New prices for T204, about time they update... [Archive]

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02-20-2007, 07:27 AM

Posted By: markI only have a few of these so i am not showing this for that reason. I think they were long over do to update this set. This is the best i can do other than take a picture of the screen and download it. The first value is PSA 5, and the end value is PSA 9. 1909 Ramly Cigarettes (T204) Description EX5 EXMT6 NM7 NMMT8 MT9 Complete Set (121) Singles 450+ 625+ 1250+ 2500+ 7500+ Whitey Alperman 450+ 625+ 1250+ 2500+ 7500+ John Anderson (photo inside oval frame) 450+ 625+ 1250+ 2500+ 7500+ John Anderson (square frame) 2200+ 3300+ 6000+ 12000+ 25000 Jimmy Archer 450+ 625+ 1250+ 2500+ 7500+ Frank Arrelanes (Arellanes) 450+ 625+ 1250+ 2500+ 7500+ Jim Ball 450+ 625+ 1250+ 2500+ 7500+ Neal Ball 450+ 625+ 1250+ 2500+ 7500+ Frank C. Bankfroft (photo inside oval frame) 450+ 625+ 1250+ 2500+ 7500+ Frank C. Bankfroft (square frame) 3000+ 4500+ 8000+ 16000+ 35000+ Johnny Bates 450+ 625+ 1250+ 2500+ 7500+ Fred Beebe 450+ 625+ 1250+ 2500+ 7500+ George Bell 450+ 625+ 1250+ 2500+ 7500+ Chief Bender (HOF) 1500+ 2250+ 4000+ 8000+ 17500+ Walter Blair 450+ 625+ 1250+ 2500+ 7500+ Cliff Blankenship 450+ 625+ 1250+ 2500+ 7500+ Frank Bowerman 450+ 625+ 1250+ 2500+ 7500+ Wm Bransfield (photo inside oval frame) 450+ 625+ 1250+ 2500+ 7500+ Wm Bransfield (square frame) 2200+ 3300+ 6000+ 12000+ 25000 Roger Bresnahan (HOF) 1500+ 2250+ 4000+ 8000+ 17500+ AL Bridwell 450+ 625+ 1250+ 2500+ 7500+ Mordecai Brown (HOF) 1500+ 2250+ 4000+ 8000+ 17500+ Fred Burchell 450+ 625+ 1250+ 2500+ 7500+ Jesse C. Burkett (oval frame) (HOF) 1500+ 2250+ 4000+ 8000+ 17500+ Jesse C. Burkett (square frame) (HOF) 4000+ 6000+ 10000+ 20000+ 40000+ Bobby Byrnes (Byrne) 450+ 625+ 1250+ 2500+ 7500+ Bill Carrigan 450+ 625+ 1250+ 2500+ 7500+ Frank Chance (HOF) 1500+ 2250+ 4000+ 8000+ 17500+ Charlie Chech 450+ 625+ 1250+ 2500+ 7500+ Ed. Cicolte (Cicotte) (Black Sox) 1200+ 1750+ 3200+ 6500+ 15000+ Otis Clymer 450+ 625+ 1250+ 2500+ 7500+ Andy Coakley 450+ 625+ 1250+ 2500+ 7500+ Jimmy Collins (HOF) 1500+ 2250+ 4000+ 8000+ 17500+ Eddie Collins (HOF) 1500+ 2250+ 4000+ 8000+ 17500+ Wid Conroy 450+ 625+ 1250+ 2500+ 7500+ Jack Coombs 450+ 625+ 1250+ 2500+ 7500+ Doc Crandall 450+ 625+ 1250+ 2500+ 7500+ Lou Criger 450+ 625+ 1250+ 2500+ 7500+ Harry Davis 450+ 625+ 1250+ 2500+ 7500+ Art Devlin 450+ 625+ 1250+ 2500+ 7500+ Wm H. Dineen (Dinneen) (photo inside oval frame) 450+ 625+ 1250+ 2500+ 7500+ Wm H. Dineen (Dinneen) (square frame) 2200+ 3300+ 6000+ 12000+ 25000 Jiggs Donahue 450+ 625+ 1250+ 2500+ 7500+ Mike Donlin 450+ 625+ 1250+ 2500+ 7500+ Wild Bill Donavan 450+ 625+ 1250+ 2500+ 7500+ Gus Dorner 450+ 625+ 1250+ 2500+ 7500+ Joe Dunn 450+ 625+ 1250+ 2500+ 7500+ Kid Elberfield (Elberfeld) 450+ 625+ 1250+ 2500+ 7500+ Johnny Evers (HOF) 1500+ 2250+ 4000+ 8000+ 17500+ Bob Ewing 450+ 625+ 1250+ 2500+ 7500+ Cecil Ferguson 450+ 625+ 1250+ 2500+ 7500+ Hobe Ferris 450+ 625+ 1250+ 2500+ 7500+ Jerry Freeman 450+ 625+ 1250+ 2500+ 7500+ Art Fromme 450+ 625+ 1250+ 2500+ 7500+ Bob Ganley 450+ 625+ 1250+ 2500+ 7500+ Doc Gessler 450+ 625+ 1250+ 2500+ 7500+ Clark Griffith (HOF) 1500+ 2250+ 4000+ 8000+ 17500+ Roy Hartzell 450+ 625+ 1250+ 2500+ 