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02-15-2007, 12:11 PM
Posted By: <b>S Gross</b><p>I was thinking of doing the "1911-38 / one year each" Zeenut collection. To make it a little more interesting (at least to me), I thought of doing it with just one team. I'm sure it's been done that way many thimes before. However, my favorite vintage PCL team is the Vernon Tigers (don't ask me why, I don't know, probably the "suburban" aspect of them). Anyway, I know the franchise moved quite a bit, and was wondering if someone could confirm this franchise lineage (also adding dates would be great):<br /><br />Vernon --> Venice --> Vernon --> Mission --> Hollywood<br /><br />I think I'm correct, and could do a little more research myself, but I'll take the easy net54 route.<br /><br /><br />Thanks for any info, greatly appreciated, Scott
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02-15-2007, 03:34 PM
Posted By: <b>Steve M.</b><p><br />Vernon 1911 and 1912 (one card in 1914; three cards in 1915), 1916, 1917, 1918, 1919, 1920, 1921, 1922, 1923, 1924, 1925<br /> <br />Venice 1913, 1914, 1915 (one card in 1916)<br /><br />Missions 1926, 1927, 1928, 1929, 1930, 1931, 1932, 1933, 1936, 1937<br /><br />Hollywood 1926, 1927, 1928, 1929, 1930, 1931, 1932, 1933, 1938
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02-15-2007, 05:47 PM
Posted By: <b>Mark Macrae</b><p>Vernon 1909-1912....................Venice 1913-1915.............Vernon 1915-1925.........Mission 1926-1937............Hollywood 1938-1957..............There were two different gestations of the Mission & Hollywood ballclubs. The Hollywood Stars which are linked to the Vernon Tigers would be featured in the 1938 Zeenut set. There are 7 players known from that subset. Earlier Zeenuts (1926-35) which feature Hollywood players are from a different franchise that shared the same name.....A detailed historical review of the Mission franchise will be published soon and on the market later this year. It contains a more detailed explanation of the franchise lineage.
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02-15-2007, 07:19 PM
Posted By: <b>Anthony</b><p>Mark-<br /> Where were the Missions based? Any idea where Venice's field actually was?
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02-15-2007, 08:01 PM
Posted By: <b>warshawlaw</b><p>The Missions were in the Mission District of San Francisco. They could not compete with the Seals and left. <br /><br />The Hollywood team was briefly called the Sheiks, after the Valentino role in the motion picture "The Sheik". Below are 1928 PCL Exhibits of a Missions player (note the V on his cap for Vernon or Venice) and a Sheik (note the misspelled team name). The Rhodes has a corner clipped where the coupon was removed. Not all 1928s have coupons; I'd consider one with the coupon intact to be especially rare. <br /><br /><img src="http://www.network54.com/Realm/tmp/1171512046.JPG"> <img src="http://www.network54.com/Realm/tmp/1171512057.JPG">
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02-15-2007, 09:11 PM
Posted By: <b>Andrew</b><p>I did the same with Portland (I live there.) Ebay is fun, but the Fritsch catalog was one way to knock a big chunk off the list. I only need three more years. With the somewhat recent spike in interest, Zs seem to be much tougher (and more expensive) to find. Good luck on your quest.<br><br>"Take your life in your own hands and what happens? A terrible thing: no one to blame." -- Erica Jong