I got shut out of Mastro & Some prices that shocked you

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Posted By: <b>Dan Kravitz</b><p>I did not win one lot in Mastro. I would have thought in 2 days and a 1,000 lots I could have beat out one of you for a couple cards, but no such luck. What did you win? What prices shocked you to be either too high or low? <br /><br /><br /><br />

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Posted By: <b>Jeff Lichtman</b><p>Dan, say it once more with feeling!<br /><br />I thought that the Lionel Carter Cobb E102 SGC 6 that went for almost 26K was surprisingly high. Also, the Cobb autographed T205 for almost 13K!<br /><br />

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Posted By: <b>Steve Murray</b><p>A quote from Mrs. Murray as she and I were reviewing some of the items:<br /><br />"Too many rich old white men out there" <img src="/images/happy.gif" height=14 width=14>

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Posted By: <b>Jason L</b><p>...and I can only hope to be one of them someday! <img src="/images/happy.gif" height=14 width=14>

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Posted By: <b>rob</b><p>I won two lots at what I think are reasonable prices...which probably means I over paid.<br /><br />REA today, very excited there is some great stuff.<br /><br />Dan - you going to take out your anger today by over-bidding early and often ?? <img src="/images/sad.gif" height=14 width=14>

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Posted By: <b>leon</b><p>I had about 35 bids on different lots. I think I was bridesmaid on 1-2 but didn't win any. There was nothing I "needed" only a few things I wanted. Big difference for me in that aspect. If I need something will go all in....If I only want it....not so much "all in".....Good luck today for everyone bidding in REA...

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Posted By: <b>Eric Brehm</b><p>Among T206's and 1933 Goudeys that I was tracking, prices came out about as I expected. About 1.5x to 2x book value for the T206's, and around book value for the Goudeys. Somewhat surprising was the 1951 Bowman Mantle SGC Mint 9 that went for $162,412 with buyer's premium; it was a nice one to be sure, but that is incredible.

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Posted By: <b>Mike</b><p>There were two things I badly wanted. In the scheme of things, there is nothing I need. I ended up bidding on only one thing, due to the slowness of it all. I have no patience for slowness. I was in the running until late in the game. It took so many minutes to see what the winning bid was, I quit. So I am not sure how much I got out bid by. I guess I don't need to know. Nice things in the auction however.

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Posted By: <b>Peter Thomas</b><p>Bid on 15+/- lots, really only one that I wanted badly. E103 Lajoie, upgrade from 3 to 5, got my second bid in at the absolute max I was willing to go and there were still 2 more bids. $285,000 for 38 Goudey set - a lot of change.

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Posted By: <b>Cat</b><p>Again, those e90-1 Joe Jackson cards (Thursday) surprised me. The SGC 30 went for $17,100 and the SGC 40 for $30,000. Yikes.

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Posted By: <b>Steve Murray</b><p>Did they surprise you on the high side or the low side? I thought they were on the low side but admit I have little experience with this card.

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Posted By: <b>Cat</b><p>The Mathewson 1914 CJ SGC 30 going for $10,800 I thought was a steal.<br /><br />Many of the E107s went for lower than I thought.

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Posted By: <b>Cat</b><p>Steve:<br /><br />I thought they were VERY high. Both cards were very nice for the grades, but I would have expected the 40 to go for $20Kish (or less) and the 30 for $13-14 (or less).<br /><br />

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Posted By: <b>peter ullman</b><p>mint 38 goudey Joe D...shocking to me!!! 120+K...wow! 14 cj matty seemed kinda cheap!<br /><br />pete in mn

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Posted By: <b>Tony Andrea</b><p>I think they were right in line if you take into consideration what this set's been doing. <br />If I would have had the funds to snag one for my set, I would have definately done it.<br />The demand for this card in presentable condition as these were, out does the supply<br />available.<br /><p>Tony

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Posted By: <b>paulstratton</b><p>The M116 blue background near set...22/24...for $45, 000.

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Posted By: <b>Anonymous</b><p>the Croft's Candy Cobb.I agree that the Jackson rookie and the Carter SGC 80 e102 Cobb were out of this world!

