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02-02-2007, 12:35 PM
Posted By: <b>Kyle</b><p>Hey Everyone,<br /><br />As I was reading the 400+ post thread of madness, a random idea came into my head.<br /><br />Wouldn't it be cool to see what type of collection could be developed if every active board member (or atleast those willing to contribute) donated/parted-with one card from their collection/tradelist/etc. worth atleast $10-$15. If 100 cards were received, wouldn't it be neat to see what was all in the collection?<br /><br />Then I started thinking what would something like that be worth - 100 random vintage cards. No better way to find out than to auction it.<br /><br />Then I thought, well what an even better reason to auction it off with 100% of the proceeds from sale were donated to a charity.<br /><br />Would anyone participate in an endeavor like this if it was hosted by one of the large auction houses in which they offered to receive all donations, catalog and sell the "charity auction" in one of their upcoming auctions? Buyer would pay shipping, insurance but no premium. All donations could be sent in by a specified date, and perhaps acknowledgments of those who donated could also appear on the last page of the auction catalog, and if possible on the website.<br /><br />It'd be pretty cool to see how many items would be sent in, and if a really generous collector would be willing to fork over several hundred dollars, or maybe a couple grand for the lot knowing that the money was going straight to a good cause.<br /><br /><br />-Kyle-<br />

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02-02-2007, 12:39 PM
Posted By: <b>mark</b><p>Its good to give once in a while. I have a few cards around for it.

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02-02-2007, 12:40 PM
Posted By: <b>Wesley</b><p>Didn't one of the forum members do this for the hurricane relief/ Red Cross a few years ago? I am not sure how much money was raised, but maybe he would be interested in hosting such a charity auction again.

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02-02-2007, 01:14 PM
Posted By: <b>Steve f</b><p> The missus and I cleaned out the hobby room of modern duplicates and lower end vintage. We raised over $1000 one week for Katrina using eBay's Mission Fish. <br /> The buyers were WONDERFUL and grabbed up all my shaqs, jordans, bonds, lindros, bledsoes, mcgwire etc. and some beater Goudeys, strips and Tobaccos. If they had been regular auctions, the crap wouldn't have moved nearly as fast.<br /><br /> <br />This one generous buyer couldn't get enough; <br /><br />+who needs "brownie"? wish they coulda got help 2 the victims this fast! AA++<br /> Buyer dreaminoutloud( 683) Sep-11-05 15:34 5237582949 <br /> <br />+who needs "brownie"? wish they coulda got help 2 the victims this fast! AA++<br /> Buyer dreaminoutloud( 683) Sep-11-05 15:34 5237611233 <br /> <br />+who needs "brownie"? wish they coulda got help 2 the victims this fast! AA++<br /> Buyer dreaminoutloud( 683) Sep-11-05 15:33 5237613771 <br /> <br />+wish they coulda got help 2 the victims this fast! AA++<br /> Buyer dreaminoutloud( 683) Sep-11-05 15:32 5237615766 <br /> <br />+wish they coulda got help 2 the victims this fast! AA++<br /> Buyer dreaminoutloud( 683) Sep-11-05 15:32 5237622475 <br /> <br />+wish they coulda got help 2 the victims this fast! AA++<br /> Buyer dreaminoutloud( 683) Sep-11-05 15:32 5237626249 <br /> <br />+wish they coulda got help 2 the victims this fast! AA++<br /> Buyer dreaminoutloud( 683) Sep-11-05 15:31 5237634450 <br /><br /><br />PS; the Red Cross is still hurtin'. For more info;<br /><br /><a href="http://www.missionfish.org/About/about.jsp" target="_new" rel="nofollow">http://www.missionfish.org/About/about.jsp</a><br /> <br />

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02-02-2007, 01:20 PM
Posted By: <b>peter chao</b><p>Kyle, Guys<br /><br />I like the idea, why don't we donate the money to the United Nations. How fitting...considering the amount of bickering we get on this Board...it's amazing the UN can function at all. <img src="/images/happy.gif" height=14 width=14><br /><br />Peter

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02-02-2007, 02:13 PM
Posted By: <b>Kyle</b><p>I saw this potentially being more successful if the auction was run those one of the house's catalogs. Not saying its going to be some amazing deal or opportunity, but it could generate some PR too for the charitable organization, the house that co-sponsors it and those who contribute.<br /><br />The fun thread will be determining which charitable cause to donate to.<br /><br />By the way, if we could just HAVE our Net54 Auctions, we wouldn't need an auction house. (That was a joke, ha ha)

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02-02-2007, 02:39 PM
Posted By: <b>JK</b><p>This was done for Hurricane relief after Katrina. Ted Golden ran the auction.

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02-02-2007, 02:42 PM
Posted By: <b>Kyle</b><p>Ted, where are you? Want to try it again? Was it worth it? Do you think it worked well?<br /><br />

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02-02-2007, 03:01 PM
Posted By: <b>JK</b><p>I also doubt very much you would get a major auction house to agree to this, but you never know. As far as getting the board together on a charity - short of a natural disaster, forget about it. Just look at the original steak dinner thread and you will understand.

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02-02-2007, 03:41 PM
Posted By: <b>Dan Bretta</b><p>I think you could get a major auction house to do it...and it would be cool and good publicity for them if they would match the final bid.<br /><br />How about this charity: <a href="http://www.woundedwarriorproject.org/site/c.iqLTI2OBKlF/b.1109075/k.9013/Headquarters.htm" target="_new" rel="nofollow">http://www.woundedwarriorproject.org/site/c.iqLTI2OBKlF/b.1109075/k.9013/Headquarters.htm</a>

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02-02-2007, 03:46 PM
Posted By: <b>JimB</b><p>Great idea. Agreeing a charity could be a bit challenging. I would suggest something as politically neutral as possible. For example: cancer research or aids research or something like that.<br />JimB

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02-02-2007, 03:52 PM
Posted By: <b>peter chao</b><p>Kyle, Jim<br /><br />Cancer and Aids research are high profile charities that already obtain a lot of Foundation money. Our auction might obtain only $5,000 or so. Let's give it to less high profile charity that can really use the money.<br /><br />Peter

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02-02-2007, 03:55 PM
Posted By: <b>Dan Bretta</b><p>Well I think everyone supports the injured soldiers coming back from Iraq. I don't think there's any conflict there.

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02-02-2007, 04:59 PM
Posted By: <b>barrysloate</b><p>Ah, that NYC dinner thread will never die. And since I initiated it, I guess I bought myself a bit of immortality.<br /><br />I think we could run a charity auction right here on the board. There would be no overhead, and since the cards would be donated, we wouldn't have to worry about whether or not they sold for full value.<br /><br />But what charity are we playing for?

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02-02-2007, 07:15 PM
Posted By: <b>Dylan</b><p>I think 5,000 dollars could do its most good with one of the charities that donates food and medical supplies to impoverished areas in the world. a little can go a long way when it comes to feeding children.

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02-02-2007, 09:43 PM
Posted By: <b>peter ullman</b><p>i would donate a card...that's a cool idea...but only if the lot is sold as a whole...and I agree that having it in a major auction would be best.<br /><br />pete ullman

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02-02-2007, 09:49 PM
Posted By: <b>john/z28jd</b><p> Since this is a baseball forum and we collect cards of the old players why not donate the money to BAT,the baseball assistance team,which helps retired players who dont have enough money<br /><br /><a href="http://mlb.mlb.com/mlb/official_info/community/bat.jsp" target="_new" rel="nofollow">http://mlb.mlb.com/mlb/official_info/community/bat.jsp</a>

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02-03-2007, 06:07 AM
Posted By: <b>Kyle</b><p>I like John's charity idea. The new question is is how many items would the lot need to have to be remotely successful? Then the next step is trying to get a house to help us out too.<br /><br />-Kyle-<br /><br /><br />

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02-03-2007, 06:14 AM
Posted By: <b>Dan Bretta</b><p>BAT is a great idea.

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02-03-2007, 06:19 AM
Posted By: <b>Dave</b><p>So what is the universal thought on the dollar value of the cards that would be donated?

