New SGC cases?

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Posted By: <b>Russ Bright</b><p>I just recieved a few cards that I bought in an ebay auction - the numbers seem to show up on the registry, and the cards look real and everything, but the SGC cases seem thinner and flimsy - on the flap it has the 10/20/30 designation and the word (poor/good) but not the other PSA style number. Also the hologram on the back is bigger and different.<br /><br />did they change it? did i I get ripped off? I have no other cards that look like these - but this seller seems to have a pile like this.<br /><br />examples...<br /><br /><img src="http://i90.photobucket.com/albums/k270/ambrosia2_2006/collinsfront010.jpg"><br /><br /><img src="http://i90.photobucket.com/albums/k270/ambrosia2_2006/collinsback011.jpg"><br /><br />help? thoughts?<br /><br />thanks for anything you have!<br /><br />Russ

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Posted By: <b>Glenn</b><p>That's the older one.

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Posted By: <b>Judge Dred (Fred)</b><p>There have been a few label changes by SGC since they started encapsulating cards. I actually like the older hologram on the back because of the new and old ball players depicted. Heres a scan of a card graded by SGC from their earlier days. You can see the difference in the front label.<br /><br /> <img src="http://www.network54.com/Realm/tmp/1173254537.JPG">

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Posted By: <b>warshawlaw</b><p>there are size and configuration variances from the earlier to later cases. Earlier cases are noticeably thinner and smaller

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Posted By: <b>Jack Richards</b><p>A few years ago, I asked SGC to convert to the newer cases a few cards that had been graded in the older cases. They wouldn't do it, saying that their standards for grading are higher now than they were then. <br /><br />For example, they said that a card that graded "92 NM/MT+" in the old days was not necessarily a "92 NM/MT+ 8.5" today. <br /><br />It seemed to me that once a NM/MT+ always a NM/MT+, although a NM/MT+ is now called an 8.5, but they didn't see it that way. <br /><br />The lesson, I guess, is that if you buy an SGC card in an old holder, it might be a lower grade (using the current scale) than it appears to be.