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01-27-2007, 07:45 PM
Posted By: <b>fessgreg</b><p>especially for HOF'ers what do you think the premium in price is for a soverign back on a t206 compared to a regular back(ie sweet caporal). signed Greg

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01-27-2007, 08:05 PM
Posted By: <b>barrysloate</b><p>In my last auction I had numerous HOfers including Cobb, Young, and Matty, with Sovereign backs, and while all did well I didn't sense that much of a premium. I think collectors focussed more on the players, less on the Sovereigns. Next to Piedmont and Sweet Cap, it might be the easiest back, or close to it.

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01-27-2007, 09:03 PM
Posted By: <b>barry arnold</b><p>I think Barry S. is on target about the lack of much of a premium for <br />the Sovereign. With respect to the ordering.....<br />I do think that the Polar Bear is a bit more common than the Sovereign,<br />particularly the 460---also, a bit more common than the 350---but,probably about equal to the 150, with the 150 winning by a hair in the scarcity department.<br /><br />all the best,<br /><br />barry

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01-27-2007, 09:29 PM
Posted By: <b>Scot Reader</b><p><br />I would say that Sovereign typically commands a slight premium over Piedmont and Sweet Caporal; perhaps 10% for Sovereign 150 and 350 and 20% for Sovereign 460. I know that all other things being equal I would prefer any Sovereign back to a Piedmont (except Factory 42) and would be willing to pay a little more for it.

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01-27-2007, 10:51 PM
Posted By: <b>Dan Koochin</b><p>I've bought T206 lots many times in the past, usually a good <br />percentage of Sovereigns, from the US midwest a lot in 1980<br />would typically have at least 20% Sovereigns in a 100 card lot.<br />Usaully a good mix of 150s, 350s, 460 series. <br /><br />460 series are more difficult now, they carry a small premium<br />in value.<br /><br />Lots I purchased from the US midwest would also typically have<br />about 10% Polar Bear. My Cobb Bat Off was also a Polar Bear back.

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01-28-2007, 06:20 AM
Posted By: <b>barrysloate</b><p>Scot is probably right about the 10% premium, but it's hard to gauge in an auction. If I got $550 for a Mathewson because of the Sovereign, would I have only gotten $500 without it? I have no idea.

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01-28-2007, 07:47 AM
Posted By: <b>Ted Zanidakis</b><p>I'll add my "one penny" in on this, for whatever it's worth.<br /><br />Since I am trying to complete an all Sovereign set, I can tell you that these backs<br /> are going for more than a 10% premium....at least on ebay.<br /><br />I have been outbid on common T206's with Sovereign backs....across all 3 series....<br /> considerably above what I thought they were worth. I cannot explain this, however.<br /><br />TED Z

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01-28-2007, 07:52 AM
Posted By: <b>MVSNYC</b><p>i agree with Ted...<br /><br />i am trying to put together the best collection of different brand backs i can...and sovereign definitely commands more than a 10% premium...closer to 30%...<br /><br />honestly, the backs are fire, and to get any mid-high grade brand other than P or SC, will cost you.

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01-28-2007, 10:56 AM
Posted By: <b>Brian Weisner</b><p><br /> Hi Ted,<br /> It's your own fault for starting the Sovereign thread..... Have a great weekend. <br /><br /> Be well Brian<br /><br /><br />PS I haven't bid on any Sovereign's since you started your set, because I didn't want to cost you any cash.<br />

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01-28-2007, 02:02 PM
Posted By: <b>Darren</b><p>I've found all backs other than piedmont and sweet caporal get a bit of a premium on ebay...even polar bear.

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01-28-2007, 04:38 PM
Posted By: <b>Ted Zanidakis</b><p>I appreciate your abstaining from bidding on Sovereign's and I reciprocate by not bidding on<br /> Carolina Brights.<br /><br />However, there are some "dufusses", or is it "dufi", that have been jacking-up the bidding on <br />these cards to crazy prices....and I'm referring to Vg (or less) cards, I just don't understand<br /><br />Here is some statistical data on T206 Sovereign cards that I've recently noted.......<br /><br />Typical T206 Ebay listing will have, at any given week, only 2% of total that are Sovereign's.<br />Example....currently there are 811 - T206's listed and only 18 of them have Sovereign backs.<br /><br />Two dealer inventories....1st - 220 cards yielded only 5 Sovereign's....2nd - 400+ cards had<br />only 7 Sovereign's.<br /><br />A recent T206 collection of 84 cards that I acquired had only 2 Sovereign's.<br /><br />They are tougher than most think....especially the 460 Series cards.<br /><br />TED Z

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01-28-2007, 04:42 PM
Posted By: <b>barrysloate</b><p>I didn't have any trouble finding them <img src="/images/happy.gif" height=14 width=14>

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01-28-2007, 04:52 PM
Posted By: <b>Brian Weisner</b><p><br /> Hi Ted,<br /> You are my hero.... using the term "Dufi", it's one of my favorites, and I completely agree. I guess we have to many lurkers reading the board, but at least your Sovereign set will be more valuable. Be well Brian<br /><br /><br />PS Thanks for staying away from the CB's, but I can't get anyone else to...

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01-28-2007, 04:56 PM
Posted By: <b>Joann</b><p>Hahahhaha. Dufi. My new favorite word. I can't wait to try it out at work Monday. hee<br /><br />Joann

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01-28-2007, 05:01 PM
Posted By: <b>MVSNYC</b><p>sovereigns definitely command premiums (like most backs other than P & SC)...<br /><br />darren- you said "even polar bears"...i have purchased a few mid-high grade examples, and they get pretty expensive in 4,5,6's...