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02-03-2007, 06:20 AM
Posted By: <b>JimCrandell</b><p>I will contribute with two qualifications:<br /><br />1)It go to a dealer whose ethics in the hobby are unchallengeable(like Barry).<br /><br />2)The charity is politically neutral or to the right of center. Doesn't have to be Operation Rescue--just no leftist cause charities.<br /><br />Jim

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02-03-2007, 06:27 AM
Posted By: <b>Jim Loewke</b><p>I like Dylan's idea of feeding the hungry children the best; nothing against BAT but feeding kids who otherwise would be going to bed hungry seems like a better destination for help. I also think the dollar goes farther in foreign countries for getting food and medicine.

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02-03-2007, 06:32 AM
Posted By: <b>JimCrandell</b><p>I would recommend a charity which assists the veterans of the Iraq war.<br /><br />Nothing against woerld hunger but we should make this something for people in the United States.

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02-03-2007, 06:33 AM
Posted By: <b>Bill Stone</b><p>How about the National Baseball Hall of Fame.?

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02-03-2007, 06:34 AM
Posted By: <b>Dan Bretta</b><p>If we get an idea hatched here maybe Leon could throw up a new poll about where the money should go. I like the idea of it going to BAT or the injured soldiers coming back from Iraq/Afghanastan.

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02-03-2007, 06:36 AM
Posted By: <b>john/z28jd</b><p>Instead of trying to pick one charity idea which you will never get everyone to agree on why not have more than one charity and the person donating can decide where they want the money to go so instead of having one huge lot,you can have 3 or 4 smaller ones.Im sure youll get more donations and bidders that way

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02-03-2007, 06:38 AM
Posted By: <b>Jim Loewke</b><p>More than one destination is a good idea; anything to get more involvment is better.

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02-03-2007, 06:39 AM
Posted By: <b>Kyle</b><p>Now I like John's flexible charity idea. Plus if I was donating a large sum of money, I'd be more inclined to donate more if I could choose the cause.<br /><br />-Kyle-

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02-03-2007, 06:58 AM
Posted By: <b>Dan Bretta</b><p>Well if Leon runs with the poll maybe the percentages of the proceeds can be divided up by the percentages in the poll? Just a thought. I think one large lot of Net54 goodies would do very well.

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02-03-2007, 07:42 AM
Posted By: <b>barrysloate</b><p>I would be willing to help put a charity auction together and even throw something in, but I suggest it be done on the board, similar to the way Michael sold his Drum back (perhaps with a few refinements). First, it is a board effort so this is a good venue. Second, printing costs can run quite high, and do we really want to print 1000+ catalogs when it's likely that many people check the board anyway? I think with a zero overhead we can donate the most possible money.<br /><br />But can we agree on which charity the money will go to?

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02-03-2007, 07:48 AM
Posted By: <b>Kyle</b><p>Hey Everyone,<br /><br />To clarify my idea, I was thinking that our "charity auction" would consist of ONE lot. All donations would be put into this massive lot and sold potentially through a generous auction house who was willing to sponsor it.<br /><br />I envisioned the listing take up one page of their catalog, with several pics, a list of all items include, information on the charity or charities being sponsored and a note saying where the collection came from.<br /><br />So ideally, the only work that'd need to be done is gather cards, forward cards to auction house (maybe even send them the scanned images) and let them do the rest.<br /><br />-Kyle-

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02-03-2007, 08:30 AM
Posted By: <b>Kyle</b><p>Hey Everyone,<br /><br />Quick note, Robert Edward Auctions has offered to donate the space in their catalog, run the one auction lot format as originally thought of and donate all funds plus the buyers premium to the selected charity. Logistics of which auction it could run in are to be determined, as it may be too late for their upcoming one. <br /><br />Thanks, Robert!<br /><br />-Kyle-

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02-03-2007, 08:36 AM
Posted By: <b>JimCrandell</b><p>Another classy act by a guy who seems to always do the right thing.<br /><br />I vote for using Rob.<br /><br />Jim

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02-03-2007, 08:41 AM
Posted By: <b>Kyle</b><p>Robert got back to me and said they could get it into their 2007 auction if we have the lot in their hands by 02/22/2007. Logistically, would those be willing to contribute send their donations to me, I would catalog and forward all to Robert, and he could<br /><br />Here's what I am thinking regarding sending in cards:<br /><br />1. Cards sent tracked or insured<br />2. I'd be great to have cards sent in cardsavers with a label on the back identifying what the card is (I still get confused)<br />3. Must be in my hands by 2/20, will forward via overnight mail to Robert on 2/21 for inclusion in their next auction. (I am out of town 2/16, returning 2/20)<br />4. I will catalog and write a sample description of the lot.<br /><br /><br /><br />I know 2 weeks is a tough turnaround, but if everyone thinks its possbile, lets go for it... and select a charity too.<br /><br />-Kyle-

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02-03-2007, 08:55 AM
Posted By: <b>peter ullman</b><p>i'll donate...as I've said...dependent on the charitable organization...and I'm partial to donating to a baseball/sports related cause.<br /><br />pete ullman

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02-03-2007, 09:48 AM
Posted By: <b>Tom Hines</b><p>I think Dave asked earlier and I did not see any guidance other than the original post but what is the card value minimum / maximum? Personally I have a couple of cards thet I would not mind donating that would be in the $50 - $100 range but do not want to upset the apple cart here. Also I think a compilation of charities might be the best route as a consensus here on one or two will not likely happen.<br /><br />Tom

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02-03-2007, 09:51 AM
Posted By: <b>Kyle</b><p>I was thinking $10-$15, but if someone had something $50+, sure!<br /><br />As for the charity, we'll never come to an agreement but will figure something out.<br /><br />-Kyle-

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02-03-2007, 12:22 PM
Posted By: <b>Kyle</b><p>Does anything think its feasible to get a solid 75-100 items in two weeks for the auction, or is it something that should be put off to ensure we have that may items?<br /><br />I really only want to try to make this work if others are convinced it can work.<br /><br />Thanks to all those who are supporting it thus far!<br />-Kyle-<br /><br />

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02-03-2007, 12:29 PM
Posted By: <b>Tom Hines</b><p>I am willing to support. The 2 week thing will cause a bit of a crunch but is dooable. Do you have a contingency plan if we don't make the 22 Feb deadline? <br /><br />Tom

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02-03-2007, 12:42 PM
Posted By: <b>barrysloate</b><p>75-100 items sounds like a lot in a short period of time, but if you look at it another way, each person only has to make the effort to send one item. That shouldn't be too difficult. Would it save time to send them directly to Rob?

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02-03-2007, 01:05 PM
Posted By: <b>Jay</b><p>Barry--I don't think it would be fair to Rob, after his generous offer, to make him aggregate the material. The original idea proposed to have Kyle do it sounds better. I would like to suggest that we donate the proceeds to the Muscular Dystrophy Association. Either that,or perhaps Leon could make the next poll which charity we should donate to. That would probably save needless arguements.

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02-03-2007, 01:28 PM
Posted By: <b>leon</b><p>I will donate a card and do a new poll if that's what ya'll want....Lets see where this goes in the next day or so....I am open and neutral...

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02-03-2007, 01:37 PM
Posted By: <b>Dan Bretta</b><p>So far the ideas for a charity are:<br /><br />Baseball Assistance Team<br />Injured Veterans of the War in Iraq<br />MDA<br />AIDS<br />Cancer research<br /><br />Any others that need to be added to the list?

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02-03-2007, 01:45 PM
Posted By: <b>barrysloate</b><p>Jay- I agree it would be much less work for Rob if one person sent a single package. But we are working with a deadline, and it would mean each item would need to be shipped twice, cutting down on valuable time. As far as the charity, there are a hundred good ones, so how do we decide?

