Mighty Nice price for a 20

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Posted By: <b>joe brennan</b><p><a href="http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=8818766918&rd=1&sspagename=STRK%3AMEWA%3AIT&rd=1" target="_new" rel="nofollow">http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=8818766918&rd=1&sspagename=STRK%3AMEWA%3AIT&rd=1</a><br /><br /><br />I had my snipe set at $105, figuring that might be a little too much to pay for a SGC 20, but it was a nice card. Price realized is a little bit higher. Is this a forecast of things to come for low grade HOFer's too? I know a Chesbro PSA 1 went for around $80 recently and the front was much nicer, but had some paper loss on the back. A board member recently sold a group of HOFer's and I don't think any went this high. Is this a case of maybe looking for a card thatmight be improved? <br><br>A scared man can't gamble and a jealous man can't work.

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Posted By: <b>Judge Dred (Fred)</b><p>I bet the under bidder just about crapped their pants when they saw they didn't win the auction. <br /><br />The seller has a great reputation for being a good seller so I'm sure that weighed in on the equation. <br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br />

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Posted By: <b>jay behrens</b><p>It could be a case of two people placing high bids they were comfortable with to win the auction thinking no one else would go anywhere near that high. It's happened before and it will happen again.<br />I've done it with a few cards I really wanted and luckly no one else wanted the card as bad as me, so I got them at a decent price anyway.<br /><br />Jayy<br><br>Growing old is not optional, growing up is.

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Posted By: <b>T206Collector</b><p>This is what they were thinking: "If I soak that card, I can remove the glue and paper and have an SGC 70." And, they just might be right...

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Posted By: <b>bigfish</b><p>I agree with you. They are going to try to remove that junk on the back. Not worth it in my opinion but that is what they are doing.

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Posted By: <b>Rob NYC</b><p>I am not advanced as many are on this board nor do I know enough to alter/improve a card's appearance. And I do not intend to improve on the card's condition, but it is nice to know its potential. To me it has great eye appeal as is and that is all that matters. Like many of you I am solely a collector. I saw what I wanted and went after it. If I was outbidded, so be it. Maybe I overpaid, but I don't see it that way. In the end, it's not the guide that has the final say. All of you have great collections and I never tire looking at all the stuff you guys show off. I don't have the resources or financial backing as many of you do, but someday I hope to build up a collection that is at least just a fraction as good as any of yours.

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Posted By: <b>Paul Stratton</b><p>Rob, <br /><br />No need to explain yourself. Everyone has paid what others would consider too much for something at some point. You got the card you wanted and you're happy with it and that's all that matters.<br /><br />Paul

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Posted By: <b>Rob NYC</b><p>I just wanted to let them know that the card is going to a smoke-free, good home. <img src="/images/happy.gif" height=14 width=14>

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Posted By: <b>Matt E</b><p>Baseball Cards and Rationalization go together.<br /><br />Some us just add an extra zero behind the overpayment.<br />It is something in our brain. Relax, join the club.<br /><br /><br />Like Jeff Goldblum said in The Big Chill.... I don't know anyone who could get through the day without two or three juicy rationalizations. They're more important than sex. <br /><br /><br /> src="<img src="http://www.network54.com/Realm/tmp/1149428146.JPG">"&gt;

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Posted By: <b>David Hornish</b><p>This is a general question and not specific to any single post or person.<br /><br />In my short time here I have noticed a bright line drawn between soaking/wetting a card to remove glue residue form the back and almost all other forms of alteration. I'm curious what you all think of this. Personally, it doesn't seem any better or worse to wet a card than to iron out a small wrinkle. I have not performed either of these operations and frankly, my collection needs a whole lot more help condition-wise than some ironing or back de-glazing but I have removed wax residue from newer card fronts using a paper towel and I think that fits in the same category as well. Taking a curl out of a card might also fit in here.<br /><br />So I guess the question is, if you are not bleaching, trimming, or erasing a pen mark, building up a bad corner or filling in some missing color, is it really an alteration? To me the wetting, minor ironing (i.e. without removing and building up a large crease)or wax removal all seem to be merely enhancing the aesthetics of a card as opposed to changing it artificially. It's almost like taking a card to the cleaners, like you would a dirty shirt.<br /><br />It's an interesting topic and one I've noticed while working my way back through the archived forum posts.

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Posted By: <b>fkw</b><p>To me, adding anything not original to the card or taking any part of the original card away, is altering.<br /><br />If you clean it up with something that is not permanent, to get it close to its original form (ie. simple eraser, soak w/water, clean surface w/water), I would not consider it altering. But it may affect the grade and should be noted (if known) especially in mid to high grade cards.