View Full Version : Real...Deal or Fake...Mistake
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02-27-2007, 04:53 PM
Posted By: <b>Patrick McMenemy</b><p>A little over a week back, this auction ran on ebay. I didn't want to out it while it was running, but I was curious as to what everyone else's opinion on this item might be? Being that I have never heard of a smaller size Plow Boy Tobacco Cabinet, I stayed away from bidding on this item.<br /><br /><br /><a href="http://cgi.ebay.com/very-RARE-vintage-card-TOM-NEEDHAM-Cubs-1910-Plowboy_W0QQitemZ270089958888QQihZ017QQcategoryZ86 841QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem" target="_new" rel="nofollow">http://cgi.ebay.com/very-RARE-vintage-card-TOM-NEEDHAM-Cubs-1910-Plowboy_W0QQitemZ270089958888QQihZ017QQcategoryZ86 841QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem</a><br /><br />Patrick
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02-27-2007, 05:05 PM
Posted By: <b>dan mckee</b><p>My vote is no good.
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02-27-2007, 05:09 PM
Posted By: <b>Steve M.</b><p>Sure looks legit to me but I admit to never having heard of the smaller size. I've owned several large ones over the years.<br /><br />What lends some credence to the card is the reference to Spaulding & Merrick and what appears to be some price lists. The ebay scan is real hard to read.<br /><br />Buyer is a strong buyer of this kind of material. The underbidder with 1-10 total feedback gives me a little concern.<br /><br />All in all I'll cast my vote for "real".
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02-27-2007, 05:31 PM
Posted By: <b>Steve f</b><p>The staining around the entire periphery is kinda unusual. Hevan't seen that before. The worn 'gray' border showing bright white beneath is kinda whacky too.<br /><br />Great reputation and longevity with this seller, but this atypical wear is concerning.
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02-27-2007, 05:37 PM
Posted By: <b>Jim Clarke</b><p>My vote is real with poor photo. The back looks pretty good. If I would have seen it before it closed I would have asked for better photo..
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02-27-2007, 07:51 PM
Posted By: <b>Anonymous</b><p>There is a reprint set of these that measures 2 1/2 by 3 1/2 and which contains all the information shown on the back of the card, i.e, Spaulding & Merrick, etc. The cards say Reprint 1992 on the bottom right rear where this card shows unusual wear.
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02-27-2007, 08:06 PM
Posted By: <b>Steve M.</b><p>dkern:<br /><br />Good info. Thanks.<br /><br />Do you have a scan of an example that shows the reprint notation? <br /><br />
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02-27-2007, 08:53 PM
Posted By: <b>bcornell</b><p>It's a Fritsch reprint (<a href="http://www.fritschcards.com/reprints/1901_1910/1910plowboy.html" target="_new" rel="nofollow">http://www.fritschcards.com/reprints/1901_1910/1910plowboy.html</a>) that some enterprising soul has manipulated to look 'old'. Most of the Fritsch cards don't state that they're reprints, but the size, in this case, is a dead giveaway. It seems that T3's and T204's get the most tries as legitimate cards. The T3's are also small and the T204's look awful, so they're not hard to spot. <br /><br />Bill
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02-27-2007, 08:54 PM
Posted By: <b>RC McKenzie</b><p>This was the item that I alluded to in the thread about whether or not we should have threads about fakes while the auctions are going on. I'm about 99% positive that this is from the Fritsch reprint series.
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02-27-2007, 09:13 PM
Posted By: <b>Bob</b><p>I tried to contact the winning bidder with a link to the Fritsch cards but ebay, in its wisdom, now protects the seller of a fake card instead of the innocent buyer of the card by blocking transmissions from a 3rd party. Ain't ebay great?
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02-28-2007, 04:07 AM
Posted By: <b>Steve f</b><p>Incidentally tbob, ebaY could suspend your account for trying to reveal a scam to the naive buyer... Brilliant!
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02-28-2007, 08:04 AM
Posted By: <b>Steve M.</b><p>Board member jmcalist has recently purchased an item from the buyer. Maybe he could alert quinn4557.