When did Peck become Peck & Snyder

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Posted By: <b>Max Weder</b><p>Here's an 1867 reference to Andrew Peck's shop at 105 Nassau Street<br /><br /><img src="http://photos.liveauctioneers.com/houses/pbagalleries/12714/2290_2_lg.jpg"><br /><br />An earlier thread in December 2004 <a href="http://tinyurl.com/27d7t2" target="_new" rel="nofollow">http://tinyurl.com/27d7t2</a> referred to the address for the Peck & Snyder 1869 cards and the 126 Nassau Street and 22 Anne Street addresses, with a reference to a photo in Baseball Treasures of an 1866 copyright.<br /><br />Can anyone add anything regarding Andrew Peck? Perhaps I'm just assuming this store became part of Peck & Snyder.<br /><br />Thanks,<br /><br />Max

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Posted By: <b>barrysloate</b><p>If Andrew Peck was still independent in 1867, and was certainly teamed with Mr. Snyder by 1868 (the Brooklyn Atlantics trade card is a P & S) then that pretty much dates the beginning of their partnership to 1867-68. If that is true, then what is the real date on the Jim Creighton P & S? Is it more like late 1867 or early 1868? We've always assumed that was the first of the photographic trade cards the company produced.

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Posted By: <b>Hal Lewis</b><p>According to the ads in my Beadle Dime Guides...<br /><br />the 1867 versions say "Andrew Peck & Co., 105 Nassau"<br /><br /><br />while the 1868 versions list:<br /><br />"Peck & Snyder, 105 Nassau"<br /><br /><br /><br />This is consistent with the NYC directories from that time as well.<br /><br /><br />Peck & Snyder obviously merged with each other at some point in 1868... probably early in the year before baseball season when the dime guides came out.

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Posted By: <b>davidcycleback</b><p>There was always debate about the Creighton. Some thought it was produce before 1868, some after, but no one was certain.<br /><br />Good find, Max.

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Posted By: <b>Hal Lewis</b><p>Or of course they could have merged in late 1867 after the season ended and the dime guides stopped printing for that year.<br /><br />Regardless, if the Creighton is a "Peck & Snyder"...<br /><br />it cannot be any older than late-1867.<br /><br /><br />He died in 1862... but I don't think anyone ever actually thought that the card was issued that early. <br /><br />It has always been considered a later-produced tribute card as far as I was aware. Still an incredible card, nonetheless. <br /><br /><br />It may have been produced before the 1868 Atlantics card... or may have been done at the same time.<br /><br />Probably before, if I had to guess.<br /><br />

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Posted By: <b>barrysloate</b><p>Because six of the seven known P&S were issued between 1868 and 1870, I always thought the one that we can't accurately date- the Creighton- had to be pretty close to the others. I saw the back of it many years ago and I wish that Corey could provide a scan for us, because it is almost certain that it is earlier than all the rest. There is a biography of Creighton on the back with "Peck & Snyder" in rather small print, smaller than any of the others. Therefore, it is almost certainly the first, and I would date it no earlier than late 1867 and probably early 1868. There wouldn't be a several year gap between that one and the others.