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02-03-2007, 03:15 PM
Posted By: <b>Kyle</b><p>I really don't mind receiving everything, and Ted Golden also offered to receive and assist with this. If someone else wants to receive and catalog, thats fine with me too. I just want to see this go through!<br /><br />I'd prefer to have one person manage the receiveables and deliver everything to Robert in one nice box with the digital catalog files, some scans if possible to save REA some time, and some paragraphs on the auction.<br /><br />I think the two week window is tight, but even first class mail only takes 3-5 days (most of the time). If the deadline to send to me was 2/15/2007, I should have everything in hand by 02/21 and can overnight to Robert then.<br /><br />I like the poll idea for the charity, but I would sure be disappointed if the concept of the auction was lost if some were upset with the "winner". We're trying to do something nice, have postive thread on the board and eventually, upon the auction's close, be able reflect on the success.<br /><br />-Kyle-<br /><br /><br /><br />

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02-03-2007, 03:20 PM
Posted By: <b>barrysloate</b><p>Kyle- Rob Lifson has some favorite charities, among them those that are for the ethical treatment of animals. Perhaps Rob should pick a charity since he offered to do this.<br /><br />Also, why not post your address, so people can start sending things to you.

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02-03-2007, 03:22 PM
Posted By: <b>peter chao</b><p>Dan, Guys,<br /><br />BAT, do they also contribute funds to help elderly Negro League players. If so, maybe we can earmark the funds to go directly to them...<img src="/images/happy.gif" height=14 width=14><br /><br />Peter

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02-03-2007, 03:24 PM
Posted By: <b>Kyle</b><p>Good idea, but will the board be okay with it?<br /><br />Also, Ted Golden offered to help with tax documention for those who would like to retain a receipt for their 2007 taxes.<br /><br />So with that said, I hope this covers all the bases:<br /><br />1. Send in card legibilly specifying with what it is, year, player, etc.<br />2. Declared value (write NONE if you don't want a tax doc back)<br />3. Typed up address for tax document if desired<br /><br /><br />Think of anything else, let me know.<br /><br />(address removed, please see later posts)<br /><br /><br />It'd also be great to know who to expect a package from. So an email to kylebicking@yahoo.com will help. I don't want to be accused of stealing any of your donations.<br /><br />Thanks guys,<br />Kyle<br /><br /><br />

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02-03-2007, 04:44 PM
Posted By: <b>Kyle</b><p>I was thinking that the auction should have a minimum of 50 items in it. In the event I don't receive a total of 50 or more, we'll regroup and figure out an alternative. Also, in the event that we have to regroup, I will return cards to those who request them.<br /><br />Lastly, no limit on what you donate... the more the merrier!<br /><br />Thanks!<br />-Kyle-

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02-03-2007, 06:32 PM
Posted By: <b>Dylan</b><p>If people dont want to donate to a charity where money would be applied overseas (feeding the hungry) that fine. But i think more support could be generated for a charity that potentially saves lives over making retired baseball players lives more comfortable. There are charities that help people receive urgent medical care in our own country. Or one of the many charities that contibutes to disease research . The money stays in America and can have a lot of potential to do good.

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02-03-2007, 08:44 PM
Posted By: <b>JimCrandell</b><p>Barry,<br /><br />I will only agree to an animal charity if Leon promises not to tell us again how he sleeps with his dog.<br /><br />Actually if proceeds are going to a number of charities I propose Operation Rescue.

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02-03-2007, 08:47 PM
Posted By: <b>Dave</b><p>The money could also go to help Leon's dog..assuming it doesn't like sleeping with Leon..

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02-03-2007, 08:57 PM
Posted By: <b>Kyle</b><p>Are there people on here who will not participate if they don't like the charity? Would someone not go with the idea if I chose the charity being a feed the hunger or medicine for kids charity? No charity is a bad charity and I would be shocked if the turnout was less because people who rather see charity ABC receive the relatively small amount that charity XYZ. I would like to see a charity that can have an immediate effect on the money get it, such as a feed the hungry. If the money could feel 200-500 people, wouldn't that be awesome! <br /><br />I'd really like to get an understanding of who on the board wants to even do this. I haven't received any emails thus far, so we're sitting at zero, though 5-10 have responded saying yes.<br /><br />Have a great weekend,<br />Kyle<br />

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02-03-2007, 09:27 PM
Posted By: <b>peter ullman</b><p>i'll be sending you a card...OR TWO.<br /><br />pete ullman

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02-03-2007, 09:37 PM
Posted By: <b>Dan Bretta</b><p>I'm sure Jim is just trolling again, but count me out if any of the money goes to Operation Rescue.

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02-04-2007, 04:26 AM
Posted By: <b>barrysloate</b><p>So am I to assume that the money will be donated to Leon's dog? <img src="/images/happy.gif" height=14 width=14><br /><br />I hope this doesn't turn into an argument over what charity is most deserving. I plan to send something to Kyle, but maybe we should establish where the money is going first.

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02-04-2007, 04:43 AM
Posted By: <b>JimCrandell</b><p>Dan,<br /><br />I don't troll and I don't post garbage posts.<br /><br />If you can propose charities that mean something to you, I can do the same.

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02-04-2007, 05:21 AM
Posted By: <b>David Vargha</b><p><font color=blue>Why would someone get on Jim just because he places a higher value on the life of unborn humans than he does on groups that want more "humane" living conditions for chickens and cows? It seems like he has his priorities straight on this one.</font><br><br>DavidVargha@hotmail.com

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02-04-2007, 05:44 AM
Posted By: <b>Kyle</b><p>Would you all participate if I chose the charity the day I send the package to REA? Again, any charity is a good charity, and knowing you've done something nice should make it worth while.<br /><br />Also, I plan on posting the list of all donations, so everyone can see how great we did and how generous people were. Though if it is determined that it could create more controversy, I won't do it.<br /><br />-Kyle-

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02-04-2007, 05:55 AM
Posted By: <b>JimCrandell</b><p>Thanks David--well said.

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02-04-2007, 06:55 AM
Posted By: <b>leon</b><p>Lets please don't turn this nice deed everyone wants to do into an argument. I think Operation Rescue is a great cause and so are all of the others. I can't tell you how many times I have had tears in my eyes over seeing mistreated animals. I also get tears in my eyes over seeing hungy and impoverished children (I really have a soft heart behind my dictator front)...and I am sure making old timer baseball players lives better would be a good cause too. I am not saying to split the bit of money we collect a million ways but maybe we could pick 2 things to donate to.....We really have to get something done soon if we want to take Rob up on his offer...best regards (and leave Trixie out of it....she sleeps with me every night and we are quite happy <img src="/images/happy.gif" height=14 width=14> )... Unconditional love....

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02-04-2007, 07:04 AM
Posted By: <b>JimCrandell</b><p>Thank you Leon for endorsing Operation Rescue as a "great cause"--I think that should be one of the two or three we choose.

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02-04-2007, 07:27 AM
Posted By: <b>Dan Bretta</b><p>This will be my last word in this thread - I WILL NOT GIVE ANYTHING IF EVEN A PENNY GOES TO OPERATION RESCUE. Anyone who wants to read about who the people are behind Operation Rescue can read this link.<br /><br /><a href="http://mediamatters.org/items/200503220001" target="_new" rel="nofollow">http://mediamatters.org/items/200503220001</a><br /><br />Sorry Leon, I am not trying to be divisive, but I think people should know how this "Charity" works before they decide if they want to give money to them.<br /><br />And I will not respond to any more of Crandell's bait. There are plenty of neutral charities to give this money to. And for the record I will not give a penny if any of the money goes to PETA either as that is another group that operates outside of the law.

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02-04-2007, 07:28 AM
Posted By: <b>MVSNYC</b><p>this is the first i have seen this post...<br /><br />I AM IN!!!<br /><br />i will donate a mid-grade PSA T206 card. (i think it is awesome that REA is willing to do this, he is a class act)...<br /><br />being a pet owner, my vote leans towards an agreed upon charity which helps animals...(sounds like Rob's choice too).<br /><br />i also think we should have Leon do a quick poll, and everyone can vote for charity of choice...that is the ONLY fair way to do it.<br /><br />come on guys, 2 weeks is a long time, i just read this thread in 5 minutes and already pulled aside the card...<br /><br /><br /><br />great idea Kyle!

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02-04-2007, 07:38 AM
Posted By: <b>JimCrandell</b><p>BRETTA,<br /><br />It is not bait. David Vargha put it most eloquently and said if you want do send your money for those who want more human conditions for chickens and cows rather than the lives of unborn humans it is a sad commentary indeed.<br /><br />Count me out if we are supporting chickens and cows over unborn babies.

