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04-08-2007, 05:19 PM
Posted By: <b>MVSNYC</b><p>just to clarify...from an earlier debate...<br /><br />i was looking thru a 2006 SCD Standard Catalog of BBC...(by the way, glad to see they give some of our "brothers" credit, Ted Z, Leon L, Scott B, Ryan C, Rob L, Dan M, Kevin S, Barry S, Rhys Y, etc, etc...) <br /><br />under most T206 Rare backs, commons use a much higher multiplier than HOFers...<br /><br />UZIT for example: <br /><br />Commons: 25-35x<br />HOFers: 3-6x (although i think it is definetly towards the higher number, i agree with their position).

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04-08-2007, 05:31 PM
Posted By: <b>Dave F</b><p>Michael....what does that issue have for commons in Broadleaf 350 and 460's, Lenox's, and Drums?

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04-08-2007, 06:03 PM
Posted By: <b>MVSNYC</b><p>BL 350- 8-10x commons (doesn't list HOFers)<br /><br />BL 460- 30-40x (HOFers- 15-20x)<br /><br />Drum- 40x commons (doesn't list HOFers)<br /><br />Lenox/black- 10-12x commons (HOFers- 4-6x)<br /><br />Lenox/brown- 75-100x commons (HOFers- 40-60x) <br />

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04-08-2007, 06:08 PM
Posted By: <b>scott brockelman</b><p>A common BL 460 would bring closer to 100X, I have sold a couple for $2000 +/- and that was a couple of years ago when they were more available, at least for a brief period of time when a small group of 3 or 4 were discovered by Runscott that a guy was selling on ebay.<br /><br />Scott

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04-08-2007, 06:12 PM
Posted By: <b>MVSNYC</b><p>scott- not to "hijack" my own thread, but do you (or anyone else watching) currently have a BL 460 that you would be willing to sell?

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04-08-2007, 06:18 PM
Posted By: <b>barrysloate</b><p>Be patient Michael- you know I have one coming up in June!

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04-08-2007, 06:22 PM
Posted By: <b>MVSNYC</b><p>you had to go and tell everyone?... <br /><br />patience is something i am trying to get.<br /><br /><img src="/images/happy.gif" height=14 width=14>

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04-08-2007, 06:23 PM
Posted By: <b>scott brockelman</b><p>I only have one for my personal collection, I sold an SGC 60 knowing that I had a much nicer raw one, then I got the raw one graded and it came back 50, I have scans of both and the 50 is MUCH nicer, go figure. When the small group came to market, I was able to get 2 of them and already had another, I sold them fairly quickly and not many more have been for sale since.<br /><br /> not to mention the Red Cobb portrait that I had at one time, another board member now owns it <img src="/images/sad.gif" height=14 width=14><br /><br /><br /><br /><br />Scott

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04-08-2007, 06:24 PM
Posted By: <b>Cobby33</b><p>I think the Drum multiplier might be a little light too.

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04-08-2007, 06:30 PM
Posted By: <b>barrysloate</b><p>Everyone is going to find out anyway. It's a Vic Willis with Broadleaf 460. I have many other rare backs too, but you'll have to wait.

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04-08-2007, 06:31 PM
Posted By: <b>MVSNYC</b><p>i agree...the DRUM multiplier is alittle light.

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04-08-2007, 06:32 PM
Posted By: <b>MVSNYC</b><p>barry- i will put some "coin" aside for your next auction!<br /><br />thanks.<br />MS

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04-08-2007, 06:35 PM
Posted By: <b>rob</b><p>Is it me, or does there seem to be a proliferation of Uzits available lately? Is this a direct result of the Rob Lifson find a little while ago?

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04-08-2007, 06:39 PM
Posted By: <b>MVSNYC</b><p>i think a big part of it is people are simply realizing that these rare backs are not getting any younger, and they are not producing anymore of them...so they want to bring them out of the vaults and capitalize on how hot they are now, and make some money.

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04-08-2007, 06:44 PM
Posted By: <b>barrysloate</b><p>Probably a combination of the two. Whoever bought the large group likely had some already and now has some dupes...plus a lot of people feel this is a good time to sell.

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04-08-2007, 07:24 PM
Posted By: <b>Cobby33</b><p>t206musuem.com lists the Drum at 65x. That's a little but more accurate, IMO.

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04-08-2007, 07:31 PM
Posted By: <b>MVSNYC</b><p>that seems right on, actually...and i would lean towards T206museum's advice anyway.

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04-09-2007, 07:41 AM
Posted By: <b>Jim Dale</b><p>Will this be for sale here, an auction house or ebay?

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04-09-2007, 08:27 AM
Posted By: <b>barrysloate</b><p>Jim- it will be in my June auction but don't want to go into detail right now on the board. Before it begins I will post and let everyone know.