T206 Funny Bunch...

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Posted By: <b>Trae R.</b><p>Alright, so just to throw out a few I've got here:<br />- Sleepy Bill Burns with his backwards glove<br />- Bill Clymer with only 4 fingers<br />- Bill Bergen with 2 collars in one<br /><br />Ironically they all have the first name Bill! Maybe the artist didn't like guys by the name of Bill. <img src="/images/happy.gif" height=14 width=14><br /><br /><b>Post some more funny or oddball images from the set!</b><br /><br /><img src="http://www.mlbvintage.com/misc/burnsbill.jpg"><br /><br /><img src="http://www.mlbvintage.com/misc/clymerbill.jpg"><br /><br /><img src="http://www.mlbvintage.com/misc/bergenbill.jpg"><br /><br />(These nice clean images are part of a full set display project I am working on. I will of course share when it's done. &lt;/suspense&gt;)

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Posted By: <b>MVSNYC</b><p>IMO, you are 1 for 3 (.333 batting avg is not too shabby)...<br /><br />you are correct, that obviously Sleepy Bill Burns has his glove on backwards, i'll give you that.<br /><br />BUT, the way i see it, Clymer's pointer finger is "pointed" up on his belt, i am sure his thumb is behind his waist.<br /><br />and Bergen's "double" collar is (i think) part of a wrap-over front sweater, like many other players wear in the T206 set...<br /><br />just my opinions.

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Posted By: <b>Justin</b><p>I think the real humor of the Bergen card, is that he is the holding the bat like he knows what its for.

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Posted By: <b>Mark L</b><p>Bergen's bat looks a little short, too.

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Posted By: <b>Joe D.</b><p>assuming a thumb behind my waist....<br />I can't make my hand do what Clymer's is doing without dislocating a finger.<br /><br />two middle fingers together and pointing down at like a 45degree angle.<br />pinky pointing down at the same angle or greater.<br /><br />and that pointer - pointing way up.<br /><br />impossible for me.

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Posted By: <b>Max Weder</b><p>I don't know about Clymer, but my index finger can only bend at about a 45% angle away from the middle finger. The image has Clymer with a 90% angle. Clymer would indeed be impossibly flexible in the image to have his thumb behind his index finger. <br /><br /><br />Max

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Posted By: <b>Sean BH</b><p>And that’s why Clymer was a professional baseball player and we weren't. <br /><br />Sean BH <img src="/images/happy.gif" height=14 width=14>

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Posted By: <b>MVSNYC</b><p>i thought this would be a fun exercise for every to try on a Monday morning. <img src="/images/happy.gif" height=14 width=14><br /><br />i still think the artist intended to illustrate clymer with all of his fingers intact, just my opinion.<br /><br />c'mon Joe- back me up here buddy. LOL

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Posted By: <b>Sean BH</b><p>Was Clymer ever on the Simpsons?<br /><br />D'oh!

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Posted By: <b>Trae R.</b><p>Haha, Sean, I was going to say something similar when I described the Clymer image. No one has any other funny's to point out?<br /><br />What's up with Clancy's right hand? It's as big as the glove!<br /><img src="http://www.mlbvintage.com/misc/clancybill.jpg"><br /><br />Wiltse's sweater...<br /><img src="http://www.mlbvintage.com/misc/wiltsehookspotrait_w_cap.jpg">

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Posted By: <b>MVSNYC</b><p>the issue is that clancy's glove is as SMALL as his hand...<br /><br />and Wilste's sweater is the "fold-over" one i refered to earlier...

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Posted By: <b>Trae R.</b><p>Michael, you've gotta admit they both look silly though! You sure are on the defensive for these artists. I think you're giving them too much credit though, personally. It's a beautiful set, second only to T3 in my opinion, but they did goof on many perspectives.

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Posted By: <b>MVSNYC</b><p>well, i am not related to any of the artisits, so i have no reason to defend them...ALL of these exact "goofs" as you call them, i noticed years ago, and found reasons for almost all except the Burns glove...keep on looking, good thread.

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Posted By: <b>Trae R.</b><p>Yep, the more I looked for the sweater "goof" I noticed it's on many of the New York player's card... Doyle is one of the more notable.<br /><br />I'll keep my eyes peeled. <img src="/images/happy.gif" height=14 width=14><br /><br />Here's one I've been meaning to ask about... what is your opinion, diving for a ball (horizontal) or catching a fly ball (vertical)? I personally think it's a vertical pose (as currently recognized) but looks cool as a horizontal also.<br /><br /><img src="http://www.mlbvintage.com/misc/dunnjack.jpg">

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Posted By: <b>MVSNYC</b><p>vertical...

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Posted By: <b>Steve M.</b><p>vertical

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Posted By: <b>Max Weder</b><p>Gulp. On Clymer, I checked with my spouse. She pointed out I was inflexible (figuratively and literally) and that her index and middle fingers easily spread that wide, in part from playing the piano.<br /><br />I thus change my vote and Clymer is not a "funny bunch" T206.<br /><br />Max

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Posted By: <b>MVSNYC</b><p>2 more contributions to the "funny bunch"...<br /><br />ball, cleveland...where's his glove? maybe he just caught a butterfly?<br /><br />shannon...where's his eyes? they look blacked-out...scary!