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Posted By: <b>Wesley</b><p><br />$134K for the E107 Wagner<br /><br /><br /><br />

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Posted By: <b>Cat</b><p>Right Wes, I thought it was a bargain too. <img src="/images/happy.gif" height=14 width=14>

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Posted By: <b>Richard</b><p>Wesley, were you shocked that the E107 Wagner went too high or low?<br />

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Posted By: <b>Cat</b><p>Of Dan's two part question, folks seem to be conveniently avoiding part A which is: "what did you win?"<br /><br />OK, I'll go first and divulge one card I won: T206 Speaker Drum Back<br /><br />I am real excited about this and didn't have to pay an arm and a leg.

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Posted By: <b>Richard</b><p>my first 19th century card . . . and a HOF rookie! right?<br /><br /><a href="http://photobucket.com" target="_blank"><img src="http://i69.photobucket.com/albums/i52/rman444/64428a.jpg" border="0" alt="Photo Sharing and Video Hosting at Photobucket"></a>

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Posted By: <b>Cat</b><p>Catch the fever Richard! It's a good time be collecting rookies! The market has went to H in a handbasket and everything is cheap right now!!! <img src="/images/happy.gif" height=14 width=14>

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Posted By: <b>Steve Murray</b><p>Already posted on JC's Slow thread but since you were kind enough to ask:<br /><br /><img src="http://www.network54.com/Realm/tmp/1177735049.JPG"> <img src="http://www.network54.com/Realm/tmp/1177735066.JPG">

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Posted By: <b>Jay</b><p>Richard--That is the same image of Welch as in the rare composite Wood cabinet that is Lot 30 in REA. Congratulations!

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Posted By: <b>Brian Weisner</b><p>Moved pictures to the new thread.....

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Posted By: <b>Wesley</b><p>Richard and Cat, <br />I actually thought the E107 Wagner might have gone for more. It is an awesome card.

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Posted By: <b>rob</b><p>I will put it in the other post.

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Posted By: <b>JimB</b><p>I was not surprised by the E107 Wagner either. I would not have been at all shocked if it was in the 150-175 range. I was surprised at what the SCP one went for last year.<br />JimB

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Posted By: <b>quan</b><p>agreed with wes and jim. i think it's a great card and still very undervalued.<br /><br />edited to add utterly shocked at the e90-1 jax prices and also how much the e95 cobb went for. i only monitor caramel stuff so it's nice to see other perspectives to compare etc...

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Posted By: <b>scott brockelman</b><p>the Mastro card and the SCP card are one and the same<br /><br />Scott

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Posted By: <b>Wesley</b><p>Over time, the price paid last night could prove to be quite a bargain. I've always thought the E107 Wagner (along with the T210 Jackson and the Baltimore News Ruth) was on the short list of cards that could replace the T206 Wagner as the premier twentieth century card.

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Posted By: <b>Joe D.</b><p>before the auction, I thought 180.<br /><br />If I had the money to spend -<br />it would have been *THE card that I would have wanted in all recent auctions.<br /><br />love that card.

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Posted By: <b>Dan Bretta</b><p>The E107 Wagner to me is barely a baseball card. It's Honus in a business suit.

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Posted By: <b>scott brockelman</b><p>Bar None, less than 10 examples known, with only 7 confirmed, from the toughest baseball card set of all time. You really can't do much better than that.

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Posted By: <b>Jason L</b><p>a fine card on its own merits to be sure, but I share your preferences for baseball cards depicting players in their uniforms, rather than formal wear of the time...those "suit cards" might as well be GQ advertisements, as far as I am concerned...but that's just my opinion and my dollars matter not in that market! <img src="/images/happy.gif" height=14 width=14>

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Posted By: <b>Joe D.</b><p>I kind of took a liking to the 'street clothes' cards when I briefly dabbled in the Mayo's.<br /><br />I think the street clothes makes me like it more.

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Posted By: <b>Paul</b><p>I don't know what I think of the price of the E107 Wagner in the abstract. But I am surprised that the E107 Young was just a rounding error compared to Wagner.

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Posted By: <b>Brett</b><p>I thought the e107's would have sold for alot more money. I wish I had an e107 !

