1889 Old Judge Cabinet Checklist

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Posted By: <b>leon</b><p>I was going through stuff and adding it to my website last night and found this to put on there...Thought I would share for all of you Old Judge Cabinet Collectors. I have seen a few of these but we don't see them too often....<br /><br /><img src="http://luckeycards.com/pocouponoldjudgecabinets1889.jpg"><br /><br />edited title...

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Posted By: <b>Silver King</b><p>Very cool. My great great grandfather was Silver King and played for the St. Louis Browns. I have one of his cabinet cards so it's interesting to see how people ordered the cards. I'm interested in collecting anything with the name King on it so if you ever think of selling this coupon, please let me know.<br /><br />Question: Was the Western Association as big as the National and American Association in 1889 or was it considered to be a minor league?

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Posted By: <b>barrysloate</b><p>The Western League was a step below the other two, although it's interesting to see a pair of Hall of Famers listed, Clark Griffith and Kid Nichols.<br /><br />I wonder if Goodwin kept these cabinets in stock, or if each one was made to order per request.

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Posted By: <b>Tom Boblitt</b><p>like a 5-fold horizontal one. Similar content, maybe earlier or later in the promotion. I'm sure Jay could weigh in on if there are variations to the individual lists themselves. I know there are a number of variations to the mechanical trade card for OJ where they note you can order the cabinets on the back of the trade card. Yours is in very nice shape for the issue.....<br /><br />Think technically its a checklist. The coupons are orange and blue......<br />

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Posted By: <b>Jay</b><p>Tom--There are two different 1888 checklists and this 1889 checklist.

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Posted By: <b>Tom Boblitt</b><p>You must have that ESPN............<br />Wow....you're quick........6 minutes........<br />Do you normally run at such a high service level?<br /><br />The 1888's are the horizontal 5 folds I think?<br />

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Posted By: <b>paulstratton</b><p>Cool piece. When they do come around, what would be an approximate price range be for one of these?

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Posted By: <b>Tom Boblitt</b><p>$100-$300 depending on condition. Generally $150-$200. Haven't exactly been looking heavily lately, so those prices MIGHT be a bit outdated.......<br />

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Posted By: <b>jay wolt</b><p>Leon - Neat piece!<br />Odd that the Philadelphia Athletics of the American Assoc.<br />is the only team listed by its nickname instead of by city<br />or state. Perhaps it was so no one would confuse it w/ the <br />Phialadelphia Quakers of the National League.

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Posted By: <b>Jay</b><p>The first 1888 checklist is quite a bit smaller than the second as alot of teams were added to the latter.

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Posted By: <b>leon</b><p>Like I said I was going through stuff that was layng around in my office and scanned and added this to my site so thought I would share it, that's all. I knew it wasn't a coupon but made a mistake. Heck, it says it's not a coupon on it....I think I have a coupon at home laying around somewhere so might try to scan it to my site this evening and post it here. I think $200-$350 would be the current range in value.....Glad a few folks enjoyed it. I do....but then again I love the hobby. It probably shows....

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Posted By: <b>Tom Boblitt</b><p>You usually see them for $30-$75, maybe more...........

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Posted By: <b>leon</b><p>I concur with you Tom...I hope no one thought I was saying several hundred for the coupons.....I was talking about the checklist.....I have seen a few checklists on ebay and the prices were about what I said from what I remember....

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Posted By: <b>Kevin Cummings</b><p>Coupon actual size is approximately 1 3/8" x 2 3/4".<br /><br /><img src="http://members.aol.com/kkkkandp/coupon_fr.jpg"><br /><img src="http://members.aol.com/kkkkandp/coupon_bk.jpg">

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Posted By: <b>Paul</b><p>Interesting to see Bid McPhee on the list. To my knowledge, none have been found. Has anyone here ever heard of one being found?

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Posted By: <b>Dylan</b><p>Not a collector of OJ cabinets so i dunno. Are the Western league cabinets tougher since the teams are from more obscure areas? Id imagine a lot of people ordered players from their home town teams so the bigger the city the better chance to find players from that team?

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Posted By: <b>Jay</b><p>I have never seen a McPhee cabinet. I've always considered this strange since people chose the player they wanted and McPhee was a star for Cinc. Since people did choose who they wanted it should come as no surprise that the most common cabinets are those of Anson and Kelly. Cabinets of players from smaller cities, especially non-stars, tend to be very scarce.

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Posted By: <b>Jay</b><p>Here's one not on the checklist<br /><br /><br /><img src="http://www.network54.com/Realm/tmp/1182866172.JPG"> <br /><br />edited size

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Posted By: <b>barrysloate</b><p>Jay- how many people do you think ordered the Tasmanian Speaker of the House?

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Posted By: <b>Jay</b><p>At least one. Obviously, this is a cabinet from Australia. It is a little known fact that Goodwin & Co issued cards in the UK and Australia, different from those in the states. Apparently in Australia there was a program where one could order cabinets similar to what was done here. I have also seen an Old Judge cabinet of an Australian boxer. These cabinets are extremely rare. I have never seen the comparable Australian cabinet checklist, assuming one exists.

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Posted By: <b>barrysloate</b><p>There was the famous around the world tour that lasted from the fall of 1888 to the spring of 1889. Both England and Australia were among the stops. Any connection?

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Posted By: <b>Jay</b><p>Barry--I don't think so because the cards issued there were not baseball related.