7500+ Charlie Hemphill 450+ 625+ 1250+ 2500+ 7500+ Dick Hoblitzel (Hoblitzell) 450+ 625+ 1250+ 2500+ 7500+ George Howard (photo inside oval frame) 450+ 625+ 1250+ 2500+ 7500+ George Howard (square frame) 2200+ 3300+ 6000+ 12000+ 25000 Harry Howell 450+ 625+ 1250+ 2500+ 7500+ Miller Huggins (HOF) 1500+ 2250+ 4000+ 8000+ 17500+ John Hummell (Hummel) 450+ 625+ 1250+ 2500+ 7500+ Walter Johnson (HOF) 7750+ 11500+ 19000+ 42000+ 85000+ Thos. Johnson 450+ 625+ 1250+ 2500+ 7500+ Mike Kahoe 450+ 625+ 1250+ 2500+ 7500+ Ed Kargar 450+ 625+ 1250+ 2500+ 7500+ Willie Keeler (HOF) 1500+ 2250+ 4000+ 8000+ 17500+ Red Kleinon (Kleinow) 450+ 625+ 1250+ 2500+ 7500+ Jack Knight 450+ 625+ 1250+ 2500+ 7500+ Ed Konetchey 450+ 625+ 1250+ 2500+ 7500+ Vive Lindaman 450+ 625+ 1250+ 2500+ 7500+ Hans Loebert (Lobert) 450+ 625+ 1250+ 2500+ 7500+ Harry Lord 450+ 625+ 1250+ 2500+ 7500+ Harry Lumley 450+ 625+ 1250+ 2500+ 7500+ Johnny Lush 450+ 625+ 1250+ 2500+ 7500+ Rube Manning 450+ 625+ 1250+ 2500+ 7500+ Jimmy McAleer 450+ 625+ 1250+ 2500+ 7500+ Amby McConnell 450+ 625+ 1250+ 2500+ 7500+ Moose McCormick 450+ 625+ 1250+ 2500+ 7500+ Harry McIntyre 450+ 625+ 1250+ 2500+ 7500+ Larry McLean 450+ 625+ 1250+ 2500+ 7500+ Fred Merkle 450+ 625+ 1250+ 2500+ 7500+ Clyde Milan 450+ 625+ 1250+ 2500+ 7500+ Mike Mitchell 450+ 625+ 1250+ 2500+ 7500+ Pat Moran (photo inside oval frame) 450+ 625+ 1250+ 2500+ 7500+ Pat Moran (square frame) 2200+ 3300+ 6000+ 12000+ 25000 Cy Morgan 450+ 625+ 1250+ 2500+ 7500+ Tim Murname (Murnane) 450+ 625+ 1250+ 2500+ 7500+ Danny Murphy 450+ 625+ 1250+ 2500+ 7500+ Red Murray 450+ 625+ 1250+ 2500+ 7500+ Doc Newton 450+ 625+ 1250+ 2500+ 7500+ Simon Nichols (Nicholls) 450+ 625+ 1250+ 2500+ 7500+ Harry Niles 450+ 625+ 1250+ 2500+ 7500+ Bill O''Hare (O''Hara) 450+ 625+ 1250+ 2500+ 7500+ Charley O''Leary 450+ 625+ 1250+ 2500+ 7500+ Dode Paskert 450+ 625+ 1250+ 2500+ 7500+ Barney Pelty 450+ 625+ 1250+ 2500+ 7500+ Jake Pfeister 450+ 625+ 1250+ 2500+ 7500+ Ed Plank (HOF) 1500+ 2250+ 4000+ 8000+ 17500+ Jack Powell 450+ 625+ 1250+ 2500+ 7500+ Bugs Raymond 450+ 625+ 1250+ 2500+ 7500+ Tom Reilly 450+ 625+ 1250+ 2500+ 7500+ Claude Ritchey 450+ 625+ 1250+ 2500+ 7500+ Nap Rucker 450+ 625+ 1250+ 2500+ 7500+ Ed Ruelbach (Reulbach) 450+ 625+ 1250+ 2500+ 7500+ Slim Sallee 450+ 625+ 1250+ 2500+ 7500+ Germany Schaefer 450+ 625+ 1250+ 2500+ 7500+ Jimmy Shekard (Sheckard) 450+ 625+ 1250+ 2500+ 7500+ Admiral Schlei 450+ 625+ 1250+ 2500+ 7500+ Wildfire Schulte 450+ 625+ 1250+ 2500+ 7500+ Jimmy Sebring 450+ 625+ 1250+ 2500+ 7500+ Bill Shipke 450+ 625+ 1250+ 2500+ 7500+ Charlie Smith 450+ 625+ 1250+ 2500+ 7500+ Tubby Spencer 450+ 625+ 1250+ 2500+ 7500+ Jake Stahl 450+ 625+ 1250+ 2500+ 7500+ Jim Stephens 450+ 625+ 1250+ 2500+ 7500+ Harry Stienfeldt (Steinfeldt) 450+ 625+ 1250+ 2500+ 7500+ Gabby Street 450+ 625+ 1250+ 2500+ 7500+ Bill Sweeney 450+ 625+ 1250+ 2500+ 7500+ Fred Tenney 450+ 625+ 1250+ 2500+ 7500+ Ira Thomas 450+ 625+ 1250+ 2500+ 7500+ Joe Tinker (HOF) 1500+ 2250+ 4000+ 8000+ 17500+ Bob Unglane (Unglaub) 450+ 625+ 1250+ 2500+ 7500+ Heinie Wagner 450+ 625+ 1250+ 2500+ 7500+ Bobby Wallace (HOF) 1500+ 2250+ 4000+ 8000+ 17500+ This issue is very tough, early pricing may be conservative The last PSA NM-MT 8 Collins sold for $8,347 in 2004