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02-04-2007, 07:43 AM
Posted By: <b>barrysloate</b><p>Are we donating money to charity or resurrecting the abortion debate?<br /><br /> I plan to send a card or two to Lyle when I have a little better sense that we as a group agree on something and know what we are doing. Thank you.

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02-04-2007, 07:45 AM
Posted By: <b>MVSNYC</b><p>as i stated above, Leon should do a quick poll, and everyone can vote for charity of choice...that is the ONLY fair way to do it.<br /><br />

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02-04-2007, 07:51 AM
Posted By: <b>Jay</b><p>There are many charities that we can all agree are worthy without considering some that are controversial in nature. I think Operation Rescue is one that fits in the latter category and I would suggest that we eliminate it from our list of possibilities. This is not a pro or anti abortion statement, just a statement that we should choose a charity that EVERYONE feels good about.

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02-04-2007, 07:58 AM
Posted By: <b>barrysloate</b><p>Absolutely. There are so many worthy charities, and we should be able to pick one. I think we should have it decided by tomorrow so that we can start sending our cards in beginning Monday.

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02-04-2007, 08:01 AM
Posted By: <b>leon</b><p>my mistake....I just googled and found out Operation Rescue is not the same local "operation rescue" I was thinking of. The local one, I think, has to do with animals and not humans. Operation Rescue might be a great cause but I am not going there...It was my mistake on that...sorry for the blooper....I think I might do a quick poll in a thread to ask everyone's favorite 2 charities.....???

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02-04-2007, 08:04 AM
Posted By: <b>MVSNYC</b><p>i agree with Jay, lets not pick a controversial charity, please...<br /><br />my girflfriend just woke up and suggested 2 non-controversial animal charities: humane society or aspca...<br /><br /><br />p.s. i am not trying to "push" the whole animal thing here, it just seems like we have many "pet people" on Net 54... <br /><br /><br />just food for thought, but if Leon doesn't mind, we should do a new poll...

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02-04-2007, 08:08 AM
Posted By: <b>Kyle</b><p>I have nothing against charities for animals, its really sad the conditions some of them live in. BUT when I had this idea originally, I was thinking that somehow the auction would benefit people and in a more immediate fashion - hence why I am really in support of the money going to a feed the hunger charities or medicine for children charity.<br /><br />Guys, we may get $2000 out of this, we may get less... hopefully more. Its not worth bickering over the charity. <br /><br />Support the idea, support the generous, giving members of this forum and just make this happen. Please.<br /><br />From here on out, all my responses in the thread will contain the procedure information to be involved.<br /><br /><br />To join the Net54 Charity Auction sponsored by Robert Edward Auctions:<br />1. Send in any card(s) legibilly specifying with what it is, year, player, variation, etc.<br />2. Declared value(s) (write NONE if you don't want a tax document returned to you)<br />3. Please print your address for a tax document if desired<br />4. Cards MUST be postmarked by 02/14/2007.<br />5. Send email confirmation of your intention to participate and what you're sending to: kylebicking@yahoo.com<br /><br />(address removed, please see later posts)<br /><br /><br />On 02/21/2007, I will reply to the thread with a list of the donations and donators to thank all of those who supported the idea. I've had several emails already, thank you!

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02-04-2007, 08:27 AM
Posted By: <b>JimCrandell</b><p>I agree--the animal ones are too controvertial.Lets not include those.

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02-04-2007, 08:30 AM
Posted By: <b>barrysloate</b><p>Leon- asking everyone to name their two favorite charities is akin to asking New Yorkers to name their two favorite steakhouses, and you know where that gets you.<br /><br />Perhaps there is an easier way to do this. I endorse charities like the Humane Society, but if that doesn't work let's just move on.

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02-04-2007, 08:33 AM
Posted By: <b>barrysloate</b><p>Lyle- Are we limiting this to cards, or are other forms of baseball memorabilia acceptable?

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02-04-2007, 08:36 AM
Posted By: <b>JimCrandell</b><p>If saving human lives is too controvertial, how about something to help our war veterans--or is helping our soldiers too controvertial sas well.

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02-04-2007, 08:39 AM
Posted By: <b>MVSNYC</b><p>jim- are you kidding me? i am talking about a charity that takes animals in need off the streets, caring for them, feeding them, giving them medical care, etc...<br /><br />you want to talk controversial? the catch phrase of your "operation rescue" website is: "Dedicated to ending abortion in America"...if that isn't controversial, then i don't know what is...<br /><br />let's not get into this...kyle had a great idea, let's stay focused here.

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02-04-2007, 08:47 AM
Posted By: <b>Kyle</b><p>How about let me make the decision and trust my judgment that the donation will go to a could cause, and lets get some envelopes in the mail. If waiting until 2/21 to announce the charity pervents some people from donating, well then that's their problem.<br /><br />-Kyle-<br /><br /><br /><br />------<br />To join the Net54 Charity Auction sponsored by Robert Edward Auctions:<br />1. Send in any card(s) legibilly specifying with what it is, year, player, variation, etc.<br />2. Declared value(s) (write NONE if you don't want a tax document returned to you)<br />3. Please print your address for a tax document if desired<br />4. Cards MUST be postmarked by 02/14/2007.<br />5. Send email confirmation of your intention to participate and what you're sending to: kylebicking@yahoo.com<br /><br />(address removed, please see later posts)<br /><br /><br />On 02/21/2007, I will reply to the thread with a list of the donations and donators to thank all of those who supported the idea. I've had several emails already, thank you!

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02-04-2007, 08:47 AM
Posted By: <b>JimCrandell</b><p>Mike,<br /><br />You don't think ending abortion in America is a nobler cause than taking animals off the street?<br /><br />

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02-04-2007, 08:54 AM
Posted By: <b>MVSNYC</b><p>jim-this conversation isn't for this board...<br /><br />let's agree to disagree.<br /><br />and please do not email me with this discussion.<br />

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02-04-2007, 08:59 AM
Posted By: <b>barrysloate</b><p>Jim- you are taking as controversial an issue as possible and we will never get agreement on it.<br /><br />I don't know Lyle, but for the sake of getting this done I would let him pick the charity, and will get something in the mail on Monday.<br /><br />To repeat my question, are we limited to only cards or other forms of memorabilia as well?

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02-04-2007, 09:00 AM
Posted By: <b>JimCrandell</b><p>Mike,<br /><br />I agree--no looking for a debate--just surprised over what you said.<br /><br />Kyle--I will send card(s) but I would need to know where money going first.<br /><br />Jim

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02-04-2007, 09:01 AM
Posted By: <b>Mike Ellis</b><p>Kyle, Great idea. I will donate a card worth at least $100. All I ask is that it be a legitimate charity that truly helps humans or animals (no political - left or right causes). You can pick it as far as I am concerned. Thanks to REA as well. Mike

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02-04-2007, 09:07 AM
Posted By: <b>Kyle</b><p>Hi Barry, sorry I didn't see your question before. Anything is fair game to me: cards, memorabilia, etc.<br /><br />The cause I choose will be one that will impact animals or humans in as urgently as possible. If this doesn't work for you, I'm sorry, I really wish we could please everyone on here... but just know that in a few months some charity will be getting a check from Net54 Vintage Forum and REA, and you'll have missed out on it. If you choose this route, please refrain from posting on this thread.<br /><br />Thanks,<br />Kyle<br /><br /><br />-------------------------<br />To join the Net54 Charity Auction sponsored by Robert Edward Auctions:<br />1. Send in any card(s) legibilly specifying with what it is, year, player, variation, etc.<br />2. Declared value(s) (write NONE if you don't want a tax document returned to you)<br />3. Please print your address for a tax document if desired<br />4. Cards MUST be postmarked by 02/14/2007.<br />5. Send email confirmation of your intention to participate and what you're sending to: kylebicking@yahoo.com<br /><br />(address removed, please see later posts)<br /><br /><br />On 02/21/2007, I will reply to the thread with a list of the donations and donators to thank all of those who supported the idea.

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02-04-2007, 09:15 AM
Posted By: <b>JimCrandell</b><p>Sorry Kyle--not up for contributing to animals--let me know if you change your mind.