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Posted By: <b>anthony</b><p>this vertical/horizontal ? could be either...<br /><br />the more i look at it, the more it looks like he is diving for the ball, making it horizontal...if its vertical, he's either making a "willie mays" catch running forward toward the homerun fence or he's got his glove the wrong way and is standing under the ball...kinda like a beginning outfielder (age 6-7) would do.

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Posted By: <b>Trae R.</b><p>Nice, Mike! (Do you mind "Mike", by the way?)<br /><br />"maybe he just caught a butterfly?" Hahaha!<br /><br />Anthony, I agree with what you're saying! The other's are so obvious, I suppose this one will forever be a matter of opinion.<br /><br /><img src="http://www.mlbvintage.com/misc/ballneal.jpg"><br /><br /><img src="http://www.mlbvintage.com/misc/shannonspike.jpg">

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Posted By: <b>MVSNYC</b><p>Mike is fine...<br /><br />keep searching for those "funny" cards, i have a few others in mind. will share them later when i have more time.

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Posted By: <b>John S</b><p>Look at Clarke's bat between his two hands...doesn't quite line up. I pulled this image from my T3...don't have the T206 but I know that the image is shared with the T206.<br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><img src="http://www.network54.com/Realm/tmp/1176215500.JPG">

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Posted By: <b>Trae R.</b><p>I think it may be an optical illusion due to the way his hands are held, the shadows or something? I drew two straight lines in Photoshop parallel to the bat and it's straight.<br /><br />Keep looking though, this is interesting!<br /><br /><img src="http://www.mlbvintage.com/misc/clarkefredwith_bat.jpg">

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Posted By: <b>Jon Canfield</b><p>On the Chappelle, Rochester card, I once noticed his belt buckle certainly doesn't line up with his "fly". In fact, I remember there being a belt loop right where his belt buckle should be. Maybe somebody has an image to post?

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Posted By: <b>Mark L</b><p>I'd never noticed the mushroom knob on Fred's bat--are there other examples of early knobs in t206?

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Posted By: <b>Steve M.</b><p>As I recall the story the players had their belt buckles on the side so as not to have it dig into them when they slid into a base. It would then make sense that there would be a belt loop above the fly.

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Posted By: <b>Trae R.</b><p>Steve is right. There are many examples of this belt buckle on the side stuff in the set.

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Posted By: <b>Jon Canfield</b><p>Ahhhh - makes sense. You learn something new everyday!

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Posted By: <b>DaveW</b><p>Here's the Chapelle card. The belt buckle is definitely on the side. Maybe our kids took a lesson here.<br /><br /><img src="http://www.network54.com/Realm/tmp/1176239271.JPG">

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Posted By: <b>Ed McCollum</b><p>Don't have one to attach (and PhotoBucket and I have never gotten along well), but his fielding pose certainly makes him look vertically challenged, if you know what I mean...

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Posted By: <b>Joe D.</b><p>edit: to keep it clean... never mind.<br />

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Posted By: <b>Steve M.</b><p><img src="http://www.network54.com/Realm/tmp/1176240559.JPG">

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Posted By: <b>MVSNYC</b><p>yes, many players wore their belts to the side so they wouldn't hurt themselves when sliding head-first.

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Posted By: <b>Steve Dawson</b><p>On the Donovan (throwing) card, is he flipping an upside-down bird?<br /><br />Also, the Wilhelm (hands at chest) is another one where he doesn't have a glove. It also appears he doesn't even have a ball in his hands.<br /><br /><br />Steve

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Posted By: <b>Trae R.</b><p><img src="http://www.mlbvintage.com/misc/donovanwildbillthrowing.jpg"><br /><br /><img src="http://www.mlbvintage.com/misc/wilhelmkaiserhands_at_che.jpg">

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Posted By: <b>Steve M.</b><p>another backwards glove ala Burns?

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Posted By: <b>DaveW</b><p>These guys look OK, but the placement of the Toronto could be better. Other cards center the middle O on the button flap.<br /><br /><br /><img src="http://www.network54.com/Realm/tmp/1176266252.JPG"> <img src="http://www.network54.com/Realm/tmp/1176266451.JPG"> <br /><br /><br />Edited to add another that is really off-center<br /><br /><img src="http://www.network54.com/Realm/tmp/1176267485.JPG">

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Posted By: <b>Trae R.</b><p>Nice catches, Dave! For me, those are tough to notice for some reason. The Fromme and Mitchell are very drastic!

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Posted By: <b>MVSNYC</b><p>alot of the southern leaguers have off-center team names on their chest...the artists just crammed them on trying to make them fit the images somehow (see Trae, i don't always defend the artists)... <img src="/images/happy.gif" height=14 width=14>

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Posted By: <b>Trae R.</b><p><img src="/images/happy.gif" height=14 width=14> @ Mike<br /><br />I really never noticed how many of them really are off center... wow!

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Posted By: <b>Trae R.</b><p>Against my better judgment, I will say that Egan reminds me a lot of Terry Schiavo.<br /><br /><a href="http://tinyurl.com/2ufjg2" target="_new" rel="nofollow">http://tinyurl.com/2ufjg2</a><br /><img src="http://www.mlbvintage.com/misc/egandick.jpg"><br />