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02-20-2007, 07:32 AM

Posted By: barrysloateThat's a lot of updating. I just sold an Anderson square frame in SGC 30 (good) for 10.5K, so you already need to raise one price.

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02-20-2007, 07:35 AM

Posted By: markthe PSA web site, i guess thats why they put a + next to each value. The + means that price and way above. By the way, i wish you asked me to buy the Square frame!!! (<:

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02-20-2007, 07:35 AM

Posted By: MikeI love this set, and have long thought they were undervalued. If I listed my 5 or 6 favorite sets, I think they'd be on it. They are not my focus, but I do own the Cicotte, because it falls in the black sox world that I love. Some find them hideous, others find them beautiful. I'm in the second group. They should be graded on the same basis as all cards, but that border just kills the grade. a very strong reason to buy the card, not the grade. My Cicotte is a PSA 2, but I swear to you, it is an absolute stunner. But it's that border. No creases, no stains nothing. A couple small chips in the gold leaf.

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02-20-2007, 07:36 AM

Posted By: barrysloateIt's a little hard to guess who might be interested in a particular card, especially people I haven't yet met. <img src="/images/happy.gif" height=14 width=14>

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02-20-2007, 07:37 AM

Posted By: markpost a picture, or sell it to me, just kidding. I would love to see it.

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02-20-2007, 07:43 AM

Posted By: MikeI will try and scan it when I get time. You'll see what I mean. Pretty back on it. But alas, it's not for sale.

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02-20-2007, 09:07 AM

Posted By: scott brockelmanI believe they have graded 1 card, Ferris as a 9, why list each and every one when they don't exist? Also I believe I saw a new record price for a SGC VG 40 common (Rucker) on ebay yesterday $699.99 went to a collector whom has completed the set and needed a few upgrades, but WOW. $700 for a VG common? Scott

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02-20-2007, 10:43 AM

Posted By: Peter ThomasMastro had an 8 in their last auction which went for $5,000 +/-, which is 2x the new guide price. I bid on it, but could not see spending that much for an upgrade of a 7. Scott is right that PSA has only graded 1 9. It is a Ferris that Dave Forman sold to me in a group of 20 raw high grade Ramlys at the 95 National. The cards graded 7's, 8's and the one 9. Many years ago SGC graded cards from a cut sheet that have very high grades. I think that they now may regret grading them.

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02-20-2007, 10:51 AM

Posted By: scott brockelmanalso, they will no longer grade cards cut from that sheet, I tried a couple a year ago or so and they were rejected, EXCEPT that they missed the facts, they stated they were "press rolled and trimmed" kind of hard to press roll and embossed card and still have any embossing:) Scott

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02-20-2007, 02:35 PM

Posted By: Ed HansWhat would the multiplier be for a TTT back?

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02-20-2007, 07:18 PM

Posted By: PaulWould anyone in their right mind trade Burkett straight up fro Bresnahan or Wallace?????