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02-04-2007, 09:16 AM
Posted By: <b>barrysloate</b><p>Kyle- please pick the charity and I will get a box of odds and ends out to you on Monday (no junk!) Barry Sloate

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02-04-2007, 09:24 AM
Posted By: <b>leon</b><p>I will put a card in the mail Monday....you pick the cause....I am sure it will be a good one...

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02-04-2007, 09:26 AM
Posted By: <b>Kyle</b><p>I leaning away from an animal cause, sorry to those who really were pushing for it. I'll have no problem doing another one of these for that cause in the future.<br /><br />I am leaning towards either of these charities:<br />-<a href="http://sickkidsfoundation.com/" target="_new" rel="nofollow"><a href="http://sickkidsfoundation.com/</a" target="_new" rel="nofollow">http://sickkidsfoundation.com/</a</a>><br />-<a href="http://www.childhaven.org/new/" target="_new" rel="nofollow"><a href="http://www.childhaven.org/new/</a" target="_new" rel="nofollow">http://www.childhaven.org/new/</a</a>><br /><br />Thanks,<br />Kyle<br /><br /><br />Thanks Leon, Barry... much appreciated.

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02-04-2007, 11:19 AM
Posted By: <b>Joann</b><p>1. Kyle - great idea. Not only helping a cause, but it will be neat (as you said to begin with) to see what the melting pot of N54 donations turns out to be. I'm in.<br /><br />2. I suggest a 24 or 36 hour thread to vote for the charity, from 4 or 5 nominees that Leon and/or Kyle can pick from this thread. One person, one vote, any vote for a cause other than one of the nominees is cancelled, and NO using the thread to lobby or otherwise discuss the charities nominated. The poll is too easy to manipulate - remember how 60% of us or something were PSA 8 collectors? There have been several charities suggested that I think everyone could support, but each of us has our favorites within that handful. Even if we have just a short and limited vote, people will get a chance to try for their favorite but still likely support whichever cause ends up getting the most votes. <br /><br />3. It's probably good that there is so little time - it will spur action. Having too much time might end up with people forgetting or loss of sense of urgency.<br /><br />4. REA - wow. Good for them. <br /><br />5. Funny - everyone suggested fairly neutral causes either by name or by generic descriptions of activity. Only one person started down the path of "neutral or slightly my way". How ego-centric. Wow. Whatever Trevor.<br /><br />I'll send a card regardless - I'll support whatever charity is selected b/c I'm sure it will be good. A chance to vote would be nice too, but not really a show stopper for me.<br /><br />Joann

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02-04-2007, 12:56 PM
Posted By: <b>Kyle</b><p>Thanks, Joann. I look forward to receive your item. From those who have mentioned they will contribute, we've got a few nice items on the way. Still, we'll need more people to participate, so if you've got stronger relationships with anyone on the boards, please encourage their participation.<br /><br />-Kyle-<br /><br />

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02-04-2007, 01:56 PM
Posted By: <b>martin dalziel</b><p><br />Without trying to fan the flames any more, I too have a couple of suggestions.<br /><br />* Don't designate a charity. Let the high bidder in the auction designate the charity of their own chosing. This would likely result in higher bids.<br /><br />* If this is not to your liking, then as Joann suggests, have a poll. But, the only people who should participate in the poll are those that are donating something.

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02-04-2007, 02:14 PM
Posted By: <b>JimCrandell</b><p>Outstanding idea Martin--let the winning bidder designate

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02-04-2007, 03:02 PM
Posted By: <b>Cat</b><p>Letting the winner bidder decide who gets the funds defeats the purpase of accumulating cards for charity. I BELIEVE the purpose is to do something good, but if the winning bidder wants to donate to "HILARY CLINTON FOR PRESIDENT" I'm going to be pissed.<br /><br />By the way, I do have a card wrapped up and ready to go - in the $100 range - but this is a new twist.

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02-04-2007, 03:08 PM
Posted By: <b>Tom Hines</b><p>I think you can have the best of both worlds. Just assemble a list of "approved" charities (compiled form the numerous charities listed here in this thread and commonly agreed apon) and then allow the buyer to choose any combination of those charities listed as the benifactors. I have seen this done in several organizations in the past.<br />Just my 2 1/2 cents worth.<br /><br />Tom

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02-04-2007, 03:20 PM
Posted By: <b>martin dalziel</b><p><br />Cat,<br />You're right of course and I agree that i'd be pissed too if it were not going to something to help others. I was trying to find a way to brake away from the 'choose my cause' deadlock that this has turned in to.<br /><br />How about the Red Cross - its even got a tie in to vintage cards, given that its a rare back <img src="/images/happy.gif" height=14 width=14><br /><br />Given all the devistation in Florida yesterday, and in California due to the fires few weeks back, I'd like to see the monies go somewhere where it can help the everyday folks who need immediate assistance. I'm biased of course, having suffered through a tornado years ago, but know that agencies like the Red Cross and Salvation Army help everyone.

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02-04-2007, 03:27 PM
Posted By: <b>barrysloate</b><p>Cat- Hilary Clinton is a multi-millionaire. That's not a charity!<br /><br />The money should be donated to any reasonable charity that helps the needy or underprivileged, or the very ill. That's the kind of charity we are looking for.

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02-04-2007, 03:28 PM
Posted By: <b>Cat</b><p>Just curious and I am not trying to overcomplicate things...but, if I won it would people be upset if I donated the funds to my son's High School Baseball team? I'm just trying to get a feel for what folk's expectations are.

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02-04-2007, 03:34 PM
Posted By: <b>JimB</b><p>I knew when this nobel idea first went out there that it would lead to disagreements.<br /><br />I would not want to donate to some undisclosed charity of another person's choosing. What if the winner would choose a charity with which I have fundamental disagreements and would not want to support. Can't we agree on something neutral like feeding the poor in this country. <br /><br />Let's be serious and stay away from contentious issues like choice or no choice on abortion.<br />JimB

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02-04-2007, 03:36 PM
Posted By: <b>Cat</b><p>Barry:<br /><br />Maybe there is an accountant that can help, but I think what people are suggesting is limiting the decision to 501(c)3 organizations. This counts out my son's baseball team and probably some other deserving organizations. It does include most churches.<br /><br />In the end, we better pick the charity

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02-04-2007, 03:38 PM
Posted By: <b>JimB</b><p>How about the ACLU? WHo here does not love our constitution? <img src="/images/happy.gif" height=14 width=14><br />JimB

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02-04-2007, 03:39 PM
Posted By: <b>barrysloate</b><p>Is your son's baseball team comprised of kids who could not afford to play baseball and would be forced to disband the team without some help?<br /><br />Or are these well to do kids from the suburbs?<br /><br />A little common sense would tell you whether or not it is appropriate. We could give the money to an investment banker so he could replace his worn out patio furniture, but that's not in the spirit of what the charity should be about.

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02-04-2007, 03:47 PM
Posted By: <b>JimCrandell</b><p>The ACLU is the enemy--one of the biggest things that is wrong with the country.

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02-04-2007, 03:48 PM
Posted By: <b>Cat</b><p>Barry:<br /><br />Then you really don't want the winner to choose. Sure, we are each individually putting some cards in but one guy is cutting a seemingly large check. So I guess you vote to make the decision for him/her. I'm OK with that, but I will guarantee you, if you leave it up to me and I win..it's going to my son's baseball team.

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02-04-2007, 03:57 PM
Posted By: <b>Jay</b><p>Cat--I disagree. I think the board should decide. I too hate the ACLU but I will go with whatever the Board decides.<br />I would like to make another suggestion--The Painted Turtle. It is a camp in California for children with serious illnesses. I believe it is associated with Paul Newman's Hole in the Wall Gang. Also, Richard Masson's wife is on the board of this worthy charity so there is a direct tie to the Board.

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02-04-2007, 03:59 PM
Posted By: <b>Dave Hornish</b><p>I must admit I am mystified how an organization that upholds the Constitution of the United States can be the "enemy" while a terrorist organization such as Operation Rescue is considered a "great cause." ACLU by the way, represents on Constitutional issues both left and right of center.

