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04-20-2007, 02:19 PM
Posted By: <b>Brett</b><p>Does anyone have a list of the last living players from some T and E sets or even some N sets ? For the 1909-1911 cards, i'd guess that Rube Marquard was the last living player, and Smokey Joe Wood or Edd Roush ? for the 1910's sets ? <br /><br />I think for the e107 set, Freddy Parent. he died in 1972, 96 years old. t205 and t206 Rube Marquard, died in 1980, 93 years old. need more help here...

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04-20-2007, 02:24 PM
Posted By: <b>Anonymous</b><p>Maybe Edd Roush for 1915 Cracker Jack? He died in 1984.

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04-20-2007, 02:53 PM
Posted By: <b>jay behrens</b><p>Chet Hoff for t207. That's the only one I know for sure.<br /><br />Jay<br><br>I love pinatas. You get to beat the crap of something and get rewarded with candy.

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04-20-2007, 03:30 PM
Posted By: <b>Dave S</b><p>Roush is correct for 1915 CJ's, but believe he lasted till 1988..

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04-20-2007, 03:48 PM
Posted By: <b>Rich Klein</b><p>He lived till 1961. Can't think on anyone who lived longer.<br /><br />Connie Mack was 1956.<br /><br />Rich

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04-20-2007, 03:51 PM
Posted By: <b>T206Collector</b><p>You can click this link to see everyone who died in 1980 (the year Marquard died). You can then click previous year or next year and then scroll through the names. Pretty interesting. <br /><br /><a href="http://www.baseball-reference.com/leagues/ML_1980_death.shtml" target="_new" rel="nofollow">http://www.baseball-reference.com/leagues/ML_1980_death.shtml</a>

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04-20-2007, 03:59 PM
Posted By: <b>Brett</b><p>I forgot about Chet Hoff. he died in 1998 I think at the age of 107 ! Thats pretty crazy. If i lived to be 107, it would be the year 2093 lol. <br /><br />Thanks for that link. Its interesting because some of these guys who played in the 1910s and who lived to be in their 90's only played a few games in the majors. I wonder if anyone wrote to them and got their autographs. Also, have you guys ever wondered what happened to these players uniforms from the 1910's or earlier ? I wonder if the relatives of those ball players still have them in a trunk in an attic somewhere !

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04-20-2007, 05:09 PM
Posted By: <b>Justin</b><p>My guess is they just re-used the uniforms for other players, and then were probably thrown out when they got ruined.<br /><br />I know the Boston Bruins would pass their jerseys on to their minor league clubs, I read an interesting story about how collectors were able to track Bobby Orr's rookie jersey down by examining photos of the Bruins minor league teams and comparing them with Bobby in 1966-67.

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04-20-2007, 06:20 PM
Posted By: <b>sean</b><p>actually in the t206 set. The last player to die is Art Butler. He died in 1984 at the age of 96 <img src="/images/happy.gif" height=14 width=14>

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04-20-2007, 06:21 PM
Posted By: <b>sean</b><p>actually, I got paul otis and chester hoff on a baseball. I was gonna get all the players that lived to be 100 but Never continued <img src="/images/sad.gif" height=14 width=14><br />I tried so hard to get a t207 of hoff before he died but thats hard to find even now.

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04-20-2007, 06:25 PM
Posted By: <b>Chris Counts</b><p>How about Bill Werber from the Diamond Stars and Werber and his former teammate and friend Lonny Frey in the '34 Goudey set? Are these guys the oldest living players who appeared on cards?

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04-20-2007, 07:01 PM
Posted By: <b>Brett</b><p>Hey Sean, I didn't know that Art Butler was the last living player from the t206 set. This might be a tough question, but do you know who the last living minor or southern leaguers who never played in the major leagues was ? I wouldn't know where to find out that info if they never played a major league game. I wonder if there is any signed examples in someones attic or under a floor board.

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04-20-2007, 08:10 PM
Posted By: <b>sean</b><p>hi brett,<br />its hard to find out anout the minor leagurers. Art butler was a minor leaguer in the t206 set but I only found him because he played in the maJors <img src="/images/happy.gif" height=14 width=14>

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04-21-2007, 09:29 PM
Posted By: <b>Tom Hufford</b><p>Arthur Edward Butler, who played in the majors 1911-16, died October 7 1984, but he played with his hometown Fall River team in the New England League in 1910. He was not in the T206 set.<br /><br />The Butler with Rochester in T206 was John Albert Butler, who played in the majors 1901-07. He was a student at Fordham and played his first ML game (season) under the name of Fred King. John Butler died Feb. 2, 1950, long before many of the other T206ers.<br /><br />The T206ers who survived past 1970 (unless I've missed someone), and their dates of death:<br /><br />Rube Marquard 6-1-1980<br />Paddy Livingston 9-19-1977<br />Al Shaw 12-30-1974<br />Fred Snodgrass 4-5-1974<br />Larry Doyle 3-1-1974<br />George McBride 7-2-1973<br />Dutch Jordan 12-23-1972<br />Fred Parent 11-2-1972<br />Davy Jones 3-30-1972<br />Donie Bush 3-28-1972<br />Zach Wheat 3-11-1972<br />Chief Meyers 7-25-1971<br />Harry Pattee 7-17-1971<br /><br /><br />Tom Hufford

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04-24-2007, 09:04 AM
Posted By: <b>T206Collector</b><p>Marquard: I'm going to outlive you.<br />Livingston: How can you tell?<br />Marquard: Because I can see the future.<br />Livingston: Oh, yeah?<br />Marquard: And to prove it -- even though we never played in the same game together, I am going to have this gentleman take our picture.<br /><br /><img src="http://www.network54.com/Realm/tmp/1177343370.JPG"> <br /><br />Why else would they have had occasion to be photographed together? Indeed, they were the last two living members of T206, but how could they have known that 70 years earleir?

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04-24-2007, 09:25 AM
Posted By: <b>Ed</b><p>I hope I am not straying too far from topic, but is there any truth to the proposition that the only autographs worth collecting are of those who died before 1980?

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04-24-2007, 09:43 AM
Posted By: <b>James Feagin</b><p>Tom,<br /><br />T206er Nap Rucker didn't make it "past" 1970, but died in 1970.