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Posted By: <b>scott brockelman</b><p>they were some of the more common HOFers, even the Cy Young is one of the easier to find E107 Hofers. Had they been without back damage and tougher Hofer's they would have seen a lot more action. These particular ones have traded hands several times in the last few years, a few board members have been in the ownership loop on these.<br /><br />edited to add, if you ever wanted to but a HOFer this was a very oportune time.<br />

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Posted By: <b>barry arnold</b><p>shut out bidding on 4 Horner photos. Tinker was a beaut, but ended up out of my range.<br />gave up too quickly on elberfeld. down to the wire on<br />Taylor and Murphy.<br /><br />next time.<br /><br />best,<br /><br />barry

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Posted By: <b>Jay</b><p>Scott--What are you talking about? How can you say the E107 set is the toughest set of all time. Here is a list of tougher set for starters: Lone Jack, Kalamazoo Bats, Four Base Hits. If you are talking about tougher sets to complete how about Old Judge. It has never been completed in any form. No question that E107s are tough but lets keep it real.

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Posted By: <b>scott brockelman</b><p>I was talking in terms of 20th century T and E card sets, with Wagner in the sets.

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Posted By: <b>Jay</b><p>Now I understand

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Posted By: <b>Joe_G.</b><p>I really only had interest in one lot, the 1887 World Championship Program (REA) but couldn't pull the trigger on the next price up. Congrats to whoever won it at $6500.<br /><br />In watching the auction, I thought there were some good values like many of the N173 NY cabinets (Mastro) that went individually. The N172 HOFers were all over the map; some went very reasonably while others carried high premiums.<br /><br />I'm with Kevin Cummings and others who are hoping some of the larger lots are broken up and shared with others.<br /><br />Best Regards,<br />Joe Gonsowski

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Posted By: <b>Dan Koteles</b><p>I like the Horners and got shut out on the 4 I pursued .I really wanted the Boss Schmidt but 3k+ with the juice...uh-uh.<br /><br />I would have emailed you the seal situation , but your email you was not available. Thanks for having heart.

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Posted By: <b>Dan Koteles</b><p>do you have the whole set of e107's? what do you think about the Mello Mints?....has a set ever been done ?<br /><br />I was missing Wagner- Cobb -Matty for completion in 1998. I sold for the right reasons ,but would have liked to had completed if possible .After that I ended up with a Mathewson Greg Schwartz found a Cobb and I had seen 2 Wagner battings. If ever completed and most were mid grade...except maybe the Matty ,Cobb and 1 common...what would be a guess on the set price completed ?<br /><br />MOst everyone of all the high end ones came from Broadway Rick....including the large group of e94's and e103's that I had. That guy had some cards back in the day.

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Posted By: <b>Peter Thomas</b><p>After missing Mastro E103 Lajoie, I got the REA E103 Cobb - pretty good upgrade on my set from a 2 to a 4 . Made 1 more bid than I wanted to, but woke up this AM to see that it had held. Scott nice pick up on the TTT Burkett does your old one need a new home?

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Posted By: <b>scott brockelman</b><p>Scott

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Posted By: <b>Dan Koteles</b><p>I enjoyed the reply

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Posted By: <b>barry arnold</b><p>Dan Koteles<br /><br />Thanks for the note of support.<br />Sorry that you lost,too! <img src="/images/sad.gif" height=14 width=14><br />I know that there was a bit of 'controversy' over the Murphy identity;<br />was this the seal issue that you're referring to.<br />anytime that you need me the easiest way to email me is at the university: barnold@uwf.edu<br /><br />all the best,Dan<br /><br />Barry

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Posted By: <b>scott brockelman</b><p>I did not have time to post before leaving at Noon. I do not have the complete set, No one does. I still need a few as do 4 other collectors.<br /><br />Scott

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Posted By: <b>Jeff Williams</b><p>Please email me at jwilliams81@mac.com in regards to your E103 set.<br />Thanks in advance<br />Jeff Williams

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Posted By: <b>Richard</b><p>Is e107 the toughest t or e set from the 20th cent?<br /><br />I don't think anyone has ever completed:<br /><br />t216 mino<br />t216 virginia extra<br />e105 mello mint<br />e125 american caramel<br /><br />There are less wagners from each of these sets than e107 wagners.<br /><br />

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Posted By: <b>Dylan</b><p>E222, E125, Texas Tommy, Darby's, and T208, Mino, Victory, Obak cabinets all tougher then E107. E107's are tough but there are several pretty darn obscure 20th century sets around that are REALLY tough.