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02-04-2007, 04:05 PM
Posted By: <b>leon</b><p>So we know there is a level head deciding on the charitly I vote to go back to the originator of the idea. Who better than a level headed board member, that came up with the warm hearted idea, to pick? I would strongly encourage everyone to think about the heart that thought this up and let that person make the decision....I think Kyle has some good ideas.....that's my 1/2 cent......best regards<br /><br />edited to say that I would be very comfortable with Jay M's suggestion also...it's hard to imagine a more worthy cause...

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02-04-2007, 04:06 PM
Posted By: <b>JimCrandell</b><p>Yeah right--the ACLU is a secular left-wing organization. If you believe the ACLU is in the middlethen you believe that Dennis the Menace Kucinich is in the middle.

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02-04-2007, 04:10 PM
Posted By: <b>Kyle</b><p>The charity will be either of two kids ones I previously posted, or something involving feeding the hungry, or the Painted Turtle one. If you don't approve, oh well, I guess I can't please everyone... but I know some kids will be pretty happy in the end.<br /><br />Let's talk more about what you're donating or that you're even donating, okay? I just received an email from an incredibly generous board member who is sending me over approximately $800 worth of cards for the auction, and its only 7 items. Awesome, just awesome.<br /><br />Thanks everyone.<br /><br />-Kyle-<br /><br /><br />------<br />To join the Net54 Charity Auction sponsored by Robert Edward Auctions:<br />1. Send in any card(s) legibilly specifying with what it is, year, player, variation, etc.<br />2. Declared value(s) (write NONE if you don't want a tax document returned to you)<br />3. Please print your address for a tax document if desired<br />4. Cards MUST be postmarked by 02/14/2007.<br />5. Send email confirmation of your intention to participate and what you're sending to: kylebicking@yahoo.com<br /><br />(address removed, please see later posts)<br /><br />

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02-04-2007, 04:10 PM
Posted By: <b>JimCrandell</b><p>Jay,<br /><br />We agree on the ACLU but proceeds from Paul Newman's salad dressing all go to left-wing causes--you should see the list. Anything associated with Newman or Jane Fonda I would be strongly against.

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02-04-2007, 04:12 PM
Posted By: <b>barrysloate</b><p>Let's all be nice and leave politics out of this.<br /><br />I like Jay's idea a lot, and think that Kyle will also pick a good cause. I say let's go with one of those two choices to keep things simple, or we will be here all night.

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02-04-2007, 04:23 PM
Posted By: <b>Kyle</b><p>Here's a sample of what's being sent to me already:<br /><br />1921 Exhibit, 1933 Goudey, 1915 Cracker Jack, N172 Old Judge, T206 and many more. Over $1000 in declared value so far. Pretty awesome.<br /><br />This is going to be a great lot to purchase.<br /><br />-Kyle-<br /><br />

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02-04-2007, 04:42 PM
Posted By: <b>Dan Bretta</b><p>Kyle, I found a few more items to throw in the pot today that I will be adding when I get it sent out to you. <br /><br />I like the Painted Turtle idea also....having Richard Masson's wife on the board will assure us that the money goes straight to the children.

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02-04-2007, 04:46 PM
Posted By: <b>Kyle</b><p>Thanks, Dan. May I ask who Richard is? Is he a board member?

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02-04-2007, 04:49 PM
Posted By: <b>Dan Bretta</b><p>Yes he is a board member who has an unbelievable collection. Not sure if I've seen him post lately.

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02-04-2007, 04:59 PM
Posted By: <b>Kyle</b><p>If anyone has any objections to Painted Turtle, please let me know. This is exactly where I'd like to see the money go.<br /><br />Thanks again for the recommendation.<br />-Kyle-<br /><br />

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02-04-2007, 05:05 PM
Posted By: <b>Anonymous</b><p>Great choice. I look forward to bidding on the lot. Clearly, any organization that supports children that were not aborted should please the "right" people.

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02-04-2007, 05:05 PM
Posted By: <b>Dan Bretta</b><p>I found the URL for the Painted Turtle's website.<br /><br /><a href="http://www.thepaintedturtle.org/turtle/" target="_new" rel="nofollow">http://www.thepaintedturtle.org/turtle/</a><br /><br />Definitely where I'd like to see the money go.

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02-04-2007, 05:10 PM
Posted By: <b>Dave</b><p>Count me in as well Kyle. I'll go through what I have tomorrow and find something to mail out, will email you tomorrow night or so with the details of what it will be. <br /><br />Thanks,<br />Dave

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02-04-2007, 05:33 PM
Posted By: <b>barrysloate</b><p>I will put a package together tomorrow too, and I think the painted turtle is great. Richard has a strong relationship with Rob Lifson so they should work together fine.

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02-04-2007, 05:36 PM
Posted By: <b>Dave Hornish</b><p>Painted Turtle looks like a fabulous choice.

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02-04-2007, 05:54 PM
Posted By: <b>Kyle</b><p>Painted Turtle it is. I will let REA know.<br /><br />Thanks!<br /><br />------<br />To join the Net54 Charity Auction sponsored by Robert Edward Auctions:<br />1. Send in any card(s) or other memorabilia legibilly specifying with what it is, year, player, variation, etc. to the address below<br />2. Please declare value(s) of your items if you'd like a tax document. Please also provide your return address (write NONE if you don't want a tax document returned to you)<br />3. Cards MUST be postmarked by 02/14/2007.<br />4. Send email confirmation of your intention to participate and what you're sending to: kylebicking@yahoo.com<br /><br />Please send to:<br />(see address below near end of thread)<br />

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02-04-2007, 06:49 PM
Posted By: <b>Trae R.</b><p>I am SO in. Thanks Kyle!

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02-04-2007, 06:56 PM
Posted By: <b>Kyle</b><p>Rob let me know that he plans on acknowledging all those who donate in the auction. Not sure if its in the item's listing or somewhere else in the catalog, but he said it'll be there.<br /><br />Thanks!<br />-Kyle

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02-04-2007, 06:59 PM
Posted By: <b>Bruce MacPherson</b><p>Count me in too. I was waiting for a suitable charity to be decided on and the Painted Turtle works for me.

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02-04-2007, 08:05 PM
Posted By: <b>peter chao</b><p>Guys,<br /><br />Count me in also. Painted Turtle is a worthy cause.<br /><br />Peter

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02-04-2007, 08:58 PM
Posted By: <b>Kyle</b><p>Hopefully this is okay with Leon, but for the next week or so, in order to keep this thread near the top, I'll frequently add a semi update of what's being donated. The detailed list will come out once I send the monsterous package to REA.<br /><br />So far we've got cards from:<br />Exhibit, Goudey, N172 Old Judge, E91 Am. Caramel, E145 Cracker Jack, E93 Standard Caramel, T206, T210 Series 7 and 8, E96, E90, T212 and 1951 Bowman.<br /><br />Estimated declared value for the 15 "items" from the five amazing board members who have emailed their specific contributions is nearing the $2000.00 mark.<br /><br />Pretty amazing folks.<br />-Kyle-

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02-05-2007, 08:07 AM
Posted By: <b>Kyle</b><p>Bumpin' it near the top. Please email me if you're participating and what you're sending in. We've got some awesome items in this lot already!<br /><br />-Kyle-<br /><br />

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02-06-2007, 05:51 AM
Posted By: <b>Kyle</b><p>Bump to the top.

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02-06-2007, 06:13 AM
Posted By: <b>Dave</b><p>Kyle,<br />It may also be a good idea to every now and then update and list what you have coming to everyone. I for one may still have another thing or two I'll end up sending in the next couple days. <br /><br />Dave

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02-06-2007, 06:17 AM
Posted By: <b>Kyle</b><p>I am hesitant to list all the items because I don't want people to feel like they do have to contribute more. If those who have already contributed are okay with it, then I will post a list every morning or so.<br /><br />Thanks,<br />Kyle<br /><br />

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02-06-2007, 06:31 AM
Posted By: <b>Dave</b><p>Thats fine..whatever everyone is comfortable with. And I'm not saying list the donations and who donated what right now. Just if everyone is comfortable a list of what has been donated. <br /><br />Thanks<br /><br />Dave

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02-06-2007, 06:53 AM
Posted By: <b>Kyle</b><p>Oh no way I'd list who gave what... just the items if anything. I was planning on doing it in a few weeks once the deadline passes, but can do it sooner too.<br /><br />I'll wait to see what people say today and then if I am going to list the items, will do so tomorrow morning.<br /><br />Thanks,<br />Kyle<br />

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02-06-2007, 07:00 AM
Posted By: <b>peter ullman</b><p>i think listing who gave what is a bad idea. Initially the discussion involved donating Approx $15-20 cards...and this is what I sent. Then all of a sudden people start donating $100 cards. Based on certain board members propensity towards class segregation...I think listing who gave what cards will only cause more problems and in-fighting. <br /><br />pete ullman in mn

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02-06-2007, 07:04 AM
Posted By: <b>Dave</b><p>Peter...no I wasn't wanting any list of what certain people donated either. I also jsut sent a $20 item....my thoughts were more based on sending something else (small). Most of what I have are common type cards..T206's. I just didn't see a need in duplicating anything already donated.

