <br /><br />A couple of years ago, a Jesse Haines card sold on eBay for a little over $400 dollars. More recently, a George Kelly card graded PSA 3 sold on eBay for $869.99. Then there was an SGC 20 Hack Wilson which just sold in the last Mastro Auction for $763 (not including the juice). Three Hall of Fame players selling for more than book price. Then there is the Myer card. <br /><br />One collector supposedly has 71 of the 73 cards in the set but does not have Myer (obviously since it is, so far, a unique card). What would he or some other person pay for it?? The Big Book lists it as a common but is it really a common??<br /><br />I have puzzled over what to do about this situation for six months just because of the valuation question. If I don't value them high enough and they are lost, stolen or damaged in transit, then I wont get enough money back to replace them (I know, good luck trying). Then again, if I value them too high, then the cost of grading goes up. <br /><br />Unlike most on this board, I do not have a lot of money (at least right now) and these cards are some of the centerpieces of my small Pre-War collection.<br /><br />So, what do I value these cards at?? What I bought them for ($3 to $5 dollars each)?? SCD Big Book guide value?? Big Book for the commons and Big Book + 1/3 for the HOF'ers?? I don't know. So, they continue to sit in the bank.<br /><br />David

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Posted By: <b>Bruce Babcock</b><p>Jason, they will have all the forms available at whatever show you attend. They can help you fill out the forms if needed. You can also fill out the forms in advance.<br /><br />The assigned value affects the grading tier. I've found there is room for some give and take there. If you pick the "same day" or "next day" option you can certainly save plenty on shipping, as well as gaining some peace of mind by eliminating temporary third party possession of expensive cards.