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01-13-2007, 04:06 AM
Posted By: <b>Dylan</b><p>Wow these bidders, if every one of them is not a shill, are really willing to spend hundreds of dollars on a card thats so rare that if it were real youd know it'd be going for tens of thousands. What do people think? That they can just hop on ebay and win the lotto buying baseball cards? Do people really follow through and pay on transactions like these? Its not the first and certainly not the last ive seen an obvious reprint sell for several hundreds on ebay. <br /><br /><a href="http://cgi.ebay.com/TY-COBB-RED-TY-COBB-BACK_W0QQitemZ140071587250QQihZ004QQcategoryZ86840 QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem" target="_new" rel="nofollow">http://cgi.ebay.com/TY-COBB-RED-TY-COBB-BACK_W0QQitemZ140071587250QQihZ004QQcategoryZ86840 QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem</a>

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01-13-2007, 04:39 AM
Posted By: <b>T E</b><p>I can't figure out how to report this obvious fraud. Should be reported asap.

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01-13-2007, 05:23 AM
Posted By: <b>steve f</b><p>counterfeit_card had high bid on this, but was evicted from the auction. <br /><br />

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01-13-2007, 05:36 AM
Posted By: <b>Joe D.</b><p>these bidders are showing up as 'bidder 1', 'bidder 2'<br /><br />I used to enjoy seeing the 'counterfeit card' type ebay ids on auctions of fake cards.<br /><br /><br /><br />eBay should shut the auction down. no returns, no paypal, no way to get your money back if it is a fake - and it is placed in a specific category. Seller doesn't know much about cards, but he put it in a specific category.<br /><br />

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01-13-2007, 05:58 AM
Posted By: <b>ErlandStevens</b><p>The seller says that he doesn't know much about cards, but his ID is bbcardsareme.

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01-13-2007, 06:46 AM
Posted By: <b>Robert {Bigb13}</b><p>Bidder number 2 is on a week or less so it looks like shilling to me. I think I will leave ebay alone for a while until they fix this BS.&nbsp;Rob

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01-13-2007, 06:54 AM
Posted By: <b>Mark Burke</b><p>and notice "bidder 2", at least during the past 30 days, has bid on this item 6 times and has bid only on this item. That lucky bidder will have one of the dozen or so of these cards in existence! I bet the seller has "Magie" somewhere in his inventory. We'll see that one next.

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01-13-2007, 09:54 AM
Posted By: <b>John H.</b><p>My "favorite" eBay scam is by a seller who has had umpteen sets of the 27 paper insert 1954 Topps cards from the first issue of Sports Illustrated slabbed. He cut the insert sheet into individual cards and sent them in to GAI, I believe it was. They came back with very high grades and he put the sets up for bid. This went on for many months and may still be going on. I used to see the listings when I was searching for Topps Ted Williams cards.<br /><br />This is all well and good except I'm pretty sure that these "cards" are from the reprint of the first SI issue that was available at retail book stores a few years ago, in a package with an SI coffee table book. I think the package cost about 30 bucks and this guy was sometimes getting $250-$300 for the card sets. An ignorant buyer wouldn't even know they were made of paper since there is no way to tell when they have been graded and sealed. I have the reprint magazine and other than possibly the paper quality there is nothing to distinguish it from the original.<br /><br />John

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01-13-2007, 03:29 PM
Posted By: <b>Anonymous</b><p>So was this a bad attempt at a shill? He ended up winning. Was he trying to boost the price even more or decided he should just win it because he got spooked.

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01-13-2007, 03:40 PM
Posted By: <b>Mark Burke</b><p>I actually contacted the seller and he professed ignorance about whether the card was real or fake. His response "I do not know - This card has everything a real one has". Well, I guess he's right. It has a front and a back with a picture of a baseball player. So, what's the difference?? Now that is one knowledgeable dealer.

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01-13-2007, 03:53 PM
Posted By: <b>Brett</b><p>I saw the same card on ebay last saturday or sunday. I looked the day after and it was ended early.... then a few days later its back on ebay. I thought that the back looked more realistic than the front. but a fake is a fake <img src="/images/happy.gif" height=14 width=14>

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01-13-2007, 04:11 PM
Posted By: <b>Denny</b><p>Leon brought this up on another thread!<br /><br /><br />Re: A new concept....Vintage Baseball Card Forum Auctions? January 12 2007, 3:57 PM <br /><br />bbcardsareme? So, Why doesn't he know much about cards? Whats the bb stand for, Big Balls!<br /><br />Denny Walsh<br /> <br />

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01-13-2007, 04:34 PM
Posted By: <b>dennis</b><p>i think it was shilled too! <a href="http://cgi.ebay.com/1933-Goudey-149-Babe-Ruth-Graded-5-5_W0QQitemZ320068913427QQihZ011QQcategoryZ31721QQr dZ1QQcmdZViewItem" target="_new" rel="nofollow">http://cgi.ebay.com/1933-Goudey-149-Babe-Ruth-Graded-5-5_W0QQitemZ320068913427QQihZ011QQcategoryZ31721QQr dZ1QQcmdZViewItem</a>

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01-15-2007, 10:19 AM
Posted By: <b>Jeff Prillaman</b><p>Got an email back from Ebay that appropriate action was taken on the Cobb auction.