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01-15-2007, 05:31 AM
Posted By: <b>brock</b><p>Hi<br />I'm thinking of starting a new set. And im looking at the 1936 Goudey wide pen premiums(R314). And when i look them up im seeing things like type A and type 4. Can any body give me a little info about this set. And also i cant find a basic price for them.Thanks for any help.
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01-15-2007, 06:28 AM
Posted By: <b>dennis</b><p>here is the link from the old cardboard web site about this set i think it will answer your questions <a href="http://www.oldcardboard.com/r/r314/r314.asp?cardsetID=872" target="_new" rel="nofollow">http://www.oldcardboard.com/r/r314/r314.asp?cardsetID=872</a> here's a scan of the variations from the oc article mentioned on the bottom.<img src="http://i97.photobucket.com/albums/l239/dcc1/36goudey.jpg">
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01-15-2007, 07:16 AM
Posted By: <b>steve f</b><p>Wonder if the 'Made in USA' example in the ad above is the Canadian, as the Canadian R316's.
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01-15-2007, 11:10 AM
Posted By: <b>Paul</b><p>You should email Tim Newcomb. He is the expert on these issues. As the previous post indicates, there are actually several sets that all go by the name R314.<br /><br />The basic set is fairly common and includes a white border with the legend "Litho in USA" in the border. The second set comes in both a white border variety and a borderless variety. Neither of these varieties include the "Litho in USA" designation. The second set includes different players and different poses than the first set. The third set has a "creamy" tone and I believe was issued in Canada. Again, the players and poses are different. The fourth set is confusing and you should ask Tim about it. It features mostly Tigers and I believe Canadian minor leaguers.<br /><br />If you're thinking of completing a set, you should stick to the first variety. You could spend more than a lifetime trying to complete any of the others.
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01-15-2007, 11:13 AM
Posted By: <b>steve f</b><p>Nope, that article is correct. The Kashins labels are opposite.
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01-15-2007, 01:58 PM
Posted By: <b>fkw</b><p>Like Paul said, Tim Newcomb is the expert on all these postcard size 1930 premiums. He wrote a great 7 page article on them in the "Old Cardboard" issue #7 (spring 2006).<br /><br />The 5- R314 sets vary quite a lot in availability. For example, In the last year Ive only seen 3 auctions that contained a R314D card (and one was misidentified as a R314A). Making them easily the scarcest as far as availability on eBay, by far.<br /><br />Ive really only been looking into them seriously in the last year or so, but I have gotten a good picture of how rare some are.<br /><br />Here is a post reproduced below I posted a short time back.....<br /><br /><br />There are 5 sets in the R314, with 3 fairly small. <br /><br />R314A has 120 different cards in set, have "Litho USA" on bottom corner, very common.<br /><br />R314B-1 has 24 in the set, they are borderless, and a smaller thick cursive name, scarce.<br /><br />R314B-2 24 in set, same as above but has a border, scarce.<br /><br />R314C "Canadian Creamy" 25 in the set, has a yellowish creamy tone card stock with a light gloss, slightly scarce.<br /><br />R314D (V352) 47 in the set, slightly yellowish, no gloss, (8 Detroit players, rest are International Leaguers from Montreal and Toronto), very rare. <br /><br /><img src="http://members.aol.com/canofprimo/r314ab.jpg"><img src="http://members.aol.com/canofprimo/r314cd.jpg"><br />R314A, R314B-1, R314C, R314D