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02-06-2007, 07:10 AM
Posted By: <b>Kyle</b><p>List would look like this:<br /><br />Card ABC<br />Card XYZ<br />Card ABC<br />Card XYZ<br /><br /><br />No names listed....<br />-Kyle

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02-06-2007, 07:27 AM
Posted By: <b>Tom Hines</b><p> I see nothing wrong with a list of the items only. I agree with Dave about the duplication of items. <br /> I would truely hope that "class segregation" would be left at home on this occassion. This is a charitable event, not a popularity contest. My hat is off to everyone that donates regardless of dollar value! <br /><br />Tom

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02-06-2007, 07:35 AM
Posted By: <b>barrysloate</b><p>Some donors prefer to remain anonymous anyway.

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02-06-2007, 12:57 PM
Posted By: <b>MVSNYC</b><p>Kyle-<br /><br />i am fed-exing to you today, a common PSA 4 T206 card.<br /><br />best of luck.<br /><br />Michael Sarno

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02-06-2007, 01:48 PM
Posted By: <b>JimB</b><p>Kyle,<br />T206 sent today.<br />JimB

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02-06-2007, 03:30 PM
Posted By: <b>Kyle</b><p>Thanks to those sending items out today.<br /><br />Unless I receive an email from atleast one donor who would prefer no list of CARDS only be posted, then tomorrow I will provide a list of donations that I have been emailed about. Again, no names will be posted of any of the donorations corresponding to their donations.<br /><br />Thanks again everyone!<br />-Kyle-<br /><br />

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02-06-2007, 08:23 PM
Posted By: <b>Kyle</b><p>new list below

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02-08-2007, 06:13 AM
Posted By: <b>Kyle</b><p>Only bump of the day... looking forward to receiving items in the next few days. If you are participating and have not emailed me, please do so.<br /><br />Regards,<br />Kyle Bicking<br /><br />

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02-09-2007, 07:17 AM
Posted By: <b>Kyle</b><p>Keeping the thread on the front page atleast for this week. Received four packages yesterday, and know more are on the way. Please send your items in soon. Once my emailed list is full, I will debate sending the package to REA early. SO if you haven't emailed me with what you're sending, please do so... otherwise your item(s) may be returned to you if I am unable to forward to REA.<br /><br />Thanks,<br />Kyle<br /><br />

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02-09-2007, 07:21 AM
Posted By: <b>Jeff Lichtman</b><p>Charity idea: James C. Koop Defense Fund

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02-09-2007, 08:19 AM
Posted By: <b>barrysloate</b><p>Jeff- it's actually James Kopp, but I agree it's a worthy cause because there was a man who knew the truth and put it into action!

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02-09-2007, 08:26 AM
Posted By: <b>ockday</b><p>Thanks Kyle for getting this together..it's a great idea and I hope it does really well.<br />I am sending my contribution today via FedEx.<br />Alan

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02-09-2007, 08:37 AM
Posted By: <b>Jeff Lichtman</b><p>Agreed, Barry. Instead of just blathering on about the Right Way, Kopp took matters into his own hand -- and saved countless millions!<br /><br />Runner-up charity organization: Ted Haggard Charity for the Re-Education of Homosexuals. Again, this is a very worthwhile charity that seeks to eliminate the bad behavior of homosexuality through a 20 day, intensive counseling program. A lifetime of closeted homosexual behavior can simply be ELIMINATED with deep prayer -- but they need money to keep it going. Only PSA 8 charity slabs will do.<br /><br />Clearly, these organizations will do more for the greater good then, let's say, that silly cancer research.<br /><br />

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02-09-2007, 08:44 AM
Posted By: <b>barrysloate</b><p><img src="/images/happy.gif" height=14 width=14>

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02-09-2007, 09:06 AM
Posted By: <b>Rhys</b><p>As a very longtime forum member who just barely read this thread, I would like to suggest a very worthwhile, and COMPLETELY neutral Charity idea for at least some serious consideration.<br /><br />The High School in my hometown of Middleton Idaho was completely destroyed by fire last week. It made the National news for a day or so, but the scene is horrible and looks like the aftermath of 911. There are over 600 high school students with no books, no musical instruments, no teachers files, no gym equipment, nothing. They are now seperating up the kids to go to different churches and charity organizations while the town figures out something to do. People all over our community (15 miles from Boise Idaho) are trying to put together dinners and yardsales to help the kids out, but the need is extremely pressing to get these kids books and the basics to get back to normal. The band and orchestra for the school had all their instruments destroyed and most of the parents can not afford to buy new ones, and the school can not pay for it.<br /><br />I am sure we could make a very significant difference to in a real way rather than donating money to a mega-charity where the money will be used well, but the results never seen. I would be willing to bet anything that the school would honor the donation in a way that would bring some positive attention to the forum and the hobby to people who may have never heard of it before.<br /><br />If this is something you guys are not interested in supporting for a charity idea, I will respect that. But I cant think of anything more neutral in ideology than a public school in absolutely desperate need of charity.<br /><br />Rhys Yeakley

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02-09-2007, 09:34 AM
Posted By: <b>Jay</b><p>Rhys--I think we have already agreed upon a charity--the Painted Turtle. The posts by Jeff and Barry were just kidding around.

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02-10-2007, 07:22 AM
Posted By: <b>Kyle</b><p>Likely my last posting on this. Still waiting to hear back via email from some of those who said they'd be sending stuff in. I hope no one seriously is not sending anything because they don't like the charity! We've got a nice t206 group brewing here!<br /><br /><br />1921 Exhibit Eddie Collins<br />1933 Goudey #119 Rogers Hornsby<br />1933 Goudey Charlie Root<br />1933 Sports Kings Carl Hubbell SGC 20<br />1933 Sports Kings Vince Richards SGC 50<br />1951 Bowman Near Set (301 of 324) - Poor to Good<br />Card set celebrating the History of Baseball<br />E145 Cracker Jack (1915) - Groh (Cinn) - GD<br />E90 Kitty Bransfield<br />E91-C Am. Caramel - Leach (Pitt) - GD<br />E93 Standard Caramel - Coveleskie (Cinn) - PSA 1<br />E96 Ed Karger<br />Halper Collection Card packs x12<br />M101-5 Bob Harmon (blank back)<br />M101-5 Bob Roth (Famous Barr back)<br />N172 Old Judge - Khouff (Browns) - Poor <br />N172 Old Judge - Zimmer (Cleveland) - Poor<br />Our National Game Pin Al Simmons<br />R327 Diamond Stars Grace PSA 3<br />R327 Diamond Stars Kuhel PSA 3<br />R327 Diamond Stars Rice PSA 3<br />Reprint of Reccius Honus Wagner<br />Reprint of Toleteros Josh Gibson<br />T206 Addie Joss (pitching) SGC 30<br />T206 Bill Clymer PSA 4<br />T206 Chief Bender SGC 40 (Portrait)<br />T206 Cy Seymour<br />T206 Cy Seymour, N.Y. Natl Sweet Caporal 350-460<br />T206 Frank Owen NM 7 (MK)<br />T206 Hal Chase Dark Cap PSA 3<br />T206 Hughie Jennings (one hand) SGC 40<br />T206 Jimmy Collins SGC 40<br />T206 Joe Tinker (bat off) SGC 40<br />T206 Johnny Evers (portrait) SGC 40<br />T206 Mordecai Brown (Cubs on shirt) SGC 40<br />T206 Sweet Caporal - F. Clarke (with bat) - SGC 10<br />T206 Wilhelm<br />T207 Warhop SGC Authentic<br />T210 Series 7 Kaiser<br />T210 Series 8 Chapelle<br />T212 Lewis<br />Two 1951 books loaded with pictures<br />Two 1960 Hall of Fame books books<br />W565 Ace Hudkins (boxer - nrmt)<br />W565 Al Simmons (ex)<br />W565 Al Singer (boxer - nrmt)<br />WG5 Jennings PSA 7

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02-10-2007, 11:52 AM
Posted By: <b>Kyle</b><p>Hi Everyone,<br /><br />I've received all items I've been emailed about. I am inclined to send to REA mid-week next week, to give them several extra days to prepare the item.<br /><br />If you are planning on sending something in, please email immediately so I know to wait. Otherwise, your items may be returned to you.<br /><br />Regards,<br />Kyle Bicking<br /><br /><br />

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02-10-2007, 12:10 PM
Posted By: <b>leon</b><p>This is a great cause folks. Please think about giving a little to those children that this program helps. At the end of our lives on earth no one will care about what you have, but will care about what you have done.....

