Postcard help

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Posted By: <b>Dave</b><p>At the local cardshop here the owner today brought out a postcard of Babe Ruth. It looked quite similar to the postcard "manager" series from the 1920's? Kind of a crude looking dirty off tan colored with the picture in the center of Ruth. Was Ruth in this series? He also mentioned he had a Cobb, and I do believe Cobb was in the "manager" postcards. Is there another series similiar that would have both Cobb and Ruth?

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Posted By: <b>fkw</b><p>Yes there is a Ruth. The set is on page 32 in the 2007 SCD and Ruth books for $600 NRMT.<br /><br />There are actually 2 Cobbs. The one on the right is not cataloged (yet) and the Ruth I believe is like it.<br /><br /><img src="http://centuryoldcards.com/images/anonymouspcx2.jpeg">

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Posted By: <b>Dave</b><p>are they any record of auction sales for the ruth? he had told me a cobb recently sold for $2500...which I found hard to believe. he said he took them up to the chicago show and that Maestro and Rosen were both after him about the postcards.

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Posted By: <b>fkw</b><p>Actually both Cobbs are cataloged now in the 2007 SCD ($400 NRMT ea.).<br /><br />Mgr. Cobb on left sells for $250-$500 (Ive seen or owned about 6-8). There was a Ruth, Johnson, W.Robinson, Harris, etc. a couple years ago on eBay but I dont remember what the Ruth sold for. I have only seen one of the non-Mgr. Cobbs (the one I own), and it is smaller and slightly different with a uppercase lowercase caption, and the postcard back design is totally different. The cards listed in SCD are from 2 separate sets but grouped together as Anonymous Postcards.<br /><br /> $2500 is a crazy price, Ive owned about 4 of the Mgr. Cobbs, and have trouble getting a few hundred for them.

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Posted By: <b>Paul</b><p>So I guess these aren't really "manager" postcards at all????

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Posted By: <b>fkw</b><p>The taller ones are all Managers and say so on the front before the name or team.<br /><br />Ive seen or owned,<br />Ty Cobb<br />Walter Johnson<br />Wilber Robinson<br />Bucky Harris<br />John McGraw<br />And the checklist includes Bill McKechnie, but Ive never seen it.<br /><br />My thinking is the Cobb on the right (above and below) is going to be the same style as the Ruth and these will be the only 2 that are smaller and have the upper and lower case caption on front. These would also have a back that is a different style "Post Card" design. These 2 were maybe issued before the Mgr. cards, but no one knows for sure.<br /><br />I know for a fact I have seen the Ruth, but at the time I didnt own my Cobb so couldnt compare them, and didnt think too much about it beyond knowing it wasnt cataloged. <br /><br />Maybe Dave can take another look at it and see how the caption on front is styled "BABE RUTH" or "Babe Ruth".<br /><br />Here are the 2 backs.<br /><img src="http://members.aol.com/canofprimo/cobbpcx2b.jpg">

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Posted By: <b>Lyman</b><p>Frank, thanks for your posts. You are correct in assuming that the Ruth is printed in the style (upper-lower case type) as the Cobb variation. Below is an example:<br /><br /><img align=left hspace=10 height=300 src="http://www.oldcardboard.com/pc/managers/ruth.jpg"> Unfortunately, I do not have access to the Ruth card so do not know for sure the back design or the card dimensions.<br /><br />Could you please post the dimensions of the two Cobb variations. <br /><br />Thanks, Lyman

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Posted By: <b>Dave</b><p>The back of the Ruth I saw was exactly like the one Frank posted. Guessing on the dimension of it....maybe 4x6?

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Posted By: <b>fkw</b><p>The smaller one (Cobb/Ruth) is 3-3/16" by 4-15/16"<br /><br />The taller one (Mgr) is 3-3/16 by 5-1/2"

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Posted By: <b>Dave</b><p>I would have sworn the Ruth I saw would have been bigger than 3-3/16" by 4-15/16" but i'm sure your probably right<br />

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Posted By: <b>fkw</b><p>Normal modern "standard postcard size" is 3-1/2" by 5-1/2", so these are both a bit smaller, but thats not unusual for the early years.