Need Diamond Stars help

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Posted By: <b>Jim</b><p>I need some help. I just found a place where an "absentee card dealer" has some Diamond Stars for sale. Condition seems to be about g-vg on average. Prices range from $15-20 for a few, $30 on average for most with Kiki Cuyler($50) and Al Lopez ($250) being the best players. <br /><br />What should average prices be? What cards are more important in the set?<br /><br />HELP!!

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Posted By: <b>Mike</b><p>Sounds like a pretty fair price for the commons and the Cuyler, but I'd make sure that the Lopez was in really nice shape before I spent $250 on it. Just my 2 cents...<br />Mike

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Posted By: <b>Frank Wakefield</b><p>I agree... $15 to $20 sounds good... I'd like a few. Up towards $30 each I'd not want so many... and $250 sounds like too much. I'm frugal and live in the past when it come to pricing, so what you have may well be a good opportunity to get several all at once. Much better than buying them one at a time on eBay and spending enough on shipping to have bought half a dozen more cards.<br /><br />I like Diamond Stars... it is somewhat overlooked. Goudey dominates that time in baseball.<br /><br />Frank.

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Posted By: <b>Jim</b><p>The Shipp card was $15 and the Berger was $20. I think the Shipp was about G and the Berger maybe G-VG. The Cuyler was about G, give or take. I may go back and grab those 2 or 3. There were a few spots in the case open where it looks like someone beat me to the punch on some.

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Posted By: <b>Rick</b><p>too much for raw<br /><br />you could get psa 3 - 5 cards for around 20 bucks on ebay.

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Posted By: <b>Marty</b><p>#97-108 are very tough and would be a great buy at those pricesf any are there.

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Posted By: <b>Kenneth A. Cohen</b><p>If the Lopez card is the high number version #97, the price is more in line. If he's asking $250, I would assume it is. If however it is G/VG, seems pretty steep to me. Just my opinion.<br />Ken

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Posted By: <b>peter chao</b><p>Guys,<br /><br />Diamond Stars is missing the big-name stars. Instead, perhaps the biggest names are Lefty Grove and Jimmy Foxx, both Ruth and Gehrig missing.<br /><br />Peter

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Posted By: <b>Anonymous</b><p>I've been building this set in PSA 5 and am about 12% complete. On average, I pay $20-$25 for a common in PSA 5 (not including shipping).<br /><br />This is for commons that are numbered 97 or less. 97-108 are very hard to come by.<br /><br />In my humble opinion...<br /><br />I think $50 is too much for a Kuyler that isn't in at least EX condition. I also wouldn't spend that much on the Lopez. You can get that one on Ebay for $75 or less in PSA 5+ (most days). Unless of course it's #97. If so, $250 is a decent price for a strong VG card.<br /><br />The most important cards differ from collector to collector. It depends on if you're building the Master Set or just Basic set. This set has a few front variations, back colors and copyright dates, etc. Top three accoridng to Beckett value are #1 Lefty Grove, #103 Bill Dickey, and #54 Hank "Greenburg". Other key cards are Pie Traynor, Rogers Hornsby, Hank "Greenberg", and Jimmie Foxx to name a few. Also, like I said before, cards numbered 97-108 are tough to come by and are also considered high-value key cards.<br /><br />-Ray

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Posted By: <b>Jim</b><p>From the list of cards 97-108, I know that they have the following:<br /><br />97 Al Lopez (I believe it is this oen and not the other) <br />98 Schoolboy Rowe <br />102 Van Mungo <br />108 Walter Berger <br /><br />If these cards are G-VG, would $30 per card or so be out of line with the scarcity level?

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Posted By: <b>Frank Wakefield</b><p>Those would be good buys.<br /><br />Buy those tonight, or if not now, in the morning.<br />

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Posted By: <b>Jim</b><p>The antique store is closed now and will be on Monday too. Late Tuesday would be my best shot. <br /><br />Here's the complete list of what they had and the prices. I didnt get a close look at every card but they look to be all G-VG. From what I'm seeing on the net, I think that these prices are very high.<br /><br />8 Joe Vosmik $30 <br />10 Roy Mahaffey $60 <br />12 Dixie Walker $45 <br />19 Van Mungo $95 <br />22 Jimmy Wilson $20 <br />25 Walter Berger $20 <br />28 Al Lopez $250 <br />31 Kiki Cuyler $50 <br />33 Schoolboy Rowe $40 <br />40 Blondy Ryan $25 <br />42 Jimmy Dykes $30 <br />45 Jo Jo White $30 <br />46 Red Lucas $30 <br />47 Cliff Bolton $20 <br />53 Oscar Melillo $25 <br />57 Cy Blanton $20 <br />66 Ducky Medwick $55 <br />82 John Babich $50 <br />85 Julius Solters $35 and 40 (2 cards) <br />87 Steve O'Neill $45 <br />89 Joe Stripp $15 <br />91 Bucky Harris $75 <br />93 Alvin Crowder $75 <br />96 Lew Riggs $75 <br />97 Al Lopez <br />98 Schoolboy Rowe <br />102 Van Mungo <br />106 Red Lucas <br />108 Walter Berger <br /><br />The Mungo, Berger, Lopez, Lucas and Rowe are listed twice because I dont know which ones they were. <br />

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Posted By: <b>Rick McQuillan</b><p>Jim, you forgot to mention the name, address, and telephone number of the antique store!<br /><br />Rick <img src="/images/happy.gif" height=14 width=14>

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Posted By: <b>peter chao</b><p>Guys,<br /><br />Lopez belongs to the last tier of HOFs, I would not pay a premium for his cards. The Jimmy Foxx card is interesting because it has a picture of him in a catcher's pose.<br /><br />Peter

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Posted By: <b>Jim</b><p>Jim, you forgot to mention the name, address, and telephone number of the antique store!<br /><br />Rick <br /><br /><br />Oh my bad, its called............GOTCHA

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Posted By: <b>peter chao</b><p>Guys,<br /><br />How many versions are there of card #1 '34- '35 Diamond Stars Lefty Grove.<br /><br />Peter

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Posted By: <b>Ray</b><p>There are two Lefty Grove #1 backs. One is 1934 Green ink, the other is 1935 Green ink.

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Posted By: <b>Al C.risafulli</b><p>The high numbers from this set are VERY tough in any grade, and if you can get them at $30 each, get them. I got to 40% on this set (among the most beautiful prewar cards, IMO) and only had one high #. Eventually I sold off most of the cards, but really regret doing so because it's such a beautiful set. <br /><br />The low numbers are also a challenge.<br /><br />Lopez may be a third-tier HOFer, but the scarcity of the high # card makes this a pretty tough one.<br /><br />As others have said, mid-series commons can be had pretty cheap. But if you're interested in building a beautiful prewar set, the lack of a Ruth and Gehrig makes this set a very affordable option, even in mid and higher grades. <br /><br />-Al