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02-10-2007, 12:19 PM
Posted By: <b>barrysloate</b><p>What beautiful sentiment...elegantly stated! <img src="/images/happy.gif" height=14 width=14>

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02-10-2007, 01:25 PM
Posted By: <b>peter chao</b><p>Kyle, guys<br /><br />What a great bunch of cards you've managed to assemble, you've all been very generous, when is the auction. I'm ready to bid. <img src="/images/happy.gif" height=14 width=14><br /><br />Peter

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02-10-2007, 02:13 PM
Posted By: <b>Kyle</b><p>Hi Peter,<br /><br />REA's next auction I believe is in April.<br /><br />Thanks,<br />Kyle<br /><br /><br /><br /><br />EDITED to remove names.

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02-10-2007, 02:14 PM
Posted By: <b>Rhys</b><p>Sorry, didn't read those poasts as this thing was huge when I first read it. I will still find something to donate to it.<br /><br />Rhys

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02-10-2007, 02:17 PM
Posted By: <b>leon</b><p>As we have discussed privately you are doing a really nice thing here. However I would kindly ask that the questions about "are you sending something or not?" addressed to individuals be handled in private emails. No one should feel they are on the spot to donate...and I am sure you didn't mean it to be that way but when asking publicly it is sort of that way. So for those folks asked about donating....if you respond please do it privately to emails to Kyle....or not....it's everyone's own, personal choice....take care and best regards...

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02-10-2007, 02:24 PM
Posted By: <b>Kyle</b><p>Sorry, just going off of posts in the original thread from people who "committed", but I haven't heard from. I just want to give Rob as much time to get the auction put together and not delay the catalog printing.<br /><br />Thanks,<br />Kyle<br /><br />

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02-10-2007, 02:25 PM
Posted By: <b>Joann</b><p>Kyle,<br /><br />I sent you both an email and a card. Not sure why the email didn't take, but the card I sent out earlier this week so it might not be there yet. If you don't have it now, you should within the next mail day or so.<br /><br />Joann

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02-10-2007, 02:30 PM
Posted By: <b>Kyle</b><p>Would you mind sending me another email to kylebicking@yahoo.com?<br /><br />Thanks for confirming, I will hold off on sending until your package arrives.<br /><br />Warm Regards,<br />Kyle<br /><br />

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02-11-2007, 11:04 AM
Posted By: <b>Kyle</b><p>Last chance to join the auction. I've received all items I've been emailed about. If you'd like to join the auction, email me at kylebicking@yahoo.com letting me know what you're sending. If no responses, I will mail to REA on Monday allowing them an extra week to work on the catalog.<br /><br />Thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you to all those who contributed!<br />-Kyle-<br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br />------<br />To join the Net54 Charity Auction sponsored by Robert Edward Auctions:<br />1. Send in any card(s) or other memorabilia legibilly specifying with what it is, year, player, variation, etc. to the address below<br />2. Please declare value(s) of your items if you'd like a tax document. Please also provide your return address <br />3. Cards MUST be sent by Monday<br />4. Send email confirmation of your intention to participate and what you're sending to my email

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04-04-2007, 03:05 PM
Posted By: <b>Cat</b><p><br /><br /><a href="http://www.robertedwardauctions.com/site/bidplace.aspx?itemid=9748" target="_new" rel="nofollow">http://www.robertedwardauctions.com/site/bidplace.aspx?itemid=9748</a>

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04-04-2007, 03:35 PM
Posted By: <b>Kyle</b><p>Thanks for posting the link! I've been checking the website every day waiting to see it. Robert did an awesome job photographing everything, well above and beyond what I had expected.<br /><br />Hope it sells well!<br /><br />-Kyle-

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04-04-2007, 03:37 PM
Posted By: <b>Dave F</b><p>Looks great..good job Kyle and Robert for efforts put in.

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04-04-2007, 03:41 PM
Posted By: <b>Dan Bretta</b><p>Is there a way to see the other auction lots in the 2007 auction? How did you find that Cat?<br /><br />edited to add: Nevermind...My big brain finally figured it out. <img src="/images/wink.gif" height=14 width=14>

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04-04-2007, 03:52 PM
Posted By: <b>Cat</b><p>Dan:<br /><br />I just e-mailed you prior to your edit.

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04-28-2007, 10:35 AM
Posted By: <b>Kyle</b><p>$3500.00 bid so far! AWESOME!<br /><br /><a href="http://www.robertedwardauctions.com/site/bidplace.aspx?itemid=9748" target="_new" rel="nofollow">http://www.robertedwardauctions.com/site/bidplace.aspx?itemid=9748</a><br /><br /><br />Thanks again everyone,<br />Kyle<br /><br />

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04-28-2007, 11:04 AM
Posted By: <b>Dan Bretta</b><p>Am I understanding this correctly that the high bidder will write the check out to the Painted Turtle Charity? Does that mean that not only do they get the cards, but they also get the write-off on their taxes?

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04-28-2007, 11:07 AM
Posted By: <b>peter chao</b><p>Kyle,<br /><br />Great job!!!!!<br /><br />Peter

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04-28-2007, 12:27 PM
Posted By: <b>Kyle</b><p>Dan, yep... that's seemingly how it works. If we do a next one, I plan on trying to figure out a way for all donators to the cause to get the write off doc.

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04-28-2007, 12:54 PM
Posted By: <b>Scott Levy</b><p>Guys,<br /><br />I'm so sorry that I wasn't part of the posting board at the time this was organized. But I think it was a fabulous idea and obviously a very successful one ... already raising thousands for a great cause. <br /><br />Point being, that I want in on all the fun! So as I salute the success of this past effort, I'd like to make a plea to everyone to try it again. Anyone else willing to give it another go?

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04-28-2007, 01:02 PM
Posted By: <b>Dan Bretta</b><p>As long as REA continues to do this I will continue to donate to the cause.

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04-28-2007, 02:46 PM
Posted By: <b>Kyle</b><p>Imagine what we can do if I have a few months to receive items, but would too many items be less effective? Could the value be too much and turn away bidders?<br /><br />Looking forward to round two in the future. I am offering now to collect, organize and send it all to REA, or whomever takes it on next.<br /><br />-Kyle<br /><br />

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04-28-2007, 03:55 PM
Posted By: <b>Joann</b><p>I kind of like the idea of an annual thing with REA if they would be willing. Then there would be plenty of time, people would know ahead of time when it would be and could plan for it and maybe even buy cards with the annual charity auction in mind. I don't know if this is a good thing for REA or something difficult for them to do, but in my opinion they should be first in line to host it if they want - because they were willing to do it first.<br /><br />I think if it happened too often the great concept would get diluted. Maybe annual is too infrequent, but at least it would have some pow every year.<br /><br />Joann

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04-28-2007, 04:29 PM
Posted By: <b>barrysloate</b><p>I think Rob would be happy to do it. If you look at some of his past auctions, he often devoted several pages to charitable causes.

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04-29-2007, 01:42 PM
Posted By: <b>Kyle</b><p>This is awesome! Above and beyond what I expected!