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12-01-2006, 02:27 PM
Posted By: <b>Dave</b><p>With all the talk lately about the differant backs, just how rare are the blank backs? I see them now and then on ebay, but I've always thought these were cards that had a much higher chance of being fakes...no premiums for such either?

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12-01-2006, 02:46 PM
Posted By: <b>Trae R.</b><p>Dave they definitely carry a premium. 6-10x would be a safe assumption I believe.<br /><br /><a href="http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=160004595446" target="_new" rel="nofollow">http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=160004595446</a><br /><a href="http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=8829271784" target="_new" rel="nofollow">http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=8829271784</a><br /><br />I wish those listings had photos, but they don't. One sold in B/S/T last week for $300 I think... a G condition common.

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12-01-2006, 02:58 PM
Posted By: <b>Dave</b><p>So a blank back....ungraded....bigger risk that it could be fake or would most that doctor up a card not bother doing so with blank backs? Just seems they would be alot easier to forge...only having to worry about getting the front of a card right.

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12-01-2006, 03:09 PM
Posted By: <b>robert a</b><p>Blank backs on t206 are pretty darn rare. There are both blanked back cards that appear to be hand cut and also cards that appear to be factory cut.<br /><br />The SL blank back that Trae posted a link to is more uncommon than a non SL t206.<br /><br />I don't think they have a higher chance of being fake. You just have to look for the same signs of a reprint.<br /><br />That being said, I've never seen a t206 reprint with a blank back.<br /><br /><br />Rob

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12-01-2006, 03:09 PM
Posted By: <b>Trae R.</b><p>Thank you, Robert. I agree.

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12-01-2006, 03:23 PM
Posted By: <b>robert a</b><p>How's it going Trae?<br /><br />This one actually has a diamond cut. Most likely part of a test run or some kind of printer's scrap. If I was a printer, I probably would've taken a few home.<br /><br />I would guess that there were printer's scrap sheets that might've been cut later (out of the factory) and scrap that went a step further and were factory cut like this one.<br /><br /><br /><img src="http://photos.imageevent.com/caramelcard/t206backchecklist/websize/chance.jpg">

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12-01-2006, 05:09 PM
Posted By: <b>Dave</b><p>May be a stupid question..but a card advertised as a blank back, with obvious removal spots from an album....what would the chances be of totally taking off a thin enough layer of the back of a card and it being passed as a blank back?

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12-01-2006, 05:42 PM
Posted By: <b>robert a</b><p>It can be done Dave. I would stay away from a card like that.<br /><br />That's how people reback t206 as well.<br /><br />Rob

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12-02-2006, 07:18 AM
Posted By: <b>MVSNYC</b><p>i saw that blank back on eBay a few days ago, not the prettiest, but it looks authentic, i might chase it. <br /><br />blank backs are pretty tuff, you hardly see them.<br /><br />MS

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12-02-2006, 07:25 AM
Posted By: <b>Dave</b><p>Yes....thats the one I'm talking about....although it may be worth having...I don't think you'll have to worry about me on that card.

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12-02-2006, 07:52 AM
Posted By: <b>MVSNYC</b><p>wish it didn't have the tape marks, but oh well...it's pretty tuff to come across them...we'll see how it goes.

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12-02-2006, 08:49 AM
Posted By: <b>Despres Louis</b><p>Scan of the Lipe mentioned above.<br /><br /><img src="http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v228/robertpollard/t206lipeblankback.jpg">

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12-02-2006, 11:23 AM
Posted By: <b>Hal Lewis</b><p><img src="http://www.network54.com/Realm/tmp/1165000967.JPG"> <br /><br />Funny... they must have had a problem with the yellow portrait Chance cards.<br /><br />Here is ANOTHER blank backed one!

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12-02-2006, 03:27 PM
Posted By: <b>robert</b><p>Louis,<br /><br />You are the T206 back master! <br /><br /><br />Hal,<br /><br />Isn't the yellow chance one of Scot Reader's "superprints?" <br /><br />They're as common as 1990 Bowman.<br /><br />Rob<br /><br /><br />

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12-02-2006, 04:42 PM
Posted By: <b>Scot Reader</b><p>Robert,<br />Not quite as common as 1990 Bowman. I would say more 1987 Topps.<br />Scot

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12-02-2006, 06:40 PM
Posted By: <b>MVSNYC</b><p>i was one of the underbidders on the Lipe...darn.